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Solo Terran
Profile Joined November 2011
367 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 07:14:36
March 28 2012 07:13 GMT
#281
I really liked the way they described the game without just telling us what we already see on screen. I always find almost every english caster just already tells me what I know when I'm watching a match. Sometimes people like Artosis Day 9 and Apollo can offer good analysis and insight but really less often than what was shown in this commentary. The korean commentators just seem so much better.

Also things I hate in casting:

- "expect GG any moment" Oh really, thanks that really increases everyones enjoyment when you bring that up.

- "Theres gonna be some downtime so it's time for us to completely stop talking about the game and how scouting is effecting their strategies etc and talk about purple dinosaurs for 5 minutes instead".

-every fucking strategy used is apparently an all in even if they are still making workers and expanding behind this strategy. Even the top english casters like tastosis do this.

That said I still love all the english casters but wish they would make an effort to try and be more analytical like the Korean casters. But to be honest I don't think they know the game as well as the korean casters do.
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
March 28 2012 07:22 GMT
#282
What seperates Korean Commentators from English ones is that I feel they know what they want to sya. There is very little downtime or silence in between pieces of commentary and they just spit it out faster over all. This makes it seem smoother and less stilted when you hear Wolf for instance drone on about "Well, you know the thing about this is, I've seen it on ladder and you know Khalor, I guess you really dont know whether to" etc etc.

Sorry to pick on Wolf, he's okay, he just seems fucking BORED most of the time. Which Korean commentators never ever do.

People like Day9 because he screams and yells to get excited, but to be honest, he overdoes it and even interrupts HIS OWN analysis to scream. Example from MLG: So Dong Rae Gu has two options here, he can 1) bulk up that army and OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT CREEP SPREAD, SUCH SICK CREEP SPREAD....and then never finishes his point.

All about dat balance.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
March 28 2012 08:12 GMT
#283
Koreans are waaay better than tastosis.

The problem with tastosis is that there is so much silence, no excitement and half the stuff they say are non related to the game. I think Tasteless is the main problem because his knowledge of the game is very low and is unable to provide any deep analysis. You may argue that he is the colour commentator so he doesn't need to analyse, but he rarely raises his voice with excitement. The only things that Tasteless seems to be good at are agreeing with Artosis and telling random non-starcraft stories.
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bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
March 28 2012 08:57 GMT
#284
I am impressed as well!

Korean commentators were far and away better than any foreigner caster i`ve seen (except tastosis on a very good day). They know A LOT about the game; they make the game narrative and tension by describing what needs to happen for a player to get an advantage, instead of just describing what is going on in the stream; they can get you very excited by their voices alone.

Some foreigner casting pairs can do one or another of those things, but not nearly as well, and certainly not at the same time.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 28 2012 16:14 GMT
#285
Why can't we have it like that?
Today tastosis "Babies are taking over the world"
Sandtrout
Profile Joined July 2011
243 Posts
March 28 2012 16:56 GMT
#286
On March 29 2012 01:14 Assirra wrote:
Why can't we have it like that?
Today tastosis "Babies are taking over the world"


To be fair, they were probably jetlagged and said they didn't have their own computer, so they could only see what the observer already showed. So today shouldn't be taken to measure their normal casting.
But yes, even Tastosis have a lot to improve compared to this video.
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
March 28 2012 23:02 GMT
#287
I really enjoy the much deeper analysis and foresight thinking the Korean commentators do compared to the English ones who struggle to say more than the player's style, styles of play on the map, and what is already happening on the screen.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
March 28 2012 23:19 GMT
#288
Wow. I found this really eye opening.

I had no idea how in depth and informative the Korean casts and makes me wish we had more of that style in our foreigner community. I love to hear them sound so passionate about the game they are casting, it doesn't seem like like a chore to them.

It doesn't sound like they are hung up on trying to be "cool", and are just doing a great job casting.

Thanks for this!
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
March 29 2012 03:59 GMT
#289
.. this is like watching a different game.

Brb gonna go sign up for intensive Korean lessons.
Waffles > Pancakes
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
March 29 2012 13:54 GMT
#290
Man this is sweet! I learned so much to! It would be awesome to have these guys cast in English! So fun to listen to and educational too!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
NDDseer
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia204 Posts
March 29 2012 14:20 GMT
#291
Thank you. I need to learn korean.
[On balance, and qq about cheese] "Sure some strategies might be easier to execute, but you can do them too - you have the same tools as your opponent, including your race selection." - Pokebunny
Mawderator
Profile Joined March 2012
39 Posts
March 29 2012 16:59 GMT
#292
Well done
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
March 29 2012 18:06 GMT
#293
If you are going to do more of this i suggest you check July vs aLive set 3 (on Daybreak)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 29 2012 18:16 GMT
#294
I hope that English casters watch this and realize what they need to be doing.
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
March 30 2012 14:47 GMT
#295
Wow, sick casting, i wish i could understand korean, they really make the game so fun to watch
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 30 2012 15:15 GMT
#296
wow great thank you :D always been interested hearing what korean commentators say and not just sound like
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
March 30 2012 15:17 GMT
#297
I hope the english commentators are taking notes :D
krayzy
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium66 Posts
March 30 2012 15:23 GMT
#298
Wow such nice translation, I always wanted to watch Korean VODS, they seem way more interesting than the English casts.
Thanks a lot for this, keep up the good work!
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
March 30 2012 15:37 GMT
#299
On March 31 2012 00:17 gullberg wrote:
I hope the english commentators are taking notes :D

it would make me sad if they dont realize how much they can learn from korean casters
FTD
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 30 2012 20:30 GMT
#300
Excellent work dude.

I really hope GOM takes this and runs with it- at minimum, by providing you with the rights to do subtitles as you please.

The NA community are very avid consumers of broadcast sporting media. This could help drive NA subscriptions to GOM content.

And by "could help" I mean, "definitely will contribute to in a statistically meaningful way"
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