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DoomBacon
Profile Joined February 2010
United States165 Posts
April 01 2012 03:37 GMT
#321
On March 31 2012 22:25 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 16:02 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On March 31 2012 08:07 jinorazi wrote:
On March 31 2012 00:37 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On March 31 2012 00:17 gullberg wrote:
I hope the english commentators are taking notes :D

it would make me sad if they dont realize how much they can learn from korean casters


well, majority of current sc2 casters are ex-bw players/casters. they know the korean scene and they have watched korean bw plenty of times. and i'm sure they have seen some of the translations done in the past.

the korean scene have commented in regards to tastosis, what they said is "korean casters present the game to you, english casters watch the game with you". i think culture is big factor but i'd like to see more professionalism from english casters. (i'm not sure how to explain/distinguish this professionalism)

korean casters indeed, present the game to you in a professional manner. english casters are like friends chit chatting about the game as they watch, imo. the pro/amateur feeling is what i get when i compare korean/english casts, even the days of bw when english casters started. i had trouble listening to them then(bw) and i still do (reason why i stopped buying tickets for gsl after season 2 and started again with korean vods in 2012)



I read this comment as I have the GSTL playing in the background, only to notice Wolf talking about pokemon when I finished your post. T_____T

Edit - Ok, in fairness, Squirtle was one of the players so I can see how that worked it's way into conversation.


Why do we want casters even talk about pokemon thing anyways? I could accept small reference if audience has some sign etc but not everytime Squirtle plays.

I still don't understand why can't english casters have paper (1 page) for each player that is playing where they can look all interesting statistics. How he plays, who has been his opponent etc. But rarely they even know who that guy played against last time. It just seems that english casters are lazy. Gather information about players. Its very annoying to hear "I don't know that much about this player really", why are you caster/commentator then? Is it really that hard to go through last 20-30 games of that player and update your paper sheet when needed?

Smaller tournaments like online cups and so on casters can be more liberal but bigger tournaments they need to more "professional"


I agree. It also bothers me that even the best english casters often haven't even looked at new maps that have been added to the map pool even though the addition had been announced for weeks.
/boggle
Shadowforce17
Profile Joined September 2011
18 Posts
April 01 2012 03:41 GMT
#322
I think that this is amazing. The Korean casters really give information about specific parts of the game, timings, and player styles/history that I've only seen in foreign casters' planned replay analysis, never in a live cast. Also, the enthusiasm of both the audience and casters is great.
di3alot
Profile Joined December 2011
172 Posts
April 01 2012 07:56 GMT
#323
more more more more more ppppllllssss
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 01 2012 09:24 GMT
#324
Haha very interesting. They are really spewing out the knowledge all game.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
April 01 2012 14:59 GMT
#325
Sub title... ALL THE VODS. Please.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
April 02 2012 22:53 GMT
#326
I just became a better player watching this. quite alot better
Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
April 03 2012 01:19 GMT
#327
Does anyone know how to watch the streams in Korean? First time watching a SC2 match in Korean and it's safe to say I've been converted
Didn't realize the casters were as energetic as their BW brethren!
jammedk
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark315 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 14:19:22
April 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#328
I finally got around to watching this. WOW - amazing. Gonna watch it again. I feel like I learned so much.

I wonder which is true:

1 - Tastosis CAN cast like this, but are told to/want to appeal to a broader audience - maybe asuming the forreign stream viewership is less schooled?

2 - Tastosis CANNOT cast like this.

Btw... This is NOT a bash in Tastosis - I love them to bits.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 03 2012 14:28 GMT
#329
On April 03 2012 10:19 Pasargadae wrote:
Does anyone know how to watch the streams in Korean? First time watching a SC2 match in Korean and it's safe to say I've been converted
Didn't realize the casters were as energetic as their BW brethren!

There is no simple way but i think the easiest way is probably VPN the korean gom site since it refuses to play unless you are in Korea.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 14:43:41
April 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#330
On April 03 2012 23:18 jammedk wrote:
I finally got around to watching this. WOW - amazing. Gonna watch it again. I feel like I learned so much.

I wonder which is true:

1 - Tastosis CAN cast like this, but are told to/want to appeal to a broader audience - maybe asuming the forreign stream viewership is less schooled?

2 - Tastosis CANNOT cast like this.

Btw... This is NOT a bash in Tastosis - I love them to bits.

Artosis can cast like this, just watch when he get the chance to cast with some progamer (like with TLO on DH Winter(?) it was such a good cast. It's when he cast with someone that also got alot of game knowledge he really shines and you get this kind of high quality knowledge bomb casting style like the korean casters.

Tasteless could cast like this in BW too, and Tastosis had some good BW casts but in sc2 they have gotten so much attention for how funny they are etc so I don't think they want to change their "style" like Tasteless is mentioning quite often. But anyway, I don't think they could cast like this in sc2 atm anyway because Tasteless sc2 knowledge isn't good enough to keep up with Artosis. Just look like how they are casting now, Tasteless is pretty much only there to tell jokes, call GG's and scream "OH MY GOD!!" with fake enthusiasm.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
April 04 2012 02:51 GMT
#331
Thank you so much for this vid! So this is what I've been missing out on all these years of listening to incomprehensible (though energetic) Korean commentary... Really makes me wish I could understand Korean
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
April 05 2012 19:38 GMT
#332
this is amazing. I never realized just how amazing the Korean casters are until now. They know so much about the game, able to predict things before they even happen and constantly analyzing the state of the game and who is likely to go on the attack. Thank you so much for doing this.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 19:53:02
April 05 2012 19:52 GMT
#333
I cant thank you enough! This is sooooo awesome. Please make some more, I would highly appreciate it! Again - thanks you so much!
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
April 05 2012 20:09 GMT
#334
Thanks for the subtitles!

Did anybody else find the subtitles sorta boring? It was interesting to see what they were gonna talk about, but I didn't really enjoy myself. The early part of the game was simple reiteration of the way that ZvP works, going over basics that would get tedious if repeated every ZvP. Then they extrapolated rather absurd conclusions about the two players being "evenly matched" from their "similar MU win ratios," which they didn't really explain. Surely these two players haven't played enough in the GSL for that to matter.

The rest, for the most part, was a ton of simply stating what was in the production queue. "He's making immortals...! And now that he's lost his roaches, he's making mutas...!" etc. Oddly, I didn't see them mention the spire until the mutas were in production. :-/

Didn't really seem that interesting.

Are you human?
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
April 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#335
On March 27 2012 02:22 Yenticha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:17 suki wrote:
The great part of the korean casters is that they do such a great job of raising the energy level of the game. Even when the zerg is basically dead, they make the final few minutes so interesting that you can just ignore the inevitable end and get swept up in the excitement of their story.


thats my problem with it. I really couldn't ignore that there was no way for Z to comeback. At that point I would have preferred some explanations about when Z had screwed up, what mistakes had been made, etc

Am I really the only one preferring Idra style casting?

And yeah I do understand that Korean style is better to hype up, and to make esports grow etc etc

No, I'm with you. They didn't even mention that zerg had failed two expensive attacks, and that was almost definitely gonna cost him the game when the protoss counterattacked. All they said is, "It's his job to defend now." It was a really shallow description of the situation.

I don't think the Korean style is at all "necessary" for e-sports. It just wasn't interesting to me. I kept wanting them to either provide more depth and not just tell me what's on the screen, or at least say something amusing.
Are you human?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 06 2012 05:26 GMT
#336
The korean commentators don't really do anything more than tastosis does analytic wise and there's no humor like there is betweenaartosis and tasteless which makes the commentary boring with a bunch of bungled words(dat korean) you don't understand with english subtitles. Yes I watch anime with english subtitles but that's different. English casting>korean casting w/English subtitles.
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badamadab
Profile Joined August 2010
11 Posts
April 06 2012 05:42 GMT
#337
This makes me want to learn Korean. So much more interesting and in depth and even more humorous than typical English casts.
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
April 06 2012 05:56 GMT
#338
Amazing job!!! I think I love the Korean Casters better than Tastetosis the casting archon.
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
April 06 2012 22:51 GMT
#339
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LisKelicious
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany36 Posts
April 07 2012 06:04 GMT
#340
<3 it much :D
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