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Does the mouse scroll speed influence your micro?

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Sianos
Profile Joined April 2011
580 Posts
February 03 2012 14:35 GMT
#1
Hello,

lately i i´m playing arround with some settings and found out that the mouse scroll speed is quite low in SC2. I used the search function and found a poll, where most player ~ 46 % are playing with an mouse scroll speed over 75!!! Some people said, there is no reason why not to do it.

Does mouse scroll speed incluence the game that much?
What kind of advantages can you get with a higher mouse scroll speed?
Do you know what settings pros or high master player play?

I just tried to play at 50 mouse scroll speed, but you really have to play some games in order to get used to it. I don´t know whether i should invest some time in getting used to or just stay with the standard.

I´m currently high Diamond terran player on EU and engaging and managing battles is a big problem for me.

Would i get into the correct way, when i´m using me to high mouse scroll speed?

Thank you for reading it.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:41:45
February 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#2
If my mouse is too fast it's impossible for me to split marines at all :/

It shouldn't effect your macro at all tho, or are you a clicker? Just play at whatever mouse speed you're comfortable with. There are no right or wrong answers for questions about personal preference.

Edit: I just noticed that we're speaking about scroll speed.. Either way just use whatever you're comfortable with. Everyone is different, whatever works for someone else might not work for you.
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AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
February 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#3
You can just move faster with it higher, dunno why anyone would want to be slow.
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AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
February 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#4
On February 03 2012 23:37 namste wrote:
If my mouse is too fast it's impossible for me to split marines at all :/


I think you are mixing up scrolling speed with sensitivity, they are 2 different things.
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TimeRunnerS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Denmark164 Posts
February 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#5
If you get used to very fast mousespeed it will be to great effect when you micro.
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saer
Profile Joined March 2011
40 Posts
February 03 2012 14:46 GMT
#6
In general, the best players never scroll their screen. They use location hotkeys, building hotkeys, unit hotkeys, or click on the minimap in order to move around quickly and efficiently. Personally, as a mid master protoss, my mouse scroll speed is quite low (20%), if you're in a battle and you need to nudge the screen a bit, it'd be pretty counter productive if you accidentally scrolled far away from the battle without meaning to.

Pretty much, i don't think it's important what it is as long as you're used to it and don't have problems with it. Just keep in mind that clicking the minimap is almost always more efficient and will allow you to do more things faster (increasing your apm)
Scarbo
Profile Joined January 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:50:22
February 03 2012 14:48 GMT
#7
Higher is better in almost any situation. 100% FTW

As to using snapshot and group shortcuts: while this is true and very helpful, you can't just snapshot save everything you need to, and having a v fast scroll speed is actually better in micro since speed is key there. It sucks not to be able to get that unit that's out of the screen to do what you need it to do in time just because ur scroll is slow. But I guess to each it's own...
johax
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden165 Posts
February 03 2012 14:51 GMT
#8
It doesn't have to be super accurate since you only need to get your units within screen range with it. However I prefer middle mouse button ( at 100%) for slight adjusting of the camera. It feels more accurate and faster for me. I also don't need to move my mouse over the screen to go back should i scroll too far.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
February 03 2012 14:54 GMT
#9
I swapped recently from 53% to 70% and its worth getting used to the faster speed imo.
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di3alot
Profile Joined December 2011
172 Posts
February 03 2012 15:02 GMT
#10
On February 03 2012 23:51 johax wrote:
It doesn't have to be super accurate since you only need to get your units within screen range with it. However I prefer middle mouse button ( at 100%) for slight adjusting of the camera. It feels more accurate and faster for me. I also don't need to move my mouse over the screen to go back should i scroll too far.


do you know if you can go over 100% ?
im using the same technique but i always feel it could be faster
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
February 03 2012 15:09 GMT
#11
The poll:
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Poll: What's your Mouse Scroll Speed?

>75 (97)
 
48%

70-74 (21)
 
10%

20-24 (18)
 
9%

60-64 (14)
 
7%

50-54 (12)
 
6%

65-69 (10)
 
5%

40-44 (8)
 
4%

55-59 (7)
 
3%

45-49 (5)
 
2%

30-34 (4)
 
2%

35-39 (3)
 
1%

25-29 (2)
 
1%

201 total votes

Your vote: What's your Mouse Scroll Speed?

(Vote): 20-24
(Vote): 25-29
(Vote): 30-34
(Vote): 35-39
(Vote): 40-44
(Vote): 45-49
(Vote): 50-54
(Vote): 55-59
(Vote): 60-64
(Vote): 65-69
(Vote): 70-74
(Vote): >75


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sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 15:09:54
February 03 2012 15:09 GMT
#12
you shouldnt make multiples of 5 (40, 45, 50 etc.) because it influences something i cant remember and is wrong, i myself as master player use 53%, it also depends what mouse u use
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 03 2012 15:16 GMT
#13
I use 20% and people always call me crazy
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jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 15:23:11
February 03 2012 15:18 GMT
#14
it depends, some ppl are mass mini map clickers, and some are extremely fast scroll speed with less mini map clicks .

I make 2 examples. Take a look at when mouz.MANA plays on his stream, he is the player i would say relies alot on Scroll speed and has it very high to suit. I hardly ever see him using hotkeys to shuffle between his nexus's.


Then take a look at Stephano, whos scroll speed is around 30%, instead his dpi sensitivity is so high he's what i would call a mini map mouse clicker, Everything he does is threw the mini map and hes extremely fast with it, he never individually hotkeys his hatcherys, he puts them all one 1 control group and uses mini map to get to them, basically everything he does is threw the minimap.




Nestea's style uses 100% mouse scroll speed and uses mass hotkeys to get to his locations, he seems to be a hybrid of every technique.



so it really depends which style you want to get accustomed to and stick with it.
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
February 03 2012 15:21 GMT
#15
On February 04 2012 00:16 Pokebunny wrote:
I use 20% and people always call me crazy


Why do you use 20%? I know some people like longer mouse strides/movement but that seems crazy low.

As for me I am set on 80%
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
February 03 2012 15:21 GMT
#16
I use a very high mouse scroll speed, along with high mouse DPI (3200) but low in-game mouse sensitivity.

imo this is optimal for accuracy, no skipped pixels. The high mouse scroll speed helps me to get from point A to point B quickly whenever B is not available via hotkey. The only downside to it is that if you are inaccurate with your mouse and accidentally scroll the screen while trying to micro, it can mess you up. As long as you can avoid this, a higher mouse scroll speed is always better.
MeLttlPowny
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands21 Posts
February 03 2012 15:25 GMT
#17
Get the DPI as low as possible without getting annoyed by its slowness, best for more accuracy and micro
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 15:36:28
February 03 2012 15:28 GMT
#18
On February 04 2012 00:25 MeLttlPowny wrote:
Get the DPI as low as possible without getting annoyed by its slowness, best for more accuracy and micro



lol what? That is the opposite of true. High dpi low sensitivity is proven to be far superior to low dpi medium-high sensitivity.

The lower the dpi, the more likely it is that your mouse will skip pixels, expecially when moving quickly. Higher DPI makes your mouse move very quickly and hard to control, but via lowering in-game sensitivity you can have the same effective mouse speed but with higher dpi (better accuracy and fewer skipped pixels)



Think of it as this way, DPI is not what necessarily controls the *speed* of your mouse. That is what in-game mouse sensitivity slider is for.

DPI stands for dots per inch. The more dots per inch, the more accurately your mouse will translate its real movement through your cursor. Of course, having very high dots per inch will make it move faster, but you can very easily adjust the speed via in-game and windows speed settings. This does not affect the dots per inch sensed by the laser of the mouse.

I feel like a lot of people are confused since they use their mouse DPI as a measure for speed, which is the wrong approach. The idea is to find a mouse speed you are comfortable with, then get your DPI as high as possible while adjusting in-game sensitivity to maintain the speed you are accustomed to. Voila! you now have a comfortable speed with improved precision.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
February 03 2012 15:38 GMT
#19
Are people really this ignorrant to the difference between mouse scroll speed and mouse sensitivy?

I play zerg so I scroll between my main and natural, but if i'm moving the screen any further I click the mini map. Although, when I'm playing 4v4 I usually play terran and find the F keys extremely useful for making buildings and such.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 03 2012 15:54 GMT
#20
20% person as well, camera posis n minimap. scrolling is venom for micro.
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