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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
February 14 2012 10:15 GMT
#2041
I bought MLG gold membership under the impression I would have access to everything, but now I have to pay extra for this? That feels very wrong. It also does not seem like the way forward, as far as I know this is the only event that does not offer a free stream. So unexpected.

I'm not angry but very disapointed. Will not pay, will watch assembly instead.
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
February 14 2012 10:16 GMT
#2042
I don't have enough spare cash to burn $20 on one tournament.

But I'm glad the main tournament weekends will still be free. If MLG wants to introduce a few new pay-only tournaments then that's fine with me. I just think $20 is a bit too much to ask for.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
February 14 2012 10:17 GMT
#2043
Not gonna pay to watch sc2, ever
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
February 14 2012 10:17 GMT
#2044
I'm down with this. People should see that this isn't about MLG being greedy but finally trying to turn a profit instead, along with making itself grow. The added income for ppv should allow them to make some pretty intense changes by 2013
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
February 14 2012 10:17 GMT
#2045
On February 14 2012 19:04 Ouga wrote:
Doubt they had options there, sponsors probably forced to try this. But indeed this has to fail hard considering how the other big event is scheduled at same time, which doesn't cost anything.


sponors want as much exposure as possible. Cutting the viewercount by 80% cannot be in the interest of any of their sponsors.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
February 14 2012 10:18 GMT
#2046
On February 14 2012 19:00 Muffel wrote:
I dont understand the people who say "Well i think its to much but i will buy it anyways"
Everyone who buys the 20dollar pass is just telling mlg indirectly "Hey guys you can do that. you can take 20 bucks for a qualifier. "
they dont care if you dont like it as long as you pay.
so if you dont want the future with every big event (not just MLG) beeing 20dollar PPV, than buy it.
if this mlg arena with 20dollar is a success then every other major event will think about making their event ppv aswell.

well i think the idea of this was:
now nobody will complain about the extended series anymore! :D


I agree, if MLG succeed with PPV, we will see Dreamhack, IPL, ESL, GSL and others going for the same business model.

I would react to this differently, but MLG tactics and marketing tricks are abusive. They announced Winter Arena like 3 weeks ago and there was nothing about PPV nor that Arena events will NOT BE part of pro circuit, now right before tournament they announced this. Misleading and keeping vital information from customers, all of a sudden people that bought MLG GOLD are getting info that their pass doesn't include 7 big events in 2012.

I got NBA League Pass, 6 months of content, 10h+ of matches a day for 140$... Starcraft 2 is way to small to pay 20$ for 2 days, and not allowing free lq stream with ads.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
February 14 2012 10:18 GMT
#2047
On February 14 2012 19:03 Velr wrote:
Actually your supporting extended series by paying this.

THINK ABOUT IT! :D


well shit looks like I'm buying
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 10:18:49
February 14 2012 10:18 GMT
#2048
me not like but whatever, lets go for it!
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 10:18:51
February 14 2012 10:18 GMT
#2049
On February 14 2012 19:17 Stropheum wrote:
I'm down with this. People should see that this isn't about MLG being greedy but finally trying to turn a profit instead, along with making itself grow. The added income for ppv should allow them to make some pretty intense changes by 2013


Or we just all watch Assembly, which tells Asus that SC2 is awesome which will lead to making their tournament even bigger.


One of the 2 things costs 20$, the other one is free.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 10:21:31
February 14 2012 10:20 GMT
#2050
Lol it's a ridiculously ugly state of affairs when people feel SUCH a sense of entitlement to something which takes huge effort, and tons of money to put on, that they get actually angry and feel aggrieved when then have to pay for it!

Everyone complaining in this thread should be ashamed of yourselves- organisations need money to survive. Why shouldn't you, the consumer, give them some? I agree, they should offer low-quality with ads, but at the end of the day paying $20 isn't going to kill you, and if everyone did it then there would certainly be many more events to come.
EleGant[AoV]
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
February 14 2012 10:21 GMT
#2051
On February 14 2012 19:18 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 19:17 Stropheum wrote:
I'm down with this. People should see that this isn't about MLG being greedy but finally trying to turn a profit instead, along with making itself grow. The added income for ppv should allow them to make some pretty intense changes by 2013


Or we just all watch Assembly, which tells Asus that SC2 is awesome which will lead to making their tournament even bigger.


One of the 2 things costs 20$, the other one is free.


or watch both?
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 14 2012 10:21 GMT
#2052
I would pay that if I thought its gonna be worth it. I don't.

There's so many good sc2 tournaments that I can't even watch all of them anyway.
Revolutionist fan
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
February 14 2012 10:21 GMT
#2053
Because we don't care enough and there are other alternatives?
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
February 14 2012 10:22 GMT
#2054
Don't care enough to support the game and therefore the gamers whom you claim you're interested in? Wow, selfish...
EleGant[AoV]
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
February 14 2012 10:23 GMT
#2055
On February 14 2012 19:20 ImbaTosS wrote:
Everyone complaining in this thread should be ashamed of yourselves- organisations need money to survive. Why shouldn't you, the consumer, give them some?

some is the right word. 20 bucks for a few BO3s that a guy from Europe can watch is not some..
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
makk
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
February 14 2012 10:23 GMT
#2056
On February 14 2012 19:17 krisss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 19:04 Ouga wrote:
Doubt they had options there, sponsors probably forced to try this. But indeed this has to fail hard considering how the other big event is scheduled at same time, which doesn't cost anything.


sponors want as much exposure as possible. Cutting the viewercount by 80% cannot be in the interest of any of their sponsors.


Well at least their ads will be targeted at people with disposable income. Which would probably be good for the sponsors because their ads will be more targeted so they would have to pay less but that would also mean less money for MLG...
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 14 2012 10:24 GMT
#2057
I have $16 to my name. Even if I had enough money to pay for this MLG, I don't find it financially worth it as MLG is too many games in a short period of times with incredibly long breaks between games. My budget for Sc2 viewing is pretty much reserved for GSL, so I guess if I watch Sc2 that weekend I'll watch Assembly.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
February 14 2012 10:24 GMT
#2058
On February 14 2012 19:21 Velr wrote:
Because we don't care enough and there are other alternatives?


Some ppl care and Some ppl dont. There may be alternatives but they don't have the same hype/casters and player pool as MLG.
Necca
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany43 Posts
February 14 2012 10:24 GMT
#2059
As a student 20 $ is way to much for a weekend of SC2. I gladly bought IPL and all HomeStoryCup HD Streams (beside there were free streams), but 20 $ for 3 Days?

krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
February 14 2012 10:24 GMT
#2060
On February 14 2012 19:22 ImbaTosS wrote:
Don't care enough to support the game and therefore the gamers whom you claim you're interested in? Wow, selfish...

Have u seen the prizemoney? 20 bucks per viewer for this prize money? rofl. even the players themselves seem to get treated like slaves by MLG.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
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