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On February 10 2012 00:32 tryteyker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 22:10 Mr.X546 wrote:On February 09 2012 19:06 tryteyker wrote:On February 09 2012 17:26 Mr.X546 wrote:On February 09 2012 17:13 tryteyker wrote:
Do you guys have any useful tips when I want to start with Random? (I've been playing with Terran, Protoss and a bit with Zerg but I sturggle mostly with Zerg) Fix different hotkeys set-ups for all the three races. i.e. change hotkey profile everytime you play a new race. Why? :S I'm pretty comfortable with 123 Army, 4 CC/Nexus/Hatches, 5 Rax/Gateway/2nd Hatch, 6 Robotics/Factory/3rd Hatch and 7-9 Upgrade Structures Good, I just know that I had hard reaching 6 and beyond, so I rehotkeyed them to other buttons. Also, used backspace-method with Zerg for larvae spawning etc., not really compatible while playing Protoss and Terran :D Anyway, I used to play random, but got kinda bored with it. Reason being there were some match-ups which I did not like (ZvZ, PvT). It can quickly deter you from playing random, so I suggest focusing on developing specific match-ups more, like grind them out. Ofc, play random from time to time to keep all match-ups fresh, but if you hit a block in a match-up, sit down and work the problem out, in whatever way you choose. Also, use the random attribute to your strength. I mean all-ins/cheese. I would not use it on ladder (kinda useless imo) but when playing BoXs etc. Well I like playing all 3 races after all but it might be better to just focus on 1 race (I'm mainly Toss atm) as you said.
Well, personally play random, I would recommend you do like 1 day or 1 week if you dont play as much as each race. Try to just choose which race you feel like playing at the moment and just grind a bit with that.
I would say that the only real disadvantage you get from playing random is that its harder to get the narrow understanding of each match up. I cant for one remember most timings for all three races, so that defienetly is a disadvantage :D
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On February 11 2012 20:12 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:48 wklbishop wrote:
Hmm, lately my hands have been shaking each time I play 10 minutes into a game. Normally I'd attribute it to adrenaline or something, but it's a new thing so it's odd for me. And my hands feels numb and I can barely control them with the numbing lasting a bit afterwards.
Anyone got an idea as to how to remedy this? Are you at all anxious etc while playing, do they sweat or go cold? hand shaking seems pretty common.
THanks for the reply.
But I don't sweat or go cold. Hmmm. Well, it should be fine as long as I don't feel too much pain I suppose.
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I have a huge problem... I'm not a noob/newb, by any means. I know and understand the game as much as a silver player, and my skill is pretty good. But I was placed in bronze in season 1. I was initially gold, but took a long break and got reranked to bronze in 4v4/3v3...
It's like i'm in a black hole I can't get out of. I'm constantly being matched up with the stupidest/worst players in known existence, and I clearly don't belong here. A master has been teaching me for a few weeks, and my skill has drastically gone up. i 1v1 gold players and beat them, even though my 1v1 is bronze (black hole, can't escape...)
But my goal is to get to silver/gold in 4v4... I'm so good at 4v4, my macro is incredible... but I get the WORST partners. Examples of worst partners:
-Cannon rush, fail then quit
-Don't know what "banelings" are and therefore don't make them when enemy makes mass rines..
-try to mass one unit and make no army the entire game
-I had a guy PREACH THE BIBLE and refuse to play and fight on our team, and refused to leave. He claimed he refused to participate in violence, and we should all love each other
-Team killers, who tech up and then decide to kill you.
But I've noticed that I'm pitted against much diversity. I face off against golds, silvers... And I'm on the score sheet at the top of almost EVERY game. But I'm not just going off of that, of course not. I also top the "army" and "resources" graphs due to exceptional Macro. But why do I lose? Well for one, I can sweep in and kill one or two of the enemy players in any given 4v4, and all 3 of my other allies are doing god knows what... and the other 2-3 enemy's left will have massed something that completely counters MY army. Such as mass voids/carriers/archons... Mass marines, mass colossi, etc. I can't possibly consider winning 40-50 matches 1v4, which is usually what it feels like I'm playing...
So my question...? How do I get out of this bronze blackhole, considering my skill is growing exponentially (as stated, master is teaching me and I'm learning more than a bronze should know...) ?? am I going to be stuck here forever?
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Random question about how the TLPD stats for progamers work: Why aren't games from stuff like the KSL or the FXOpen Invitationals included?
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On February 12 2012 05:54 SCVerdict wrote:
I have a huge problem... I'm not a noob/newb, by any means. I know and understand the game as much as a silver player, and my skill is pretty good. But I was placed in bronze in season 1. I was initially gold, but took a long break and got reranked to bronze in 4v4/3v3...
It's like i'm in a black hole I can't get out of. I'm constantly being matched up with the stupidest/worst players in known existence, and I clearly don't belong here. A master has been teaching me for a few weeks, and my skill has drastically gone up. i 1v1 gold players and beat them, even though my 1v1 is bronze (black hole, can't escape...)
But my goal is to get to silver/gold in 4v4... I'm so good at 4v4, my macro is incredible... but I get the WORST partners. Examples of worst partners:
-Cannon rush, fail then quit
-Don't know what "banelings" are and therefore don't make them when enemy makes mass rines..
-try to mass one unit and make no army the entire game
-I had a guy PREACH THE BIBLE and refuse to play and fight on our team, and refused to leave. He claimed he refused to participate in violence, and we should all love each other
-Team killers, who tech up and then decide to kill you.
But I've noticed that I'm pitted against much diversity. I face off against golds, silvers... And I'm on the score sheet at the top of almost EVERY game. But I'm not just going off of that, of course not. I also top the "army" and "resources" graphs due to exceptional Macro. But why do I lose? Well for one, I can sweep in and kill one or two of the enemy players in any given 4v4, and all 3 of my other allies are doing god knows what... and the other 2-3 enemy's left will have massed something that completely counters MY army. Such as mass voids/carriers/archons... Mass marines, mass colossi, etc. I can't possibly consider winning 40-50 matches 1v4, which is usually what it feels like I'm playing...
So my question...? How do I get out of this bronze blackhole, considering my skill is growing exponentially (as stated, master is teaching me and I'm learning more than a bronze should know...) ?? am I going to be stuck here forever?
I hate to demoralise you on your first post, but I only play 4v4 when I'm super messed up most likely the people you're playing with are fucking around too because 4v4 is not a real game mode. Secondly, when in bronze don't talk about how you're so much better than people. it's kind of embarrassing. I totally understand what you're going through, I had the same feeling when bought the game in season 4. If you're losing enough in Bronze you won't get promoted. I was playing 2-3 games per week or two after the game had been out for a year and I got out of it after a while by winning more games than i lost. (the irony of it all is I got promoted from Bronze to Silver and Silver to Gold by defending two cannon rushes)
edit: although if you couldn't spot the dude preaching the bible at you in a starcraft game as a troll theres probably no hope for you as an online gamer.
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On February 12 2012 05:54 SCVerdict wrote:
I have a huge problem... I'm not a noob/newb, by any means. I know and understand the game as much as a silver player, and my skill is pretty good. But I was placed in bronze in season 1. I was initially gold, but took a long break and got reranked to bronze in 4v4/3v3...
It's like i'm in a black hole I can't get out of. I'm constantly being matched up with the stupidest/worst players in known existence, and I clearly don't belong here. A master has been teaching me for a few weeks, and my skill has drastically gone up. i 1v1 gold players and beat them, even though my 1v1 is bronze (black hole, can't escape...)
But my goal is to get to silver/gold in 4v4... I'm so good at 4v4, my macro is incredible... but I get the WORST partners. Examples of worst partners:
-Cannon rush, fail then quit
-Don't know what "banelings" are and therefore don't make them when enemy makes mass rines..
-try to mass one unit and make no army the entire game
-I had a guy PREACH THE BIBLE and refuse to play and fight on our team, and refused to leave. He claimed he refused to participate in violence, and we should all love each other
-Team killers, who tech up and then decide to kill you.
But I've noticed that I'm pitted against much diversity. I face off against golds, silvers... And I'm on the score sheet at the top of almost EVERY game. But I'm not just going off of that, of course not. I also top the "army" and "resources" graphs due to exceptional Macro. But why do I lose? Well for one, I can sweep in and kill one or two of the enemy players in any given 4v4, and all 3 of my other allies are doing god knows what... and the other 2-3 enemy's left will have massed something that completely counters MY army. Such as mass voids/carriers/archons... Mass marines, mass colossi, etc. I can't possibly consider winning 40-50 matches 1v4, which is usually what it feels like I'm playing...
So my question...? How do I get out of this bronze blackhole, considering my skill is growing exponentially (as stated, master is teaching me and I'm learning more than a bronze should know...) ?? am I going to be stuck here forever?
just how it is in bronze league. 4v4 at any level has cheese in it, they are just rush based games. if you really think your issue is your allies, then get a couple of mates and play some games with them. if you guys keep losing, then there is more to your problem then just your allies.
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I saw Liquid Hero play a PvZ on his stream, early January(around the 3rd I think). It was on Shakuras against a zerg called DeParture and it was just such an amazing game, at least 40 minutes long. I looked through the VODS of his stream but it looks like the VOD was removed because I couldn't find it. So I was hoping that someone had a link to the VOD/replay, this game can't be forever lost.
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France1919 Posts
I'm lazy as fuck and my english suck, plz someone make a thread with a poll to ask opinions about adding chat channel restriction by leagues to battlenet like in iccup.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 12 2012 05:54 SCVerdict wrote:
I have a huge problem... I'm not a noob/newb, by any means. I know and understand the game as much as a silver player, and my skill is pretty good. But I was placed in bronze in season 1. I was initially gold, but took a long break and got reranked to bronze in 4v4/3v3...
It's like i'm in a black hole I can't get out of. I'm constantly being matched up with the stupidest/worst players in known existence, and I clearly don't belong here. A master has been teaching me for a few weeks, and my skill has drastically gone up. i 1v1 gold players and beat them, even though my 1v1 is bronze (black hole, can't escape...)
But my goal is to get to silver/gold in 4v4... I'm so good at 4v4, my macro is incredible... but I get the WORST partners. Examples of worst partners:
-Cannon rush, fail then quit
-Don't know what "banelings" are and therefore don't make them when enemy makes mass rines..
-try to mass one unit and make no army the entire game
-I had a guy PREACH THE BIBLE and refuse to play and fight on our team, and refused to leave. He claimed he refused to participate in violence, and we should all love each other
-Team killers, who tech up and then decide to kill you.
But I've noticed that I'm pitted against much diversity. I face off against golds, silvers... And I'm on the score sheet at the top of almost EVERY game. But I'm not just going off of that, of course not. I also top the "army" and "resources" graphs due to exceptional Macro. But why do I lose? Well for one, I can sweep in and kill one or two of the enemy players in any given 4v4, and all 3 of my other allies are doing god knows what... and the other 2-3 enemy's left will have massed something that completely counters MY army. Such as mass voids/carriers/archons... Mass marines, mass colossi, etc. I can't possibly consider winning 40-50 matches 1v4, which is usually what it feels like I'm playing...
So my question...? How do I get out of this bronze blackhole, considering my skill is growing exponentially (as stated, master is teaching me and I'm learning more than a bronze should know...) ?? am I going to be stuck here forever?
Wow, you're a pretty special case.
Either you're a troll, or you live in a very special world. I'll assume the latter. 
I'm just gonna break you down and build you up again, because you have a serious attitude problem.
You probably are very terrible. Well, not even probably, I'm really sure you are terrible, you have 'Silver Level Knowledge', you are supposed to use such a statement to admit that you are terrible, but instead of that you see it as a pro. Your macro would be 'incredible' I find it just so cute to see someone make such bold statements.
Please post a replay, because I'm 100% sure that you are a very bad player and that you are in just the right spot where you should be. You have the highest score in 4v4 every time because you probably FE and play very greedy, you lose every time they push early, but when they don't, you have a 'sick macro economy'. Also, people don't play 4v4 as a serious match, people play it to troll and relax.
tl;dr: You are terrible, you have an attitude problem, bronze is just right for you.
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United States4 Posts
Hi this is my first post on liquipedia
I am a protoss player in silver league (obviously not good) Im having issues in the late game vs terran due to ghosts. I feel that I cant counter them with HTs due to vikings in the air killing my Obs. Is this a general issue that pros are still trying to figure a way around or am I just stuck dealing with my army automatically having half health when engaging a bio ball late game? Im not trying to troll or QQ if there is obviously a simple way around this please tell me.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 12 2012 20:38 Domadie wrote:
Hi this is my first post on liquipedia
I am a protoss player in silver league (obviously not good) Im having issues in the late game vs terran due to ghosts. I feel that I cant counter them with HTs due to vikings in the air killing my Obs. Is this a general issue that pros are still trying to figure a way around or am I just stuck dealing with my army automatically having half health when engaging a bio ball late game? Im not trying to troll or QQ if there is obviously a simple way around this please tell me.
Welcome!
These are the Team Liquid forums, not Liquipedia
As for you question, you want to ask such questions in the Strategy forums, and more specifically for your question Simple Questions, Simple Answers or the Protoss Help Me Thread.
I don't play protoss so I wouldn't know.
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United States4 Posts
thanks much ill repost in there
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Does anyone actually use the mobile authentication code app thing for their battle.net account? If so, opinions?
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Come join Stonedreaper, Toxic Toaster, Infested Atom, and Andyman for...
Bronze/Silver
Gold/Platinum
Diamond/Master/Grandmaster
Sunday Night Toasted Tourneys!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/atoasted_tv
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sure do hope idra wins something this month!
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On February 13 2012 14:21 heyitskez wrote:
sure do hope idra wins something this month!
He doesn't deserve it.
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Is there a website like sc2earnings.com for Broodwar?
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Is there anyway to be notified if someone replies directly to one of your posts here at TL? I see nothing in the profile page.
For some very active threads, it's quite hard to keep track of whether someone replied to something you said.
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On February 14 2012 02:11 GWBuffalo wrote:
Is there anyway to be notified if someone replies directly to one of your posts here at TL? I see nothing in the profile page.
For some very active threads, it's quite hard to keep track of whether someone replied to something you said.
Nope this is vBulletin, (I assume) doesn't work like that.
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On February 12 2012 05:54 SCVerdict wrote:
I have a huge problem... I'm not a noob/newb, by any means. I know and understand the game as much as a silver player, and my skill is pretty good. But I was placed in bronze in season 1. I was initially gold, but took a long break and got reranked to bronze in 4v4/3v3...
It's like i'm in a black hole I can't get out of. I'm constantly being matched up with the stupidest/worst players in known existence, and I clearly don't belong here. A master has been teaching me for a few weeks, and my skill has drastically gone up. i 1v1 gold players and beat them, even though my 1v1 is bronze (black hole, can't escape...)
But my goal is to get to silver/gold in 4v4... I'm so good at 4v4, my macro is incredible... but I get the WORST partners. Examples of worst partners:
-Cannon rush, fail then quit
-Don't know what "banelings" are and therefore don't make them when enemy makes mass rines..
-try to mass one unit and make no army the entire game
-I had a guy PREACH THE BIBLE and refuse to play and fight on our team, and refused to leave. He claimed he refused to participate in violence, and we should all love each other
-Team killers, who tech up and then decide to kill you.
But I've noticed that I'm pitted against much diversity. I face off against golds, silvers... And I'm on the score sheet at the top of almost EVERY game. But I'm not just going off of that, of course not. I also top the "army" and "resources" graphs due to exceptional Macro. But why do I lose? Well for one, I can sweep in and kill one or two of the enemy players in any given 4v4, and all 3 of my other allies are doing god knows what... and the other 2-3 enemy's left will have massed something that completely counters MY army. Such as mass voids/carriers/archons... Mass marines, mass colossi, etc. I can't possibly consider winning 40-50 matches 1v4, which is usually what it feels like I'm playing...
So my question...? How do I get out of this bronze blackhole, considering my skill is growing exponentially (as stated, master is teaching me and I'm learning more than a bronze should know...) ?? am I going to be stuck here forever?
Hey man dont do anything, its just those darn teammates keeping you down.
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