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On February 26 2012 15:53 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 11:58 guN-viCe wrote:On February 26 2012 11:26 nShade wrote:
Zerg has the hardest macro mechanics... I can't agree with this. Injecting isn't hard. Larva is way more powerful than chono/mules. Make every unit from one building and hotkey.. MULEs are obviously the easiest of the three. I'd say that chrono boosting perfectly is harder than larva injecting, but larva injects are much more important lategame than chrono is. OT: really cool idea, though i can never get out of the habit of good ol' double tap hatch hotkey -> box -> v -> click -> repeat LOL
larva inject is practically all of zerg's macro mechanics, whereas mules is just small parts of terran. so not comparable
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I wonder if u could make a secondary left click hotkey as F4.
That way when u center ur mouse u can't mess up moving ur mouse and u don't need to time between ur two hands.
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Why repeating the selecting of the queens with F2?
Can't you just make F1 selecting queens and F2 rotating camera? That way you only need to hit F1 once, no?
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On February 26 2012 18:25 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 15:53 synapse wrote:On February 26 2012 11:58 guN-viCe wrote:On February 26 2012 11:26 nShade wrote:
Zerg has the hardest macro mechanics... I can't agree with this. Injecting isn't hard. Larva is way more powerful than chono/mules. Make every unit from one building and hotkey.. MULEs are obviously the easiest of the three. I'd say that chrono boosting perfectly is harder than larva injecting, but larva injects are much more important lategame than chrono is. OT: really cool idea, though i can never get out of the habit of good ol' double tap hatch hotkey -> box -> v -> click -> repeat LOL larva inject is practically all of zerg's macro mechanics, whereas mules is just small parts of terran. so not comparable
Terran macro is probably the least intuitive, no tiers, different add ons, wide array of different buildings. Where as zerg seems to be the most intuitive, every ''tier'' you unlock more buildings/units, everything made out of 1 building, once you get down when to make units/drones, which is hard until you have experience with what amount of units your enemy can have at what point in the game. Terran macro requires more button presses aswell, also you get punished the hardest for supply blocks. Idk, they are just completely different, not comparable.
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You can't rebind hotkeys in a tournament play, right?
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I thought problem with injects is to remember about not missing them, not actually doing them...
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And whats special here?
I have all queens on horyzontal scroll wheel click, cycle camera bases on spacebar and select injection ability on ~. Same method, but more comfortable. For my small keyboard (compact size) it's very comfort to use F1-F2-F3 hotkeys for special abilities for units, like transfuse, creep-tumor and burrow.
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On February 26 2012 19:38 Leetley wrote:
You can't rebind hotkeys in a tournament play, right?
yes ofc you can repind hotkeys. Anything that works in the game you can do (except bugs ofc).
OT: This feels kinda.. hmm... zerg already only have one macro mechanics to do, and it get easier and easier. Dont really like where its going.
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what if you got 7 bases and 4 queens? does this still works?
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On February 26 2012 20:03 sabas123 wrote:
what if you got 7 bases and 4 queens? does this still works?
Just don't left click on the bases that don't have a queen.
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On February 26 2012 19:38 Leetley wrote:
You can't rebind hotkeys in a tournament play, right?
I recently read the MLG rules for the Winter Arena, and they seem to prohibit changing mouse or keyboard driver settings, so setups such as mousewheel scroll clicking would not be allowed, but any simple keybind changes done within the game are fine, and in fact, not something a tournament could do much about, as they are stored on Battle.net anyways.
I think it's stupid for even MLG not to allow the driver changes, as I think optimizing your configuration is part of what goes into the competition, and ultimately raises the level of gameplay. But whatever. Probably at some point in the future, such changes will be more acceptable.
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I switched my backspace key to ` and all I have to do is `v click `v click `v click done takes like a second or 2
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This is ridiculous, people have been using this method for at least a year by now. Let me repeat what Hairy wrote:
THE METHOD DESCRIBED IN THE OPENING POST IS JUST THE 'BACKSPACE METHOD', BUT USING FAR MORE KEYPRESSES TO ACHIEVE THE SAME RESULT.
And this method does STILL have a lot problems. Sure, if you have one Queen per base and those Queens are all within the right location, just next to their hatch and are not involved in battling, then that method works fabulous.
Once however, you have too few queens, you have to fight with your queens etc. this becomes a pain in the ass to use. Which is why it's important to just do it normally in those times. Of course if possible, have as many hatch locations saved with Camera binds.
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Don't see the differenz to the methode i use, which is known since nearly a year:
Select all Queens, hold the injectbutton
Then press the button for cycling through hatches (first hatch is at center of screen) and hit mouse button. Repeat that until everything is injected.
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Actually it's not that bad an idea, though for some who doesn't use the select hatch thing, and rather has all hatcheries on one hotkey... I think that I'll change the larva inject hotkey to a hotkey that's closer to 5, 6, 7, 8 (which are queen control groups). Good idea mate.
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I stopped playing almost a year ago, and I used a method very similar to this one. only with different keys instead of F1,2 and 3
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On February 26 2012 18:36 ejozl wrote:
I wonder if u could make a secondary left click hotkey as F4.
That way when u center ur mouse u can't mess up moving ur mouse and u don't need to time between ur two hands.
that would be so sick
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this is pretty ingenious method, I'll probably be trying this out the next time I off race as z. I think the best part about this is that you don't have to just use the f-keys (a lot of people use those keys for camera locations already) to do this but any three keys that are next to each other (unless I'm missing out on a reason why that wouldn't be possible).
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Nice method! I'll definitly trying it out as soon as I get home from work =D
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It's like backspace inject but requires way more actions... so yeah, it has all the bad aspects of backspace inject (queens running all over the place, no way to specify if you only want to inject a few of your bases) while also being much slower.
Darkgrid style >>>>> this.
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