while epm is not effected by that change since its new and something completly diffrent, so if you compare the epm to the old apm im pretty sure that your epm will be lower.
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gubbstrut
Sweden39 Posts
while epm is not effected by that change since its new and something completly diffrent, so if you compare the epm to the old apm im pretty sure that your epm will be lower. | ||
neverlast
Austria62 Posts
unless I am wrong but spamming waypoints (units or buildings) counted in both APM and EPM. I think is a rollback change to the old apm, right? Name of Action --------------------- (APM & EPM) move units------------------------------ (APM & EPM) move unit with minimap------------ (APM & EPM) waypoint set with mouse---------- (APM & EPM) defining controlgroups ------------------------- (only EPM) tabbing controlgroups------------------------- (only EPM) boxing something------------------------------- (only EPM) select unit with mouse------------------------- (only EPM) minmap click view change-------------not tracked set viewpoints------------------------------not tracked swap viewpoints---------------------------not tracked mouse scrolling ---------------------------not tracked | ||
OutofmymindSC2
Bulgaria80 Posts
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
- A minute consists of 60 seconds? NO! We have the blizzard minute, because SC2 is not being played in normal time! Seriously, that's complete bullshit. - APM / EPM / WTFPM? Why don't you just count every click per minute and call it APM? Because an action is an action, even if it's useless. Of course, an EAPM calculation can be added to spice it up. (I think the SC2Gears APM stuff is pretty accurate) | ||
Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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perestain
Germany308 Posts
The idea of APM is actions per minute, which just means how many keys are pressed per time. It is a value that can be measured exactly, and people generally know how to interpret it. A c t i o n s P e r M i n u t e. Just like miles per hour. Not that complicated, right? I dont know which nutjob got the shitty idea to try to invent an algorithm which decides which of the actions are likely to be effective for winning and which aren't. Its completely a matter of opinion and therefore bullshit trying to objectively measure that. The blizzard time made the numbers of normal apm too small by a factor of 1.4, but it was still an exact measurement. Not nice, but bearable. The blizzard new apm however, is just a number without meaning that some shitty algorithm generates. Everyody just has 80 Blizzard apm, from gold to grandmaster. And then they sell it as "APM" which it clearly isn't. It is not even a measure. It is APM folded by some glitchy algorithm which results in a number around 80 every time. Think of a broken guitar effects pedal that takes your guitar signal and just produces that one single annyoing noise and nothing else. Thats what blizzard apm is. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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nface
106 Posts
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perestain
Germany308 Posts
On March 01 2012 21:17 Shellshock1122 wrote: APM is just spam. I played a 2v2 with my friend where I just shared unit control and spammed so I had 1023 apm for a match but only 9 epm. EPM is basically the measure of what you're actually doing No it isnt. Since you cannot define what actions should be considered effective (because different people have different opinions on that) any algorithm that claims to correctly decide this must be bullshit. apm does not differentiate if you spam or do something worthwile, but at least it is an exact measurement of how many keys you are able to press. epm (which is called "apm" ingame btw) is just an arbitrary number which tells you nothing. Especially not what you're doing or how you're doing. | ||
kcbgoku
Poland156 Posts
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blamekilly
466 Posts
On February 22 2012 06:58 Agamo wrote: Im just asking the difference, and which one is more important and which one i should be paying attention to. I am a gold level player with 80 ish apm and 88ish epm nad am very confused about it after new patch Thanks! If you have 80 apm/epm and still gold, you need to slow it down and focus more on the game. heck I have 60-100 and in low masters. I don't spam buttons all game long tho, some people do that to inflate their numbers. | ||
xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
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RaiD.RaynoR
United States294 Posts
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gabbegubbe
Sweden67 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On March 02 2012 00:18 gabbegubbe wrote: My EPM is constantly higher than my APM. That can't be right. I'm on a mac so it might be something wrong with the patch on the osx? no blizzard screwed up and made EPM the one that is actual apm. I have like 70-80 apm and 190+ EPM | ||
Vul
United States685 Posts
The important thing about Blizz APM is that neither one of them are actually APM because neither one of them is actually measured by minutes or seconds, but by a unit of time which Blizzard actually made up. Wish I were kidding about that | ||
Petrone
Sweden47 Posts
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Please. Stop. Making. These. | ||
Striker.superfreunde
Germany1119 Posts
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Altern
United States1053 Posts
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