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Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
March 09 2012 05:10 GMT
#221
I don't see the slurs as that big a deal, but it was just shady how you denied it being you for a while and only owned up to it once there was too much evidence to lie anymore. That said, hope you've learned from your mistakes though and keep casting. You'll get the forgiveness thing eventually, the internet has a bad memory. Good luck Orb!
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
March 09 2012 05:11 GMT
#222
On March 09 2012 13:58 Rorschach wrote:
I for one have emailed every EG sponsor to tell them they should consider dropping their support of the team due to how they handled this situation. Too much hypocrisy to stomach....

Just as crappy as GOM back pedaling and revoking Nani's code S spot.
If SC2 is going to be built on community full of asshats I hope its completely dead within the next few years....

And lastly to all the self righteous jack asses who have "accepted his apology" why don't you get off your high horse and go play 'hide and go fuck yourself"...


never was the phrase "killing esports" better placed.
what is wrong with you? "plz drop the support for XY because i disagree!" imagine everyone would act like you in any situation. then there would be no sponsors in esports. why would they support esports if theyll get 100000 emails on a day from people who considers to drop support for X for doing Y.

are you contacting them for every situation handled good aswell? ill bet all my money you dont.
you should consider to leave esports.
Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
March 09 2012 05:11 GMT
#223
This was all you had to do the moment it came out, and if you had improved your behavior immediately after you would have gained a great deal of respect from the community for showing some much needed maturity. Learning to admit that you're wrong is probably one of the biggest challenges people face, and you just dropped the ball. The moment your pitiful excuse came out, people smelled blood and tore you apart with your past, and what might have very well been the present if this shitstorm didn't blow in. I liked you when I first watched you casting, but when you were raging on stream and in games and denying any failures on your part, you showed your true face. I hope you learn a much needed lesson from this and learn to just chill out more and be careful about your choice of words when you rage because we all do have our moments, but they don't have to be this ugly. Its sad you lost such an opportunity, but its about time you were truly held accountable for your actions as a prominent member of the community.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
skycobra
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada14 Posts
March 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#224
We love you orb! we know that you are not actually racist... It's too bad people can't be more understanding. I never take what people say seriously on ladder. People always say things they don't mean. It's not like you would say any of those things to someone in person anyway.

I will still watch everything you do! :D <3
<3 SaSe, grubby, MaNa
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
March 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#225
Don't worry man, you'll get back to where you were with time =)
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
March 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#226
On March 09 2012 14:09 ShadezOwnage wrote:
A bunch of people get away with it every day - you were just zeroed in on for some random reason.

Either way, its not like you will not be demanded...some of the stuff you did weekly was appointment programming for me and I am sure you can get back into it right away.



1. He lied saying he didn't do it, and made up a lot of shit to pretend he's innocent (accusing people of slander / blaming his friends). Had he just admitted and apologised this could/would have probably blown over seeing as he is not the first or the last person to not be PC on stream.
2. He works for EG and casts professional games (I'm sure you can appreciate the difference)
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
March 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#227
Orb is not a racist? Care to explain the screenshot of him saying "damn I wish IdrA would change his theme song to 'I wanna kill every nigger in the world' " without having been provoked?



Does it matter? What is done is done. I think everyone needs to lighten the fuck up.
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
March 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#228
Most people BM on ladder man np.
日本語が上手ですね
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
March 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#229
i don't accept your apology and i'm glad you were fired.

you proved you have the highest levels of immatury imaginable. for a 23 year old, it is downright pathetic. the way you reacted to this sitatution showed you're not ready for the professional world, let alone the real world. i hope this sitation makes you seriously reconsider your attitude and responsibilties in life and you grow up. even your apology letter sounds like a bad Law & Order script where the defendant is trying to make excuses. when you become grown up, you can assume i accept your apology, but not until then.
P0ckets
Profile Joined January 2011
United States430 Posts
March 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#230
How ridiculously nosy and hypocritical our community is. I am positive the majority of the community has used racial slurs to express their anger by using it as the most offensive words they know and I doubt they have any true racial hate. This issue should of been between Orb, the victims and the support staff at Blizzard. It was a real dick move by those who post the images because it really wasn't needed to be shown the entire community. The only reason the person did that was to get back and basically ruin his career, which is a terrible thing to do over a single word, which wasn't even used in it's worst context.

I mean really are we going to just burn Orb here at the stake? Or are we going to scrutinize every professional player's comments and BM? How is next Idra or Destiny? I mean really what next are we going to secretly record personal convos and post them on reddit? This nosy shit is getting out of hand, I mean people need to respect other peoples privacy to a certain extent.
ADeZ
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada31 Posts
March 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#231
I think ppl need to learn what recismism ACTUALLY IS!!!!!
Yazilliclick
Profile Joined April 2010
13 Posts
March 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#232
On March 09 2012 14:03 Esk23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 14:00 Yazilliclick wrote:
I'm sorry but this apology feels REALLY hollow after all the bullshit trying lying that it wasn't you in the first place. Also from what I've seen not the first time you've done this type of thing is it? I don't get why it should be water under the bridge and apology accepted.


If people weren't going so crazy in the first place and blowing this out of proportion I don't think he'd feel the need to lie about it, it's not an excuse he shouldn't lie about it anyways but the over-reaction was wrong also. People nowdays don't give others a chance to correct themselves or make up for it, they gotta be crucified immediately.


I don't buy that. I'm not saying it's easy to admit you were wrong, it never is, but a mature person man's up in those situations and accepts it and tries to improve. An immature person in that situation works as hard as they can to pretend it wasn't them like a kid blaming someone else for braking the window and only eventually apologizes when they see they have no way out. I don't think it deserved the reaction it got but it's hilarious people justifying how he acted both in the initial tantrum saying everybody rages and in the aftermath trying to lie his way out of it.
Getstarcrafttwo
Profile Joined August 2011
19 Posts
March 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#233
So you got angry and bm'd... But what i dont understand is why did you lie about it? You even said "do you think im fabricating this" when you actually were. You went into a deep lie with twists saying that it was someone else, you taught them your hotkeys, and that you use a smurf. That hurts man. I know your career was on the line but still be truthful.
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
March 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#234
S'all good, people make mistakes. You got great potential as a caster. Keep up the hardwork yo.
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
dekarp
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 05:15:44
March 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#235
Tried to find the part where you apologized for lying to people about your friend using your account...

You didn't. Just admit you lied to the community and to EG.

Relationships are build on trust, when you lie (about something major) you destroy that relationship, and I fully support EG terminating their contract/relationship with you. Trust isn't earned over a week of honesty, and honestly, I find it very hard for you to get good with any SC2 organization ever again... would you hire someone who was dishonest and could hurt your company's image with that dishonesty (completely barring the fact you made a "racist" and "homophobic" comment)?

You wouldn't.

Edit: I can't believe so many people are overlooking the fact that he lied... ok, ya, forgive him for raging on ladder, that's acceptable, we all say things we shouldn't sometime... but to lie to an employer? To the community? To not only lie, but to lash out at people after lying (TotalBiscuit)? Really unacceptable.
https://dotabuff.com/players/110773298 divinereps on reddit.
allerion
Profile Joined December 2011
62 Posts
March 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#236
we've all called someone a nigger before, dont worry about it orb, no biggie.

so much butthurt in this community.... glad im not active in it.
SpeedSloth
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
March 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#237
Looks like orb will think twice before off-racing again.
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
March 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#238
On March 09 2012 14:11 Muffel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 13:58 Rorschach wrote:
I for one have emailed every EG sponsor to tell them they should consider dropping their support of the team due to how they handled this situation. Too much hypocrisy to stomach....

Just as crappy as GOM back pedaling and revoking Nani's code S spot.
If SC2 is going to be built on community full of asshats I hope its completely dead within the next few years....

And lastly to all the self righteous jack asses who have "accepted his apology" why don't you get off your high horse and go play 'hide and go fuck yourself"...


never was the phrase "killing esports" better placed.
what is wrong with you? "plz drop the support for XY because i disagree!" imagine everyone would act like you in any situation. then there would be no sponsors in esports. why would they support esports if theyll get 100000 emails on a day from people who considers to drop support for X for doing Y.

are you contacting them for every situation handled good aswell? ill bet all my money you dont.
you should consider to leave esports.


Right...
And I suppose ppl contacting sponsors in order to have casters fired is pushing esports forward!
Fuck em, they are going to kill it anyways I am going to take jabs when teams/companies makes jack ass moves....
En Taro Adun, Executor!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 05:15 GMT
#239
On March 09 2012 14:10 dynabetes wrote:
on a sidenote, how about InControl trolling a porn star (aka mia rose) to the brink of tears. That was quite an embarrassment to watch and much more deplorable than trolling a random ladder opponent who you don't know.

source?

and even assuming its true it would ahve to be completely one sided, completely innitiated by incontrol and even then the fact the other party is a porn star means majority wouldnt care
GleefulPiXie
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada76 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 05:16:14
March 09 2012 05:15 GMT
#240
Everyone gets mad. I get mad all the time. I'm not exactly happy that a renowned member of the community is spouting his mouth off, but I know how shit gets when you're playing a ladder game. Best of luck in the future Orb, I hope you find a group willing to give you a job, as you are a talented caster.
Master Protoss Player - www.twitch.tv/gleefulmidget - Don't eat the crab dip yahyah
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