On April 06 2012 05:09 suejak wrote: Thanks for the subtitles!
Did anybody else find the subtitles sorta boring? It was interesting to see what they were gonna talk about, but I didn't really enjoy myself. The early part of the game was simple reiteration of the way that ZvP works, going over basics that would get tedious if repeated every ZvP. Then they extrapolated rather absurd conclusions about the two players being "evenly matched" from their "similar MU win ratios," which they didn't really explain. Surely these two players haven't played enough in the GSL for that to matter.
The rest, for the most part, was a ton of simply stating what was in the production queue. "He's making immortals...! And now that he's lost his roaches, he's making mutas...!" etc. Oddly, I didn't see them mention the spire until the mutas were in production. :-/
Didn't really seem that interesting.
kind of hard to compare if there's no 2nd video to compare to
I think this is kind of a warning to English casters. Upgrade your game. Many casters are at this level Artosis, and Tasteless when he's serious. Day 9 could do it if he focused on it. And others like DeMuslim, etc.
To be honest, I think the closest caster to the Koreans...
is actually Day[9].
I think the Korean casts are just so much more fun because they really work so damn hard in them to make it exciting, fun, and yet at the same time, cram as much knowledge as possible into the games. Which I feel is exactly what Day[9] tries to bring every time.
Often times foreign casters will just "give up" on a game and sit back, and have nothing to say for a while. However, it's rare to hear Korean casters sit back and do nothing; they're always shouting something as if the probes are about to selfdestruct and teleport into the opponent's main. Obviously jk but my point remains the same.
I'm sorry, but the Koreans have, do, and will continue to put foreigner casters to shame, at least until we take Day[9] from his Brood War dailies, add a good pinch of enthusiasm/shout-casting abilities, and clone him. Then place this person in the GSL as a duo. Guaranteed fantastic commentary.
Until then, I watch Brood War a lot, but despite playing SC2, I can't watch it. It's worse than the TG-Samba Intel Classic or GomTV's brood war tournament, were Tasteless brought up things like goat milk and panda bear guys instead of actually casting the game. He uses his humour as a crutch.
On April 09 2012 18:56 Keone wrote: To be honest, I think the closest caster to the Koreans...
is actually Day[9].
I think the Korean casts are just so much more fun because they really work so damn hard in them to make it exciting, fun, and yet at the same time, cram as much knowledge as possible into the games. Which I feel is exactly what Day[9] tries to bring every time.
Often times foreign casters will just "give up" on a game and sit back, and have nothing to say for a while. However, it's rare to hear Korean casters sit back and do nothing; they're always shouting something as if the probes are about to selfdestruct and teleport into the opponent's main. Obviously jk but my point remains the same.
That was Day[9] being BM mostly, as TeamLiquid collectively didn't care for Combat that much. He was more political and fair about it then most, but a lot of commentator bias and acting a little buzzed (perhaps he was, literally). Funny, and decent commentary, but if you want to see him really shine, go watch him somewhere between daily #50 and #100 of his old dailies. Amazing analysis, especially in TvT (where experience and analysis really shine).
While you're at it, if you're an SC2 viewer looking to get into Brood War, watch the recent Proleague finals match. It was very solid.
On April 12 2012 18:29 Azzur wrote: After hearing so many english casts - with many poor ones even by high profile casters - would love to see more of these subtitles done!
Haha. Here because you listened to Tastosis ramble on about Pokemon for 10 minutes? That was hilarious and entertaining, but in a very irrelevant, incorrect way. I like how the Korean commentators are very focused into the game and try to bring knowledge from all areas.
1. Korean casters. They tell us what happens usually and then appear surprised when something changes. Not particularly technical, not especially useful. The preamble at the start of that match was complete rubbish but the excitement mid match was very fun to watch.
2. Day9/dApollo. Here is what I think will happen, here is what I think the players will do. Usually the type of caster you want to watch if you're actually interested in what is going on. Tend to have the best read of the game. Not always exciting to listen to.
3. Tasteless/Artosis - banter, play by play and technical analysis. Probably the best balance overall, but runs the risk of becoming overreliant on "chemistry".
4. Sports casters - TotalBiscuit is the archetypical caster of this type. Lots of shouting, absolutely no real analysis of any type. Their purpose is to provide a backing track to your own thoughts about the game and make it more exciting. This is more or less what 90% of real sports casters do in fast paced games - watch any game of La Liga or the Premier League.
The only thing missing really is the Analysis Couch, where key moments of the game could be picked out and displayed. It is quite silly that we haven't done this already, given how easy it is to load replays of Starcraft 2.
It's like watching futbol / soccer with spanish casters instead of americans. even if you don't know what they are saying the game is still better. Tasteosis has always seemed very meh to me, but everybody else liked them. The reason I don't honestly is because they don't seem to get excited.
I know a lot of people here hate(d) on klazart, but I loved him so much because he actually got excited about the game. The caster that is excited about the game gets you to care about the game. THAT is the important part. Storylines, emotion, that is what gets people involved and into the scene.
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