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Azhrei16
United States284 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:11 TheV wrote: Aren't Phoenixes going to be able to pick up workers from waaaay far away from the mineral line? I am afraid of them phoenixes avoiding my spore crawlers and still picking up workers. The range upgrade I assume will be for their main attack only. Not their graviton beam. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:11 Azhrei16 wrote: I wish they would just put the Void Ray speed upgrade and Phoenix +range upgrade on the Stargate x_x Best place to put it is where the other low-tier air upgrades are: The cybernetics core. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:07 mvtaylor wrote: Getting back to "dominance"... it doesn't really exist any more, Jjakji and MVP have won four GSLs combined and both got eliminated in the ro16. The nerfs to Terran from the last four/five patches are getting really annoying to deal with so a double Terran nerf and a Protoss buff is just, ARRARGH. ... MVP lost in TvT's, most due to his CTS problems flaring up. Jjakji lost in TvP's, but these Terran nerfs do nothing in that matchup, as others have stated. Gold bases are already non-existent in the GSL, and Snipes actually do +5 damage to many Protoss units now (Terrans only snipe Templars anyways...EMP is more effective for everything else). | ||
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Leetley
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
While I agree on nerfing snipe to some extent (like 10-15 damage) this just seems like an overkill. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
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AKomrade
United States582 Posts
Seriously good patch notes regardless though. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
I'm in love with DAVID KIM, NAO!! GG! | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:07 venage wrote: When was the last time terran had a buff? TTQQ Given that Terrans have had a positive winratio in TvZ since the release of the game, why would they need a buff for it? -.- | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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weikor
Austria580 Posts
Snipe change is good for ultras / broodlord, but i feel that snipe NEEDS to 3 shot zealots, 1 shot non combat shield marines, banelings and zerglings and 2 shot hydras. unless david wants to make snipe an "only Caster ability", in wich case it should probably work on ravens too | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
The snipe change is completely unwarranted and makes tvz lategame almost impossible to win. I'm not going to be bothered to try anymore playing lategame against protoss and zerg. It's too hard, i'm done for. Zerg it is. Trying to climb my way back to high master with zerg should be fun | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:13 Azhrei16 wrote: The range upgrade I assume will be for their main attack only. Not their graviton beam. Yeah, where'd ya get that idea from? -.- | ||
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tomnov
Israel148 Posts
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Goldbullet
United States88 Posts
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:04 Crisium wrote: I miss when things were done in moderation. Both the ghost snipe nerf and the Phoenix range buff are massive changes. If snipe did 35 or 30 damage, it would still take more hits, but it would be more in line with David Kim saying they are "Slightly" too powerful. I agree with awesomoecalypse that the Phoenix upgrade is huuuuge. Phoenix are now, effectively, completely invincible against Mutas. Sure the Zerg can throw in a couple Corrupters, but they do such low damage and are so slow that the Phoenix's can still kill all the mutas before they take significant damage from the Corrupters. So what are you going to do in the meantime? You know, while you're waiting for a 300/200 structure to complete, and then waiting for a 100/100 or more upgrade to finish? That's a pretty big timing attack window. Can you afford to defend from the Zerg with an army that's 300+ gas smaller? I wouldn't be so sure. Oh, once it's done, you can make Mutalisks go away. But then their ground army comes over and kills you. | ||
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NewK
Sweden63 Posts
On February 11 2012 02:42 Avril_Lavigne wrote: this is quite true. isn't the ghost attack 20 vs light? and snipe is 25 damage? LOL?? It's obvious they don't want snipe to be used to damage beefy units anymore. They want it to be used to snipe casters (seeing as all t2 casters are psionic). I find it sort of weird that they're removing the ghost for TvZ yet not nerfing something in Zerg in return... I'd expect something like.. idk. Giving vikings a reduced damage taken against fungal buff or something. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:11 TheV wrote: Aren't Phoenixes going to be able to pick up workers from waaaay far away from the mineral line? I am afraid of them phoenixes avoiding my spore crawlers and still picking up workers. it needa a fleet beacon and nobody is going to be makin that many phoenixes in the lategame | ||
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Azhrei16
United States284 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:13 willoc wrote: Best place to put it is where the other low-tier air upgrades are: The cybernetics core. Yeah but then I could see Protoss creating some new stupid all-in with speed void rays and 6 range phoenix wiping out every overlord on the map without getting hit  | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
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