EPTHave you ever seen pro sports, a ton of people flip out when their pissed, they just don't say the "n" word, because they know theres thousands of people watching.
Or because they're not racist.
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2012 05:19 Shaok wrote: I know they have to do it simply because of sponsor issues but its ridiculous anyone could even remotely consider you a Racist for using a word that means absolutely nothing. For everyone who gets offended by words: You are the one who decides to be affected by them. You have control over how you react to everything. But what if I decide that I wish to voice my objection to what he is saying? And remember that he decides to say those words, knowing that some people will respond to them poorly. Really, I think that is his intent when he says them. | ||
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Xenomorph
United States137 Posts
 Fucker" against Cruncher during an actual tournament yesterday. Everyone BMs and he was just frustrated. We're all human and the fact people are making such a big deal about it shows that esports fans are just drama mongers. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:37 Xenomorph wrote: I think its ludacris that he's being banned after Idras " Fucker" against Cruncher during an actual tournament yesterday. Everyone BMs and he was just frustrated. We're all human and the fact people are making such a big deal about it shows that esports fans are just drama mongers. You do realize the difference between a common insult and racial slurs, right? Also, casters are a dime a dozen, whereas people as skilled and famous as IdrA are rare. By the way, nice thread necro. | ||
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Xenomorph
United States137 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:38 Tump wrote: You do realize the difference between a common insult and racial slurs, right? Also, casters are a dime a dozen, whereas people as skilled and famous as IdrA are rare. By the way, nice thread necro. "Fucker" is just as offensive, if not more to some people, that "nigger" is. Not to mention he did it during a tournament, not just ladder play. Just because Idra is famous shouldn't mean he's immune. As people have stated its a double standard. | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:38 Tump wrote: You do realize the difference between a common insult and racial slurs, right? Also, casters are a dime a dozen, whereas people as skilled and famous as IdrA are rare. By the way, nice thread necro. Actually, there is really no difference between the two types of insults in these cases unless you are utterly oblivious to what "context" means. The real difference is that, like you said, Idra is liked more and has more fans, it's all blatently a double standard but in this day and age people still seem totally cool with that. Me personally? The hypocrisy makes me sick, but that's human nature for ya. | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:37 Xenomorph wrote: I think its ludacris that he's being banned after Idras " Fucker" against Cruncher during an actual tournament yesterday. Everyone BMs and he was just frustrated. We're all human and the fact people are making such a big deal about it shows that esports fans are just drama mongers. I think that necro'ing what was a substantial drama thread also shows that at least one e-sport fan is just a drama monger.* * To be fair, I do not know for certain that the poster in question is an e-sport fan, merely used the title for symmetry. | ||
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blinken
Canada368 Posts
Orb was a fantastic caster with excellent insight; it's a shame there are such losers in this community, with such free time as to get him fired. What a pathetic community this can be. | ||
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Xenomorph
United States137 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:53 Porcelina wrote: I think that necro'ing what was a substantial drama thread also shows that at least one e-sport fan is just a drama monger.* * To be fair, I do not know for certain that the poster in question is an e-sport fan, merely used the title for symmetry. I actually just found out so I thought I'd put my 2 cents in. Also it was only a month old, which isn't really that old. The warning for necro threads is 2 months. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On April 16 2012 09:05 Grumbels wrote: What Idra did was far less offensive, it was mean-spirited and obnoxious, but not racist. What did idra do | ||
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FoeHamr
United States489 Posts
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Xenomorph
United States137 Posts
On April 16 2012 09:05 Grumbels wrote: What Idra did was far less offensive, it was mean-spirited and obnoxious, but not racist. People keep throwing around the race card, despite the word being used by white guys, black guys, and pretty much the gaming community as a whole. People read into it FAR to much despite people like Idra (who I am a fan of) using words like "faggot" when laddering. Should the gay community be offended? Or maybe people should worry less about words that can be filtered out of your game. It's like the terminology "gay". "thats kinda gay" It's not suppose be an attack against gay people, and in fact I know quite a few gay friends that use it themselves. Whites are becoming a minority in America we need to stop pretending like every rage filled word on the ladder is suppose to offensive to a culture/creed/sex and realize that it's probably just a bunch of angry white nerds that are mad they lost a game. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
To think that words are just words is incredibly naive and that's not how society works. Language constitutes the way we think about things and how our social reality comes to shape. So if calling someone a nigger or a fagot as an insult is something that is common and accepted it is pretty clear that racist and homophobic tendencies present themselves on a basic linguistic level. And notice I used the two words myself without censoring or hinting at them because there is a context in which they can be used because they aren't referencing anything else but themselves as words but there is no context in which they can be used as an insult in a harmless way. | ||
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discomatt
113 Posts
You can say any word you want and not be racist. Words themselves aren't racist, context and opinion of them are. I call my Indian friends racial slurs all the time, and vice versa. Personally, if many, many African Americans are okay with using the term 'nigger' in a non-racist context, I don't see an issue with using it myself, in a non-racist context. If someone gets offended, they're more than welcome to judge me. I generally don't care about the assumptions one might make about me. Obviously there's a time and a place. The workplace is not somewhere to use what a good portion of society considers 'edgy' words. If your work happens to be where you play as well, it may be in your best interest to watch your mouth while playing. | ||
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DashNair
Italy10 Posts
On April 16 2012 09:08 FoeHamr wrote: Ok guys its been like a month and a half. Can we move on yet? You do know that this whole shitstorm started because people with to much hate and free time started to look out for a 2years old insult?. The main point of relevance about the Idra "wording" has been pointed already: he has a fanbase large enough to make it pretty much immune to this kind of incidents, Orb didn't have that. Edit: Offtopic: Right almost forgot I really wish from the botton of my heart to GTFO of here to all those psycopaths that got Orb fired. The new guy that is doing the duo casting now doesn't has a lot of insight and give 0 emotions on each crucial moment of the games (even if the games aren't live tournamente, come on try to psych it up a little). | ||
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On April 16 2012 08:49 Xenomorph wrote: "Fucker" is just as offensive, if not more to some people, that "nigger" is. Not to mention he did it during a tournament, not just ladder play. Just because Idra is famous shouldn't mean he's immune. As people have stated its a double standard. lol really? Man responses get dumber and dumber by the millisecond. Fucker can be taken as a joke whereas the word Nigger can't. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
I actually just found out so I thought I'd put my 2 cents in. Also it was only a month old, which isn't really that old. The warning for necro threads is 2 months. Hey... it's cool that you just found out about it and all, but at this point it has been hashed out to death already. | ||
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