Where did all of the terrans go? - Page 135

On March 25 2012 08:19 freetgy wrote:


if multi prologed harass is apm intensive, then by pure logic, defending them is equally hard................

On March 25 2012 08:29 ChaosTerran wrote:
What league are you in? In what world do HTs ever wander off and die randomly due to pathfinding? This is total news to me. HTs for once are slower than the rest of the army which makes it practically impossible to lose them to anything simply because they are at the back of your army BY DEFAULT. And collossi aren't faster than the rest of your army and THEY CAN WALK ON TOP OF OTHER UNITS so pathfinding doesn't affect them AT ALL, NADA, this argument can be made for Ultras, but Collossi? No, just no. Bullshit nothing else.

And how exactly are HTs "easy targets"? I find it 10x harder to emp HTs than to storm a bio ball. With storm you can literally hit anything and it's good for you as long as it's a terran unit, with EMP you have to A: get close enough to the HTs to hit them (remember they are behind everything else, which is extremely dumb when you consider the fact that protoss has chargelots which make it impossible to close the gap) and B: Hit HTs specifically, you can't just derp a few EMPs and just EMP all protoss units, you have to target Hts specifically.

And in what world is "controlling" your HTs as hard as stutter stepping, kiting and spliting for 30+ seconds? What control is it that HTs require? They are behind your army by default so they don't need extra protection and like I said collossi don't have any pathfinding issues at all because they can LITERALLY WALK ON TOP OF OTHER SHIT.


edit: And just for the record, a 2 base thor all-in is not mech play. That definition would be completely silly. If building a single mech unit in your army is considered mech play then a terran opening 6 hellions in TvZ is automatically a mech player, same goes for a terran who goes marine tank or a terran who builds a single thor vs. mutas. LOL

On March 25 2012 09:14 mazqo wrote:
Yosho i just think you are bad and you like to cry. Please can you tell me at what level you play and maybe you could post some replays of where protoss amoves you.

On March 25 2012 09:12 LightSpectra wrote:


I'm in Masters, and as I said, Terran is my main race. HTs get killed for wandering off even for pro players, which is why you'll occasionally see them being moved around in a warp prism trailing behind the deathball (mostly seen in HuK's and WhiteRa's play). Unless you have lightning fast reaction time, people lose important units all the time. Calling "bullshit" on this makes me think you don't even play Starcraft at all. Never seen a colossus die because it walked off the cliff when you weren't babysitting it? It happened while I was watching NonY's stream a couple days ago in a PvP. It sounds like a stupid blunder, and it is, which is why it takes more than "A move lol" to play Protoss lategame. I think it's harder to kite with a bio ball, but that's countered by the fact that Terran macro doesn't require looking at where you're warping in units, just flipping through hotkeys. Protoss takes micro too, albeit of a different variety.

You evidently haven't seen the ThorZain vs. MC games I was talking about. It's a shame I can't quite remember what tournament it was; I believe it was the Liquid TSL actually.

On March 25 2012 08:19 LightSpectra wrote: Keep in mind that EMP is better than storm, because EMP happens instantaneously and comes from a fast cloaked unit.

On March 25 2012 09:31 Yosho wrote:
OH man I'm so done with this thread ^^ I'll start posting advice again when Teamliquid puts in a filter for low level players with big heads ^^

On March 25 2012 08:20 Alexstrasas wrote:
Parting vs Rain anyone?

On March 25 2012 09:12 LightSpectra wrote:


I'm in Masters, and as I said, Terran is my main race. HTs get killed for wandering off even for pro players, which is why you'll occasionally see them being moved around in a warp prism trailing behind the deathball (mostly seen in HuK's and WhiteRa's play). Unless you have lightning fast reaction time, people lose important units all the time. Calling "bullshit" on this makes me think you don't even play Starcraft at all. Never seen a colossus die because it walked off the cliff when you weren't babysitting it? It happened while I was watching NonY's stream a couple days ago in a PvP. It sounds like a stupid blunder, and it is, which is why it takes more than "A move lol" to play Protoss lategame. I think it's harder to kite with a bio ball, but that's countered by the fact that Terran macro doesn't require looking at where you're warping in units, just flipping through hotkeys. Protoss takes micro too, albeit of a different variety.

You evidently haven't seen the ThorZain vs. MC games I was talking about. It's a shame I can't quite remember what tournament it was; I believe it was the Liquid TSL actually.

On March 25 2012 09:37 mazqo wrote:

http://sc2ranks.com/us/3203375/vGYosho

Seems like you aint so good yourself. Midmaster. Im GM level in EU

On March 25 2012 09:44 Gandalf wrote:


That profile also shows him as Terran, when he's been claiming to be a random player lol...

On March 25 2012 09:44 Gandalf wrote:


That profile also shows him as Terran, when he's been claiming to be a random player lol...

On March 25 2012 09:37 mazqo wrote:

http://sc2ranks.com/us/3203375/vGYosho

Seems like you aint so good yourself. Midmaster. Im GM level in EU

On March 25 2012 09:40 ChaosTerran wrote:


On forums everyone is a master league player. But the fact that you think Protoss use speed prism/HT because they don't want to lose their HTs is ridiculous. First of all, the risk of losing your HTs is far greater when you put them into a speed prism since your opponent will absolutely always have vikings lategame. Second of all, when the HTs are behind your army there is next to no risk for the protoss that he's going to lose his HTs, because no terran units can even get in range to do any harm to them.

There are two reasons why speed prism HT play is used, both not equally important. First of all, it's extremely hard to EMP both the warp prism and snipe it or emp the HTs before they can cast storm and second of all, it adds maneuverability to your HTs, you can flank from behind with storms or from the sides, it's just a speed boost if you feel like you need it.

I'll just go with yosho though, cba with this thread anymore. It's a waste of time.

On March 25 2012 09:48 Yosho wrote:


900 points isn't mid master.. I never denied my points either that's my terran account. Where is your link? Even if you are high rated.. Makes me wonder even more how you got high rated are you a protoss? That could explain why your advice was shit but your points are high lol.

On March 25 2012 09:46 ZenithM wrote:

So Yosho was the "I'm a gosu random so I can tell you that Terran is way harder" kinda guy even though he actually mains Terran and just wants to whine a bit?
Classic.