EPTDo yourself a favour and don't read the comments on Bnet....ugh.
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Do yourself a favour and don't read the comments on Bnet....ugh. | ||
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Tsunami49
United Kingdom46 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:32 FeiLing wrote: What were the changes they've tested on bunkers but have been revoked? It was a joke... | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:29 Blazinghand wrote: Terrans have historically had the most success at the professional level, and are generally regarded as the strongest race + Show Spoiler [GSL 2012 S2] + If you don't count the Ro4 results from this most recent GSL Overall, Blizzard made some relatively mild buffs to the non-terran races, and that's okay. These are huge buffs, it changes terrans early game entirely. The three most common openings TvZ were reactor hellion, 2 rax or reaper of some sort. This queen buff just completely denies all of these. Sure, it's not as bad as the 50 energy queen, but it's still pretty bad for terrans. | ||
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Omegalisk
United States337 Posts
Their reason is that they wanted to nerf early game rushes (like Hellions and Bunker rushes). Edit (just to provide some more meaningful discussion): On May 10 2012 11:34 IMoperator wrote: These are huge buffs, it changes terrans early game entirely. The three most common openings TvZ were reactor hellion, 2 rax or reaper of some sort. This queen buff just completely denies all of these. Sure, it's not as bad as the 50 energy queen, but it's still pretty bad for terrans. I think that the reason Queens got a buff is because of these early game rushes. Terran always applies pressure in TvZ because there really isn't much hazard to it. With the Queen buff, these early game rushes are less viable, forcing Terran into a more macro-oriented approach, aiming for a larger mid-game push. I'm interested to see how it turns out and how the metagame changes with this buff. | ||
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zonic
New Zealand64 Posts
i really cant be sure though, im not pro! | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:33 Ruscour wrote: Queen change ruins reactor hellion openings, that's the only significance of the patch. Do yourself a favour and don't read the comments on Bnet....ugh. Which are the only good openings in the matchup. So I guess Terran no longer has a viable opening. Cool. | ||
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MugenXBanksy
United States479 Posts
Terran * Bunker is not changed dammit.... I need that bunker market to crash | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:33 T.O.P. wrote: Yeah this is a terrible change. Why even make hellions now? To kill drones ? and to def vs early mass lings ? | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:35 zonic wrote: the queen buff will help again the vr phoenix openings and banshees, i think its great. i really cant be sure though, im not pro! ..... It's only a ground attack buff. | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:27 Cyanocyst wrote: That Overlord banner, so good looking. Yea, props to whoever made that banner! | ||
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:24 Blazinghand wrote: I have to admit, this made me laugh. I would have liked a completely unnecessary bunker buff though  Bunker build time decreased by 15 seconds, health increased by 95. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:30 Blazinghand wrote: I think you're taking things just a LITTLE out of proportion here. It's not like queens are suddenly outranging hellions or bunkers or reaper bunkers or something. Yes, it's a buff, but it's milder than the energy buff. No need to use your queens to kill bunkers when you can safely snipe the scv | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
I think overlord speed is a good idea but they overdid it imo. | ||
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CarelessPride
United States146 Posts
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
*take it as the range upgrade change is to help zerg hold off bunker rushes. It's not like it's hard for zerg to get creep spread in ZvT, sure you are held back in the early midgame but then it's pretty much free for the zerg to do what ever he likes. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:38 CarelessPride wrote: the only balance changed that didnt come with a patch hm... just when map hacks start running wild in sc2 ladder.... conspiracy? Coincidence. | ||
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:24 IMoperator wrote: What is the point of the queen range, nobody has really explained that to me yet. Nobody was having trouble with hellions/reapers above diamond, zerg already has a pretty awesome mid-lategame and now early game's getting a buff too. the game isnt just for above diamond sadly, it really wont effect much so its not a big deal to think about it | ||
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