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On March 29 2012 10:04 aHaTsc wrote:
Ladder version of daybreak has a 8m2g front expansion (not a 6m1rg)
I haven't checked the ladder version of metropolis but im guessing it probably has rocks instead of the creep tumor on the island >.>.
Yeah they have destructible rocks. What is Blizzard's problem?
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On March 28 2012 10:38 dignitas.merz wrote:Seasons are too short  GM was released at the end of februray and its barely been a month. Should at least have them run for 3 months.
Ya, I preferred 3 month seasons better.
With a 2 month season it doesn't feel like you really accomplish much. New seasons come too often and it makes each new season feel less exciting individually.
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Shattered is out....Metal is still in I woulda preferred the other way round. Well look fwd to the new maps  Ohana (which looks curiously like Obama) Daybreak (Blizz's own version :/) and MEtropolis (which I am just itching to veto cos 3rd base...how do i get that vs zerg? :o)
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Thank god Shattered is out. The less rocks, the better! Wish the seasons were a bit longer, though. 4 month seasons would be perfect, imo.
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On March 29 2012 09:16 Tomba wrote:
I don't see how new season matters for anyone except for those getting/trying to get into GM.
It's new maps tho, but you don't really need a new season for that.
There are other advantages
-flushing inactive players who only did 1-2 games out of divisions more often
-people on the threshold of a demotion/promotion but held back by the "confidence threshold" get moved on
-less chance of coming back to the game late in the season and being faced with an insurmountably big bonus pool, thus preventing them from getting a shiny top 8 in the division badge
And the disadvantage of seeing more high leaguers downranking during the ladder lock to troll people
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On March 29 2012 09:18 lwwkicker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 09:16 Tomba wrote:
I don't see how new season matters for anyone except for those getting/trying to get into GM.
It's new maps tho, but you don't really need a new season for that. Holy fuck, someone that gets it!!!
Actually, he doesn't get it, it matters for everyone who hasn't been keeping their bonus pool down. Shorter seasons = bonus pool reset more often = more chances to start playing competitively.
Short seasons are good for everyone.
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On March 29 2012 16:51 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 09:18 lwwkicker wrote:On March 29 2012 09:16 Tomba wrote:
I don't see how new season matters for anyone except for those getting/trying to get into GM.
It's new maps tho, but you don't really need a new season for that. Holy fuck, someone that gets it!!! Actually, he doesn't get it, it matters for everyone who hasn't been keeping their bonus pool down. Shorter seasons = bonus pool reset more often = more chances to start playing competitively. Short seasons are good for everyone.
Indeed. Let's assume that only GM gets reset every 2 months. What about the others leagues ? Do they still get increased bonus pool ? If so how the hell they're gonna catch up ? If not, do you really think you won't be discouraged by having the same point for a long period of time (pretty much like every elo system) ?
I have still no clues why you're still bitching about it.
Peace.
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On March 28 2012 20:30 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 19:31 bluQ wrote:
... 1 Month longer it means for me 33% MORE... I don't think so. Also what does it have to do with the fact you can't spend your bonus pool in any period of time? With shorter seasons the ladder is locked more often.
Did you even read my post? Thats why i get so angry by guys who say "you don't bring any valid arguments". Often those are guys like you who don't even bother to read the posts.
Just for you:
I don't care about bonuspool, I care about the concept of having a seasonal ladder.
@Koshi, yea but I sort of get provoked by guys like him ^, thats why i may have been a bit harsh. But that at least you got what I mean makes me happy enough to forget all the hate 
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On March 29 2012 18:24 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 20:30 BadBinky wrote:On March 28 2012 19:31 bluQ wrote:
... 1 Month longer it means for me 33% MORE... I don't think so. Also what does it have to do with the fact you can't spend your bonus pool in any period of time? With shorter seasons the ladder is locked more often. Did you even read my post? Thats why i get so angry by guys who say "you don't bring any valid arguments". Often those are guys like you who don't even bother to read the posts. Just for you: Show nested quote +I don't care about bonuspool, I care about the concept of having a seasonal ladder. @Koshi, yea but I sort of get provoked by guys like him ^, thats why i may have been a bit harsh. But that at least you got what I mean makes me happy enough to forget all the hate
I really don't see how "the concept of having a seasonal ladder" is a valid argument. It's like saying a valid argument against the starcraft 2 chat system is that it's green. It makes no actual difference and is purely subjective. Since there are actual good reasons for having short seasons, I'd say "they are messing up the concept of a seasonal ladder since I disagree on what constitutes a season" is a pretty bad argument.
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god i hope they remove cloud kingdom as well, glad shat temple is out though
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On March 29 2012 19:07 Kabras wrote:
god i hope they remove cloud kingdom as well, glad shat temple is out though
Agreed, cloud kingdom is imo one of the worst maps ever made
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Did Blizzard make a post on the rough point requirements to be promoted? I recall that last season they turned out to be pretty accurate.
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On March 29 2012 16:51 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 09:18 lwwkicker wrote:On March 29 2012 09:16 Tomba wrote:
I don't see how new season matters for anyone except for those getting/trying to get into GM.
It's new maps tho, but you don't really need a new season for that. Holy fuck, someone that gets it!!! Actually, he doesn't get it, it matters for everyone who hasn't been keeping their bonus pool down. Shorter seasons = bonus pool reset more often = more chances to start playing competitively. Short seasons are good for everyone.
Keeping bonus pool points down? That doesn't affect anything other than your rank in your division. Rank in one's division has... wait for it... nothing to do with WHO you are pitted against. It is your hidden MMR. Do you even bother to read up on things before you make weird all claims? Bonus pool has nothing to do with 'playing competitively'.
If you were top 8 in your division, but consistently playing against people who were in the middle of your division, a new seasons DOES NOT mean you are going to get promoted. Doesn't meant the chances of promotion are any higher either. If you are playing middle of the road people in your division, your MMR isn't that high, unless there is a lot on uncertainty in said MMR in which case, Blizz doesn't quite know who to pit you against.
I have still no clues why you're still bitching about it.
If you are referring to me, I am still bitching about it because people don't know what they are talking about, then they make wild, stupid claims and misinform everyone.
If not, do you really think you won't be discouraged by having the same point for a long period of time (pretty much like every elo system) ?
Are you also a person that wants your losses to be hidden so as to avoid embarrassment? Ladder isn't for people like that who are so easily demotivated or scared of messing up their 'rating'.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273
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On March 29 2012 22:56 lwwkicker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 16:51 Tobberoth wrote:On March 29 2012 09:18 lwwkicker wrote:On March 29 2012 09:16 Tomba wrote:
I don't see how new season matters for anyone except for those getting/trying to get into GM.
It's new maps tho, but you don't really need a new season for that. Holy fuck, someone that gets it!!! Actually, he doesn't get it, it matters for everyone who hasn't been keeping their bonus pool down. Shorter seasons = bonus pool reset more often = more chances to start playing competitively. Short seasons are good for everyone. Keeping bonus pool points down? That doesn't affect anything other than your rank in your division. Rank in one's division has... wait for it... nothing to do with WHO you are pitted against. It is your hidden MMR. Do you even bother to read up on things before you make weird all claims? Bonus pool has nothing to do with 'playing competitively'. If you were top 8 in your division, but consistently playing against people who were in the middle of your division, a new seasons DOES NOT mean you are going to get promoted. Doesn't meant the chances of promotion are any higher either. If you are playing middle of the road people in your division, your MMR isn't that high, unless there is a lot on uncertainty in said MMR in which case, Blizz doesn't quite know who to pit you against. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273
Don't fail to read posts if you're going to tell others to read up. I never said bonus pool had anything to do with who you were pitted against, nor your chances of promotion. I said bonus pools resetting often encourages playing competitively since keeping bonus pool at 0 gives a proper indication of where you are relative to the others in your division.
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still am not sure if these shorter seasons are good or bad =\
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I'm sad about how short the seasons are. During the last season, I went from only being a full time student to getting a 25 hr/week job and I also bought a car that needs a lot of work. Alas, I have only played 5 real games all season... :C
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So does that mean April 17th is Season 7?
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On March 30 2012 03:06 Mordanis wrote:
I'm sad about how short the seasons are. During the last season, I went from only being a full time student to getting a 25 hr/week job and I also bought a car that needs a lot of work. Alas, I have only played 5 real games all season... :C
I don't get this still... This just means you don't play very often and you'd like to play more, how does season length have anything to do with that? At that rate a 3 month season means you play 7 or 8 games.
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I'm very excited for new maps but the seasons are very short.... :'(
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I don't know why people were complaining about seasons before. I always thought 6 months ~ was ideal, this is silly.
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