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BicBootyBoi
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada38 Posts
February 06 2012 04:11 GMT
#341
Woot woot, recently starting about when the season would lock and when I would get promoted into diamond :D and it seems that it'll happen next week :D:D
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 04:21:41
February 06 2012 04:21 GMT
#342
Hope I can get into platinum league this next season. I'm high gold and I'm always on the verge of being promoted, but have yet to do so. Maybe this will be my season!
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
February 06 2012 10:09 GMT
#343
Tonight was the worse night to have a losing streak. Worse.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
tryteyker
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany83 Posts
February 06 2012 12:40 GMT
#344
Side Question; If I'm High Bronze (Rank 3), is it possible to get promoted into Gold next season, as I only have 1 placement match (afaik)?
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 06 2012 12:42 GMT
#345
On February 06 2012 21:40 tryteyker wrote:
Side Question; If I'm High Bronze (Rank 3), is it possible to get promoted into Gold next season, as I only have 1 placement match (afaik)?

Depends on your MMR. I think it's possible, but you would need an insane MMR and be beating gold players on a regular basis atm.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
February 06 2012 12:43 GMT
#346
On February 06 2012 21:40 tryteyker wrote:
Side Question; If I'm High Bronze (Rank 3), is it possible to get promoted into Gold next season, as I only have 1 placement match (afaik)?

You'd have to play constantly against gold players and beat them all the time.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
February 06 2012 12:56 GMT
#347
On February 06 2012 21:43 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 21:40 tryteyker wrote:
Side Question; If I'm High Bronze (Rank 3), is it possible to get promoted into Gold next season, as I only have 1 placement match (afaik)?

You'd have to play constantly against gold players and beat them all the time.


Not true.
You'd only need a 50/50 win/loss ratio against gold players. That would qualify you for Gold league.
So if you keep playing well during the final week of Season 5 and are matched against Gold players a lot your MMR could be high enough to be promoted into Gold with your placement match in Season 6.
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PandaTank
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa255 Posts
February 06 2012 18:43 GMT
#348
After the ladder is locked tomorrow, do all changes in points\MMR have no further affect on what league you get placed into next season? I ask this because it says "One way to almost guarantee a promotion by next season is to earn the number of division ladder points given in the corresponding table entry below by February 7". So tomorrow is basically the cut off point? And does that only apply to bronze through masters. Or GM as well? Or is GM entries calculated after a new season starts? Thanks in advance if anyone knows the answer.
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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
February 06 2012 19:02 GMT
#349
it means you cant get promoted until after the new season but you can still get the required points after tomorrow
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
February 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#350
I didn't even play season 5 because I was pretty much travelling the whole time.....sad panda face ㅠㅠ

On other news...Im home on the reset with no job and no plans.....
Kambei
Profile Joined February 2012
United States3 Posts
February 06 2012 19:11 GMT
#351
Just got promoted early this morning at around 2:00 AM ! Masters ftw! Now time to use up my bonus pool.
The definition of insanity is doing a different thing over and over and expecting different results.
PandaTank
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa255 Posts
February 06 2012 19:12 GMT
#352
On February 07 2012 04:02 TheResidentEvil wrote:
it means you cant get promoted until after the new season but you can still get the required points after tomorrow


Why does it say BY february 7th then?
facebook.com/PandaTank \\\ @PandaTankSC2
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 06 2012 19:12 GMT
#353
I wish the seasons were a little bit longer. At least I reached my goal for this season, so I'm happy. I think the only way I can get in to GM next season is if they keep it the way it is lol. I don't really care though, it's just a number anyways.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 19:16:20
February 06 2012 19:15 GMT
#354
On February 07 2012 04:12 PandaTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 04:02 TheResidentEvil wrote:
it means you cant get promoted until after the new season but you can still get the required points after tomorrow


Why does it say BY february 7th then?


If you get the points by Feb. 7 you should get promoted. Since the ladder locks Feb. 7, you won't get promoted after that date even if you get those number of points of higher. However, your MMR still changes during the lock.

For example, it is possible to get your MMR to the promotion level on Feb. 8 but you won't know you've reached that point until you play your placement match the next season - which should place you in the next league up.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
February 06 2012 19:19 GMT
#355
On February 07 2012 04:12 PandaTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 04:02 TheResidentEvil wrote:
it means you cant get promoted until after the new season but you can still get the required points after tomorrow


Why does it say BY february 7th then?


Because the bonus pool stops growing when the ladder locks, so in terms of league promotions. 700 points on the 7th = 700 points on the 14th. On the 1st of February your bonus pool was smaller so you would have needed a much higher win ratio to get 700 points.

It seems like poor wording on Blizzards part, I think that they put it like that so people (dumb people) wouldn't think they had to have 700 points in the first week of the season to have any chance at a promotion. Because before the bonus pool is big enough that's pretty impossible.
PandaTank
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa255 Posts
February 06 2012 19:20 GMT
#356
Oh ok, thanks Charger. The wording was confusing me. I looked through the thread and saw Jinro asked the same question.
I got more than the required points and I still didn't get promoted. Blizzard apparently hates me
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scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
February 06 2012 19:23 GMT
#357
On February 02 2012 05:09 c0ldfusion wrote:

Edit: Although it's _possible_ to be placed into master league with just the first 5 placement matches of a brand new account, it's highly unlikely. (Since not only would you need to win, you'll need to be lucky with your opponents.) So good evidence of an MMR reset or lack thereof can only be seen for master leaguers who skip a season.


I was master and skipped a season. When I came back I had to play 5 placement and I cas assure you they were at best gold. I lost one to a newbie (got lazy on my macro) and got platinum.

So in my experience, when you skip a season, your account MMR is completely resetted.
Brood War is forever
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
February 06 2012 19:25 GMT
#358
On February 07 2012 04:20 PandaTank wrote:
Oh ok, thanks Charger. The wording was confusing me. I looked through the thread and saw Jinro asked the same question.
I got more than the required points and I still didn't get promoted. Blizzard apparently hates me


I've seen people get promoted with far less and people with more than enough not get promoted. It's completely based on your MMR but as the guy a post or two above me said, for the general public, Blizzard had to estimate about what someone would need in points since everyone's MMR is hidden. You were probably close to promotion though - do well during the lock and you could very well get promoted your first game of the new season. Good luck
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 06 2012 19:28 GMT
#359
Anyone who can explain the point of the lock? From what I remember, it's not mentioned in the awesome league guide. I mean, I realize that during the lock, you can neither be promoted nor demoted, but your MMR is still affected... so... what's the point?

When I first heard about the lock, I thought it was incentive to make inactive people play when losses "didn't matter"... but since MMR still counts, there's really no difference other than any eventual promotion or demotion happens 1 week later. Why do they have locks at all?
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
February 06 2012 19:31 GMT
#360
On February 07 2012 04:28 Tobberoth wrote:
Anyone who can explain the point of the lock? From what I remember, it's not mentioned in the awesome league guide. I mean, I realize that during the lock, you can neither be promoted nor demoted, but your MMR is still affected... so... what's the point?

When I first heard about the lock, I thought it was incentive to make inactive people play when losses "didn't matter"... but since MMR still counts, there's really no difference other than any eventual promotion or demotion happens 1 week later. Why do they have locks at all?



The purpose for it is to act as a "cooldown" period inbetween seasons, think of it like stretching or going for a walk after a good workout.

This time gives players who havent been as active to spend their bonus pool and catch up with everyone else. as well as set a legitimate division ranking without players bounding up and down because of bonus pool.
Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
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