EPTA. Practice (including hours, exercise, eating habits, ect.)
B. Approach the game
It would be much appreciated! Thank you!
How do Korean Starcraft Pros Approach the Game?
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Silky
United States260 Posts
A. Practice (including hours, exercise, eating habits, ect.) B. Approach the game It would be much appreciated! Thank you! | ||
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Br3ezy
United States720 Posts
Why do you say "us foreigners" if your TL country says Korea (South)? A. Korean practice houses and foreign practice houses are basically the same thing. You talk about starcraft a lot more then an environment where you are alone or not surrounded against higher level players and so hence they have a "support group". B. I think they look at the game through a LCD monitor, im not sure on that one so DONT quote me | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
Second, it changes between teams. Khan's style, or more likely January's style, is pretty lax. Based on the players conglomerating their experience constantly so that they don't play as many rote games. SKT1's is something of a toss up between serious player counter analysis and vast amounts of gaming. More even than the other teams. Or even ACE, the team that just tries to surprise the other team as much a humanly possible. But, to be honest, how exactly they practice is much of a trade secret. PLUS, BW players could have SERIOUSLY varied styles at the higher levels, much more varied than we see in SC2 right now. Just about all of the teams had a minimum exercise requirement. Obviously there were required training hours, but generally it was up to the player exactly HOW much they practiced... just as it is basically everywhere. I think you should try reposting this with better guideline adherence in the BW forum. EDIT: LCD? What do you think teams were, rich? They used low end stuff to the END. CRT ftw. Plus, LCD hurts your eyes quicker according to Korean sensibilities. Kinda like how there were no Pro snow maps in BW, the white on the screen just hurt your eyes too quickly. | ||
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Silky
United States260 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
8-10 hours a day is a solid practice regiment. This includes Ladder,customs and reviewing replays. Exercise every morning. Stretch every few hours. Eating habits are VERY IMPORTANT! I recommend eating all organic foods if possible. No preservatives. No fast food or junk food. Water shall be your beverage. Drink it freely. No soda. No caffeine etc. None of that garbage. Salad should be the base of your main course. Eat chicken. Avoid red meats, eat them sparingly. Almonds, carrots, fruits all make great snacks. Here is a sample of my eating regiment: Breakfast- 1-2 eggwhites scrambled on wheat bread(good for your heart),2-3 slices of turkey bacon(yes its processed but its much better for you than regular bacon), Glass of OJ and a piece of fruit. A granny smith apple will wake you up better than one cup of coffee. A couple hours later I eat a snack. Its usually a yogurt. Make sure your yogurt contains probiotics. Avoid eating yogurt or any foods that contain Aspertame(that shit causes cancer). Then lunch. Turkey sammitch! No condoments, except spicy brown mustard(its completely natural). Only 1 slice of cheese. A couple hours later its snack time again. Carrots and almonds. Dinner: Salad is always the main dish. Do not use store bought dressing, its all garbage and very unhealthy. There are a few organic types that are good for you. I recommend getting dressign recipes online. Add some chicken to the salad if you would like(hell i usually do!). There are plenty of healthy side dishes out there. a couple hours later i have another snack. Bananas fruit vegies w/e. Fruits/vegs/nuts should always be your preferred choice for snacks. Never consume food 2 hours before bed. Always drink 2 cups of water within 30 minutes of waking up. Drink 2 cups before sleep and always consume it throughout the day. This is just an example of a very healthy eating lifestyle. You can still eat out, but very very sparingly, maybe once or twice a month. Remember, stay away from food with additives/preservatives. Avoid processed foods, or eat them minimally. I believe turkey bacon is the only processed food i eat now. Fish is great for you. Approach to the game. Find out why you won. Find out why you lost. Look at your replays. Look at how smooth your macro is. How is your multitasking? How is your money level. Is your mineral/gas income kept low at a good ratio? Map awareness, it changes games. Learn all the builds, learn to recognize them. Sometimes you can hard counter certain openings with something qwuirky and win right off the bat every time. Sometimes the best you can do is have an optimal response. Whatever you do, DO NOT PAY FOR COACHING. Its a rip off and not worth the time. You are better off learning through experience and repetition. Hope this helped! You will feel much better after changing your eating habits within 2 weeks. Nourish your body O also, breath clean air. No smoking  . Alcohol consumption should be a minimum. A glass of wine every night is good for you though.One last side note: All those unhealthy foods contain so many chemicals that affect your body. Your body becomes addicted to them. You end up going through withdrawl when you stop consuming them. Once you have switched over to a healthy eating lifestyle, your true hunger comes back. You can eat as much as you want, providing its all healthy stuff such as the stuff i've listed. Its sounds crazy but its true. Cheers! | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
its cultural. you simply work harder in an office in south korea and asia than that of US or europe. | ||
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Br3ezy
United States720 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:02 ThePlayer33 wrote: they work hard and try win. foreigners are all lazy on the other hand. unless youre a genius(stephano) its cultural. you simply work harder in an office in south korea and asia than that of US or europe. So does that make Bill Gates and Warren Buffet not american? Because they are good at what they do? It is not a cultural scenario that does this, it is your stereotypical mind explaining your biased thoughts on how americans are lower-effecient workers than that of asia or the US. How can you even compare the two accurately? Hell, even the currency isn't the same. What makes you a hard worker is what you put in your environment and other things that are already a part of your life, such as if you had a hard working parent and you saw how hard they worked and it rubbed off on you, that is a positive stimulus in your environment. Foreigners are not lazy on the other hand either. People play more on EU ladder then on KR. Empire.Kas plays so many ladder games a day he always has easily 1k + ladder games. Does this make him lazier and worse then koreans? Does this make him lazier and worse then a fucking diamond korean random player? Foreigners also don't like to win either? Just because koreans try and beat foreigners means that foreigners don't try and therefore lose to koreans and are inferior to them? K. | ||
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295995 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339924 BW B-Teamers just played 12 hours a day, usually just playing standard build to get good mechanics. About food, they just eat the meals that the maid cooks for them in the house, i don't know if teams pay special attention to what kind of food is best for the players. Some players exercise, at offseason the teams usually play soccer etc. Edit:// Breezy, Kas is an exception, most foreigner pros don't practice a lot, some of them still go to school too. | ||
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Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
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Natespank
Canada449 Posts
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LOcDowN
United States1014 Posts
On May 27 2012 09:39 Silky wrote: We all know that the korean have dominated the scene since back in the Starcraft 1 days. For some reason they absolutely dominate the entire game compared to foreigners which is shown by the difficulty foreigners have playing against them in tournaments (like GSL), the ladder, and in many other ways. People explain that it is because they play countless more games than us foreigners, but what foreigner pros who have been in Korea say that this is true, but it is also how they approach the game. I have wondered what this means and how they really do approach the game. I can not figure it out what-so-ever. Can anyone explain to me how the Koreans: A. Practice (including hours, exercise, eating habits, ect.) B. Approach the game It would be much appreciated! Thank you! You are correct in your statement of "how they approach the game". You may be partially correct when you say they practice more than foreigners, and that they put in more physical time than foreigners. But eventually it is "how they approach the game" that is best. Inside Korea we have team houses, we have a coaching staff and specific coach for a specific race (Terran coach, Zerg coach, and Protoss coach). In the team house, you share knowledge with each other and learn the correct mentality to win in tournament play. The level of play is superior in Korea on a general level and extremely strong in team house environment so you will get the best practice quality in comparison to outside of Korea. The strategy is up-to-date and all meta-game shift happens in Korea first before the entire world learn and copy. Korea takes Starcraft with a professional approach (an actual job career) that focus on engineering build orders (reverse engineering to get specific timings down) and rinse-and-repeat superior mechanics to dominate. The foreign scene can do the same but we would have to match the professional approach to their quality standard. I don't think anyone is willing to do this since no one really view Starcraft as a true sport and not enough money generation will make it worth it to engineer a system that matches or is superior to Korea. Until it is a profitable system (Starcraft) you won't see anyone jumping on and engineer build orders professionally out of Korea like you see in Korea. It is just not worth the time, people would rather just copy what Korea is doing for now and let them lead the way in innovations of build orders as new maps are release. | ||
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Silky
United States260 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:38 Silky wrote: Can anyone explain how they specifically "refine" their builds? getting movement and placement down to an exact science | ||
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nyaru267
United States117 Posts
B.) Play the game | ||
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
E.g. A terran loses a TvZ, the Korean terran will say to himself to improve his marinesplit and macro better, while a foreigner would look at how he can improve his build to have specific units at specific timings and refine his expo timings. I'm not sure how true this really is, all broad generalizations like this tend to be shaky. One thing's for sure, Koreans work much harder and live in a very concentrated area where they all have close contact with their highest level peers. Their well established team/coaching infrastructure combined with this concentrated effort is the real reason why they excel at this game. | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
The number one complaint that foreigner tend to have about Korean Team house is the strict rigid practice schedule.+ Show Spoiler + Or at least that's what Idra said. Not to mention that Ladder in Korea is much stronger as a result of a more dedicated SC2 community. Not that it is bigger the NA or EU, just more dedicated to the game. | ||
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:02 ThePlayer33 wrote: they work hard and try win. foreigners are all lazy on the other hand. unless youre a genius(stephano) its cultural. you simply work harder in an office in south korea and asia than that of US or europe. This post makes me facepalm. You're attaching a huge stigma to an entire group of people based on video game results, when in reality there are as many hard working American/foreigners as there are Koreans. Look at it from a perspective outside of video games before you try to attribute it to culture. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8606 Posts
On May 27 2012 12:43 RavenLoud wrote: One stereotypical thing I hear a lot is that Koreans tend to view the game in terms of how they can mechanically improve, while foreigners like to look at the overall structure of the game. E.g. A terran loses a TvZ, the Korean terran will say to himself to improve his marinesplit and macro better, while a foreigner would look at how he can improve his build to have specific units at specific timings and refine his expo timings. I'm not sure how true this really is, all broad generalizations like this tend to be shaky. One thing's for sure, Koreans work much harder and live in a very concentrated area where they all have close contact with their highest level peers. Their well established team/coaching infrastructure combined with this concentrated effort is the real reason why they excel at this game. if you were talking about a korean a-teamer compared to a foreigner then that might be true, since the korean pro would have the timings known like the back of his hand by then but an average korean gamer and a foreigner would probs think the same way about wanting to work on mechanics and timings together but what ive noticed with a lot of my friends and myself is that foreigners arent as competitive as koreans. when i lived in australia most of my non korean friends had that approach where if they lose they just accept it and move on. now, i live in korea (and myself being korean), i notice that if my friends and i lose we get pissed and will ask for rematches until they win, whether it takes another 100 games to achieve it doesnt matter to them i think its the competitive mentality that differentiates koreans vs foreigners | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:09 Br3ezy wrote: So does that make Bill Gates and Warren Buffet not american? Because they are good at what they do? It is not a cultural scenario that does this, it is your stereotypical mind explaining your biased thoughts on how americans are lower-effecient workers than that of asia or the US. How can you even compare the two accurately? Hell, even the currency isn't the same. What makes you a hard worker is what you put in your environment and other things that are already a part of your life, such as if you had a hard working parent and you saw how hard they worked and it rubbed off on you, that is a positive stimulus in your environment. Foreigners are not lazy on the other hand either. People play more on EU ladder then on KR. Empire.Kas plays so many ladder games a day he always has easily 1k + ladder games. Does this make him lazier and worse then koreans? Does this make him lazier and worse then a fucking diamond korean random player? Foreigners also don't like to win either? Just because koreans try and beat foreigners means that foreigners don't try and therefore lose to koreans and are inferior to them? K. Gates and Buffett aren't exactly your avg Americans, just like MVP and Nestea aren't your avg Koreans. Koreans can be just as lazy as foreigners, but the ones that do start working are also surrounded by a slightly more work-/practice-focused environment. Probably comes from a cultural/religious influence, really - the whole Confucian/Buddhist "working is most of it" mindset that's been ingrained for so long versus the more vaguely-set Abrahamic religions that have mainly settled in the Western Hemisphere. Again, a more complicated handwave to explain the "hardworking Koreans" stereotype, but one that does have some weight in terms of generalizations. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On May 27 2012 12:55 Holytornados wrote: This post makes me facepalm. You're attaching a huge stigma to an entire group of people based on video game results, when in reality there are as many hard working American/foreigners as there are Koreans. Look at it from a perspective outside of video games before you try to attribute it to culture. But where I live it is believed that Korea has a strong hardworking workforce in general... So he is applying that to the game because of the environment... | ||
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d00fuz
Malaysia129 Posts
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
On May 27 2012 12:55 Holytornados wrote: This post makes me facepalm. You're attaching a huge stigma to an entire group of people based on video game results, when in reality there are as many hard working American/foreigners as there are Koreans. Look at it from a perspective outside of video games before you try to attribute it to culture. His comment is certainly poorly worded, but the culture definitively play a role in it. Extreme competitiveness and a glorification of hard work is sort of imposed on everyone in Asia, while the same attitude is somewhat less socially encouraged in NA. | ||
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:02 ThePlayer33 wrote: they work hard and try win. foreigners are all lazy on the other hand. unless youre a genius(stephano) its cultural. you simply work harder in an office in south korea and asia than that of US or europe. koreans tend to dedicate their life to programing too easily and while there are many more good players than in other countrys there are even more who end up uneducated with no carrer in sc2 leeching of the state/their parents ? see what i did there ? | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On May 27 2012 12:43 RavenLoud wrote: One stereotypical thing I hear a lot is that Koreans tend to view the game in terms of how they can mechanically improve, while foreigners like to look at the overall structure of the game. E.g. A terran loses a TvZ, the Korean terran will say to himself to improve his marinesplit and macro better, while a foreigner would look at how he can improve his build to have specific units at specific timings and refine his expo timings. I'm not sure how true this really is, all broad generalizations like this tend to be shaky. One thing's for sure, Koreans work much harder and live in a very concentrated area where they all have close contact with their highest level peers. Their well established team/coaching infrastructure combined with this concentrated effort is the real reason why they excel at this game. That's a false dichotomy. Mechanically improving includes figuring out how to improve builds to hit timings, because that's a product of improving your macro. The way Korean players improve is through specific refinement that most foreigners don't look to do. The way your buildings are placed in a simcity, the way your rally points are set up, the positioning of your units in defense - all of these are nailed down to a precise and exact science, whereas foreigners just sort of do it and hope for the best. | ||
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Gojira621
United States374 Posts
IMO, within korean culture, it's more acceptable for kids to stay with their parents longer than most other places, thus if a teen wants to pursue pro gaming, they will likely have a fall back plan or at least a place to live. I feel like the gaming houses are a huge plus as opposed to a lot of pro players who are kind of just stuck practicing on their own unless they live in a team house as well. It is NOT CULTURAL OR BASED ON THEIR NATIONALITY. There are plenty of non korean players who practice and work at this game just as hard as the koreans do, and results have shown it. HuK, Stephano, ThorZaiN, Jinro for a time, IdrA sometimes, and others. What you put in is generally what you get. | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:09 Br3ezy wrote: So does that make Bill Gates and Warren Buffet not american? Because they are good at what they do? It is not a cultural scenario that does this, it is your stereotypical mind explaining your biased thoughts on how americans are lower-effecient workers than that of asia or the US. How can you even compare the two accurately? Hell, even the currency isn't the same. What makes you a hard worker is what you put in your environment and other things that are already a part of your life, such as if you had a hard working parent and you saw how hard they worked and it rubbed off on you, that is a positive stimulus in your environment. Foreigners are not lazy on the other hand either. People play more on EU ladder then on KR. Empire.Kas plays so many ladder games a day he always has easily 1k + ladder games. Does this make him lazier and worse then koreans? Does this make him lazier and worse then a fucking diamond korean random player? Foreigners also don't like to win either? Just because koreans try and beat foreigners means that foreigners don't try and therefore lose to koreans and are inferior to them? K. On May 27 2012 12:55 Holytornados wrote: This post makes me facepalm. You're attaching a huge stigma to an entire group of people based on video game results, when in reality there are as many hard working American/foreigners as there are Koreans. Look at it from a perspective outside of video games before you try to attribute it to culture. haha the shitstorm, both of you are from US, sorry you guys are biased. sorry but it's true, and i am only generalising, ofc there are hard workers around the (lazy parts of the) world. | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
I highly recommend reading this blog by qxc http://www.complexitygaming.com/forums/blog.php?b=1981 It covers practice myths, and how some of it really works. | ||
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Niteblade_
Canada292 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:09 Br3ezy wrote: So does that make Bill Gates and Warren Buffet not american? Because they are good at what they do? It is not a cultural scenario that does this, it is your stereotypical mind explaining your biased thoughts on how americans are lower-effecient workers than that of asia or the US. How can you even compare the two accurately? Hell, even the currency isn't the same. What makes you a hard worker is what you put in your environment and other things that are already a part of your life, such as if you had a hard working parent and you saw how hard they worked and it rubbed off on you, that is a positive stimulus in your environment. Foreigners are not lazy on the other hand either. People play more on EU ladder then on KR. Empire.Kas plays so many ladder games a day he always has easily 1k + ladder games. Does this make him lazier and worse then koreans? Does this make him lazier and worse then a fucking diamond korean random player? Foreigners also don't like to win either? Just because koreans try and beat foreigners means that foreigners don't try and therefore lose to koreans and are inferior to them? K. I see that other people have already quoted and replied, but i just wanted to offer my 2 cents.... Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are abstract individuals from the norm, much like a US president is different from your average US citizen. Culturally, Koreans have a more structured society that leads to a greater skill in starcraft (greater emphasis on analysis and school habits for working and such, afaik) than america does. It is easy for anyone to see, that american culture (IMO) is lazy overall with regards to work ethics.... just look at how hard ANY immegrant works once they enter the country (legally or illegally) compared to your avg. american. (this is coming from a canadian btw, where i see the difference in our society as well). Future generations of north america are getting lazier, because technology allows them to do so and just because we don't have to fight as much. Sure its hard to move up the soc-economic ladder, but basic needs are easily attainable for most of us. That is what we lost when we moved from a devoloping country to a devlolped country. Not that this is a bad thing, but you can see how society is degrading because of it. Sure there will always be the few who are ahead of the pack (bill gates to Stephano if you will), but as a whole, they will be outnumbered (Korean GSL code S roster vs the 3(?) foreigners who will be in it next season). Its just the way our different societies function. Much like asia as a stereo type, contains lots of techno rats, compared to the americas | ||
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Niteblade_
Canada292 Posts
On May 27 2012 14:34 ThePlayer33 wrote: haha the shitstorm, both of you are from US, sorry you guys are biased. sorry but it's true, and i am only generalising, ofc there are hard workers around the (lazy parts of the) world. | ||
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oxxo
988 Posts
Koreans treat BW/SC2/LoL as their job. Many foreigners are pretty unprofessional and can best be described as 'hey I can make some money playing video games... sweet!' Koreans have gaming houses where they can easily practice and discuss. They also have structure. Foreigners don't have the infrastructure to train as effectively and typically adhere to 'gamer structure' (junk food + terrible sleeping/exercise habits). | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On May 27 2012 14:28 Gyro_SC2 wrote: train your APM to the maximun. Analyse your replays and try to understand why your APM go down. Can't tell if you're serious or not... sadly | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
1. Grind ladder games like Fish 2. Try to reach the equivalent of A+ iccup level in Fish 3. Register to "Courage tournament" (an amateur tournament where players are all around A/A+ level) 4. Win the tournament and get your progaming license 5. Get drafted to the B-team (benchwarming team) of a pro-team 6. Grind games 10-12 hours while cleaning your teamate's toilets+underwears 7. Get a good win ratio in in-house ranking games if you want to play team leagues 8. Otherwise, try to qualify for individual leagues Interesting facts -The best achievement by a foreigner in Courage is 2nd place (by Nony) -The best achievement IdrA had in the OSL qualifiers was getting to the 2nd round of the qualifiers (he never got past the 1st round of the qualifiers in all of his previous tries) -DongRaeGu, the Zerg SC2 god, had a 3-33 record in the in-house ranking games in the CJ B-team So yeah, although not pleasant, that's how SC2 celebrities were in Broodwar, The path of being a SC1 progamer is pretty brutal, and those who manage to play televised games are already hardcore. SC1 practice regiments are inhumane by SC2 standards, but they give us good games. (Kind of like gladiators lol). There's a huge difference between progamers and amateurs in BW because you actually have to earn a license to be called progamer by winning a tough amateur tournament. BW pros are like the Ivy Leaguers / special forces of e-sports, they're famous not because they're great personalities, but because they have gone through tough obstacles (the list I mentioned above) that no one has ever gone through. They are the best of the best | ||
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
On May 27 2012 15:38 ppshchik wrote: How to be a Korean Pro in SC1 1. Grind ladder games like Fish 2. Try to reach the equivalent of A+ iccup level in Fish 3. Register to "Courage tournament" (an amateur tournament where players are all around A/A+ level) 4. Win the tournament and get your progaming license 5. Get drafted to the B-team (benchwarming team) of a pro-team 6. Grind games 10-12 hours while cleaning your teamate's toilets+underwears 7. Get a good win ratio in in-house ranking games if you want to play team leagues 8. Otherwise, try to qualify for individual leagues Interesting facts -The best achievement by a foreigner in Courage is 2nd place (by Nony) -The best achievement IdrA had in the OSL qualifiers was getting to the 2nd round of the qualifiers (he never got past the 1st round of the qualifiers in all of his previous tries) -DongRaeGu, the Zerg SC2 god, had a 3-33 record in the in-house ranking games in the CJ B-team So yeah, although not pleasant, that's how SC2 celebrities were in Broodwar, The path of being a SC1 progamer is pretty brutal, and those who manage to play televised games are already hardcore. SC1 practice regiments are inhumane by SC2 standards, but they give us good games. (Kind of like gladiators lol). There's a huge difference between progamers and amateurs in BW because you actually have to earn a license to be called progamer by winning a tough amateur tournament. BW pros are like the Ivy Leaguers / special forces of e-sports, they're famous not because they're great personalities, but because they have gone through tough obstacles (the list I mentioned above) that no one has ever gone through. They are the best of the best In Korea you forgot that there were/are also amateur houses, where the best players in the house could have a trial with a pro-team to become a practice partner or if you do really well a b-teamer. Also didn't Assem or somebody win Courage? Also teams have some licences to give out in a year, IdrA for example got one in eStro. | ||
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Von
United States363 Posts
On May 27 2012 10:00 ReachTheSky wrote: Eating habits are VERY IMPORTANT! I recommend eating all organic foods if possible. No preservatives. No fast food or junk food. Water shall be your beverage. Drink it freely. No soda. No caffeine etc. None of that garbage. Salad should be the base of your main course. Eat chicken. Avoid red meats, eat them sparingly. Almonds, carrots, fruits all make great snacks. Here is a sample of my eating regiment: Breakfast- 1-2 eggwhites scrambled on wheat bread(good for your heart),2-3 slices of turkey bacon(yes its processed but its much better for you than regular bacon), Glass of OJ and a piece of fruit. A granny smith apple will wake you up better than one cup of coffee. A couple hours later I eat a snack. Its usually a yogurt. Make sure your yogurt contains probiotics. Avoid eating yogurt or any foods that contain Aspertame(that shit causes cancer). Then lunch. Turkey sammitch! No condoments, except spicy brown mustard(its completely natural). Only 1 slice of cheese. A couple hours later its snack time again. Carrots and almonds. Dinner: Salad is always the main dish. Do not use store bought dressing, its all garbage and very unhealthy. There are a few organic types that are good for you. I recommend getting dressign recipes online. Add some chicken to the salad if you would like(hell i usually do!). There are plenty of healthy side dishes out there. a couple hours later i have another snack. Bananas fruit vegies w/e. Fruits/vegs/nuts should always be your preferred choice for snacks. Never consume food 2 hours before bed. Always drink 2 cups of water within 30 minutes of waking up. Drink 2 cups before sleep and always consume it throughout the day. This is just an example of a very healthy eating lifestyle. You can still eat out, but very very sparingly, maybe once or twice a month. Remember, stay away from food with additives/preservatives. Avoid processed foods, or eat them minimally. I believe turkey bacon is the only processed food i eat now. Fish is great for you. Dude I have no idea about your Starcraft coaching either way ... ... but if we ever start up a practice house, you are a shoe-in for head chef  That is all spot on right there. | ||
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Von
United States363 Posts
On May 27 2012 13:07 ymir233 wrote:... a cultural/religious influence, really - the whole Confucian/Buddhist "working is most of it" mindset that's been ingrained for so long versus the more vaguely-set Abrahamic religions that have mainly settled in the Western Hemisphere. Again, a more complicated handwave to explain the "hardworking Koreans" stereotype, but one that does have some weight in terms of generalizations. ie .... as far as I know, none of my ancestors FELL ON A SWORD when they lost face, lost a job, or lost a game. Its just not in our DNA lol. | ||
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naastyOne
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On May 27 2012 10:02 ThePlayer33 wrote: they work hard and try win. foreigners are all lazy on the other hand. unless youre a genius(stephano) its cultural. you simply work harder in an office in south korea and asia than that of US or europe. Now, explain why Korea sdoesn`t dominate anything else, save for esports. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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Garmer
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On May 27 2012 21:02 naastyOne wrote: Now, explain why Korea sdoesn`t dominate anything else, save for esports. ofc they dominate, look at kpop | ||
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Black17
France435 Posts
nice 1 :D | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
They managed to invent another form of cancer, how dominating. :c | ||
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Garth
United States353 Posts
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Natespank
Canada449 Posts
I especially recommend the blog qxc links to within the post. | ||
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Namkung
Canada151 Posts
Um I'm sorry but Korea is a pretty advanced country and a very impressive one given where they were just few decades ago. They are one of the exceptions that managed to develop at an astonishing rate. Really need not look further than SAMSUNG / LG. Are you telling me they are not dominating monitors / tv / phone market? They are second to none when it comes to their technology with screens. Also their car companies. Kia or Hyundai is no Honda or Toyota but they are getting a lot better and actually are considered pretty good today. How many countries actually can make cars? Not that many. People may also not know but South Korea is a leader in making ships (cargo ships to be specific) as well. | ||
svefnleysi
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On May 27 2012 12:55 Holytornados wrote: This post makes me facepalm. You're attaching a huge stigma to an entire group of people based on video game results, when in reality there are as many hard working American/foreigners as there are Koreans. Look at it from a perspective outside of video games before you try to attribute it to culture. Koreans work some of the longest hours of any group of people. The practice of working mass mass hours is completely ingrained in their culture. Schoolchildren go to school, and then most go to private evening classes and then they do homework. In the adult workplace there is a lot of peer pressure to work long hours too. Of course there are lazy Koreans and hardworking Americans, but the average American works less hard than the average Korean. Anyway this question gets asked all the time, there are loads of threads about the exact same thing. | ||
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
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