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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#841
If you would measure the amount of battles and lengths of those battles would you see a difference between sc and bw? Because that's the entertainment we like to see and if sc2 tournaments would air instead of bw would the entertainment go down? In terms of a construed entertainment definition like what i described or are the entertainment aspect entirely subjective?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
March 18 2012 01:59 GMT
#842
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money?


You don't understand how much BW pros make, do you?
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 18 2012 02:04 GMT
#843
Well, if SC2 gets more exposure, i am kinda ok with it.

Just keep the BW leagues established, ok? SC2 has nothing to offer against Reaver drops
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 18 2012 03:31 GMT
#844
On March 18 2012 10:59 INTOtheVOID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money?


You don't understand how much BW pros make, do you?


bw mascots make more money than most sc2 korean pro players sadly lol
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DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
March 18 2012 03:34 GMT
#845
On March 18 2012 12:31 Soft`Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 10:59 INTOtheVOID wrote:
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money?


You don't understand how much BW pros make, do you?


bw mascots make more money than most sc2 korean pro players sadly lol


thats actually not true dude
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
March 18 2012 03:37 GMT
#846
On March 18 2012 12:34 DeadBull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:31 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:59 INTOtheVOID wrote:
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money?


You don't understand how much BW pros make, do you?


bw mascots make more money than most sc2 korean pro players sadly lol


thats actually not true dude


pretty sure it's true, you get an ok salary in bw teams, and pretty much nothing in a sc2 team. Your only way of getting money is winning code s
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 03:39:47
March 18 2012 03:38 GMT
#847
So we're going to have a league run by KESPA that will be highly regulated and have broadcasting clout. I really don't see how they can coexist with GOM - it would be nice, but I don't see it happening. If the SC2 Proleague becomes the main league in Korea and they retain any semblance of BW rules, getting a license is going to be at least as hard as Code A qualifiers. Farewell foreigners from Korea, it's back to the kiddy pool.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
March 18 2012 03:39 GMT
#848
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
March 18 2012 03:40 GMT
#849
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 18 2012 03:42 GMT
#850
On March 18 2012 10:37 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
To any of the newer guys to SC, allow me to explain a couple things so you can understand what this means. Brood War is pretty much a national sport in South Korea, probably the most popular after.. soccer. StarCraft 2 is very, very tiny in comparison over there, practically a joke. To warn against a common fallacy made on these forums, just because SC2 is the biggest esport in the US or wherever doesn't mean it's the same everywhere else, especially not in Korea.

Now OGN is a huge Korean broadcasting company, at least the company it's a subsidiary of. If indeed SC2 is broadcasted by a company like OGN, is broadcasted on television, and reaches the same overwhelming Korean audience that worships Brood War, SC2 will get HUGE exposure. It's exactly what SC2 needs to go from "underground" to mainstream over in Korea. In other words, it's a huge fucking deal.

Show nested quote +
I hope Blizzard is able to come to terms with Kespa before LoL dominates the e-sports scene in Korea..

Brood War does, by far. LoL isn't the country's 2nd or 3rd most popular professional sport last I checked, and it's nowhere close to coming to that point, either.


Well there is a huge OGN tournament for LoL. So I would say LoL is on the rise, at least.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 18 2012 03:43 GMT
#851
On March 18 2012 12:34 DeadBull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:31 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:59 INTOtheVOID wrote:
On March 18 2012 06:39 Forikorder wrote:
has anyone considered BW pros want to switch over to SC2 to make more money?


You don't understand how much BW pros make, do you?


bw mascots make more money than most sc2 korean pro players sadly lol


thats actually not true dude


most sc2 korean pro players make how much in salary?
0?
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rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
March 18 2012 03:44 GMT
#852
On March 18 2012 12:40 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene

not like they aim for them. or need them.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
March 18 2012 03:44 GMT
#853
huge ads for ogn lol league atm
ace hwaiting!!
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
March 18 2012 03:48 GMT
#854
On March 18 2012 12:40 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene


They didn't do much reaching out during BW as far as I know in terms of casting, so it will be interesting to see how KeSPA works it.

Also, what are the odds of KeSPA reforming in to a GeSPA (Global)? Including other major Esports teams and tournments into the fold and sort of expanding the organization infrastructure developed under BW to the whole scene. Inessence, breaking down the Korean/Foreigner barrier even more alongside GOM's efforts.

This goes against cultural norms that may permiate the Association, but it expands potential sponsorship, viewership and participation on a MASSIVE scale. And with the sponsorship issue they are facing now as well as a kind of plateauing on Korean-centric success, this could be a good step overal. Although like I said, it could also lead to cultural clashing from a business perspective, but there would be stronger communication lines..

Its got its pros and cons, but overall I think it would be a wise step.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
March 18 2012 03:51 GMT
#855
On March 18 2012 12:48 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:40 Kira__ wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene


They didn't do much reaching out during BW as far as I know in terms of casting, so it will be interesting to see how KeSPA works it.

Also, what are the odds of KeSPA reforming in to a GeSPA (Global)? Including other major Esports teams and tournments into the fold and sort of expanding the organization infrastructure developed under BW to the whole scene. Inessence, breaking down the Korean/Foreigner barrier even more alongside GOM's efforts.

This goes against cultural norms that may permiate the Association, but it expands potential sponsorship, viewership and participation on a MASSIVE scale. And with the sponsorship issue they are facing now as well as a kind of plateauing on Korean-centric success, this could be a good step overal. Although like I said, it could also lead to cultural clashing from a business perspective, but there would be stronger communication lines..

Its got its pros and cons, but overall I think it would be a wise step.


They would have to make A LOT of concessions since the foreign SC2 scene has become quite accustomed to doing business in a totally different manner. Why won't the foreigners do more compromising: I don't see a lot of lower/mid tier teams/players agreeing to rules/conditions that will basically make them completely irrelevant.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 03:52:02
March 18 2012 03:51 GMT
#856
On March 18 2012 12:44 soujiro_ wrote:
huge ads for ogn lol league atm


LoL is much bigger in Korea than SC2 will ever be, and they just started casting it, no wonder they got so much ad exposure.

LoL and BW are huge in Korea, SC2 is less than tiny.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
March 18 2012 03:53 GMT
#857
On March 18 2012 12:44 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:40 Kira__ wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene

not like they aim for them. or need them.


Don't they? Sc2 is nowhere near as popular as BW and everyone has said the e-sports is in a precarious bubble. you would think they would exploit the biggest market out there with the loudest fans and biggest crowds (SC2 im talking about)...but I don't know, I'm no genius....
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
March 18 2012 03:55 GMT
#858
Hopefully this means we get a higher quality map pool with maps that are rotated out with each season, because having a mediocre map in the map pool like metal for 2 years will not fly with the high standards of proleague.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
March 18 2012 03:55 GMT
#859
On March 18 2012 12:53 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:44 rasers wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:40 Kira__ wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene

not like they aim for them. or need them.


Don't they? Sc2 is nowhere near as popular as BW and everyone has said the e-sports is in a precarious bubble. you would think they would exploit the biggest market out there with the loudest fans and biggest crowds (SC2 im talking about)...but I don't know, I'm no genius....

western esports is a bubble.
korean esports is fine. and with LoL now it gets stronger again.

and no a korean TV station doesnt need foreign audience.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 04:04:34
March 18 2012 04:04 GMT
#860
On March 18 2012 12:55 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 12:53 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:44 rasers wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:40 Kira__ wrote:
On March 18 2012 12:39 Ruscour wrote:
On March 18 2012 05:26 Koshi wrote:
I wonder what casters they will get. Because Tastosis is already signed to GoM.

Probably none.


they're probably not that stupid as to not exploit the foreign scene

not like they aim for them. or need them.


Don't they? Sc2 is nowhere near as popular as BW and everyone has said the e-sports is in a precarious bubble. you would think they would exploit the biggest market out there with the loudest fans and biggest crowds (SC2 im talking about)...but I don't know, I'm no genius....

western esports is a bubble.
korean esports is fine. and with LoL now it gets stronger again.

and no a korean TV station doesnt need foreign audience.


I think the problem here is not talking about problems sustaining past goals, but growing beyond them. Does the Korean Esports scene want to stay focused solely on themseleves or do they want to help grow the global scene and be able to reap greater potentail rewards from their efforts. What if that Korean TV stations decides to run an online component and be the only real television (that I know of) willing to dedicate resources to seriously support esports on a global scale. Their Korean TV channel may not care, but the company could be looking at a massive market that is within their reach to tap if they really want to.

Or they could let GOM and Twitch take it.....
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