Moon joins Fnatic.SC2 - Page 62

On January 18 2012 10:43 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
wonder how much they are paying him... I remember he was getting almost 200k a year in wmf

On January 18 2012 11:09 red4ce wrote:
I don't like this at all. First of all why leave WC3? I know people say Moon isn't what he used to be but considering he won a big tournament not too long ago and took 1st in WCG Korea he can't be that bad. Certainly not to the point Boxer, July and Nada were in BW. If Lyn can still make big bucks playing WC3 in China I don't see why Moon couldn't do the same. Secondly why join a foreign team? The easy assumption is money, and I have absolutely no problem with someone playing for the money. However to maximize his talent Moon needs to play on a Korean team. The 2 most successful Koreans playing on foreign teams, Puma and Hero were both trained by TSL and oGs, respectively, and both players' teams have practice arrangements with Korean teams. Fnatic doesn't have anything like that and it would be a shame to see a talent like Moon's never reach his potential.

On January 18 2012 11:09 red4ce wrote:
I don't like this at all. First of all why leave WC3? I know people say Moon isn't what he used to be but considering he won a big tournament not too long ago and took 1st in WCG Korea he can't be that bad. Certainly not to the point Boxer, July and Nada were in BW. If Lyn can still make big bucks playing WC3 in China I don't see why Moon couldn't do the same. Secondly why join a foreign team? The easy assumption is money, and I have absolutely no problem with someone playing for the money. However to maximize his talent Moon needs to play on a Korean team. The 2 most successful Koreans playing on foreign teams, Puma and Hero were both trained by TSL and oGs, respectively, and both players' teams have practice arrangements with Korean teams. Fnatic doesn't have anything like that and it would be a shame to see a talent like Moon's never reach his potential.

On January 18 2012 11:32 fams wrote:
2. Warcraft III is only popular in China, and is on the downturn. Not to mention, every single Chinese professional team requires you to play both Starcraft 2 and Warcraft III.

On January 18 2012 11:33 babylon wrote:

Moon leaving War3 really depresses me, but playing two games at such a high level isn't really viable, especially as the SC2 scene develops more and more. Lyn can get away with it because he lives and plays in China, which has lesser competition in the SC2 scene (i.e. he doesn't have to really raise his skill level above Code A-ish right now), and doesn't really care to branch out into the more international scene atm. I'm sure Moon has gotten tons of offers from Chinese teams, but there are some things to keep in mind, primarily that Moon is married, with a kid, so it's not like he can uproot everything and move to China, which most of the Chinese teams would have him doing to play in the Chinese leagues. (See: Lyn and Remind.) Additionally, his recent showings in the G-League (right after WCG) were pretty atrocious. If he wanted to, he could probably put in the time again to become the best again, but unless you move house to China, it's fairly difficult to find good practice partners on the level of the Chinese players.

As for why a foreigner team ... this is speculation, but I do think it's a combined issue of time and money, both of which are tied into the fact that he now has a family (once again). What makes a Korean team "better" than a foreigner team? The teamhouse and the structured practice times. I honestly don't think Moon wants to spend too much time away from his family -- when on WMF, he only got to see them a few days a week, and he's stated before that he prefers to practice from home -- and a foreigner team wouldn't require him to live in a teamhouse. Even if he was on a Korean team, if he's not living in the teamhouse, then he's not losing much if he can just grab up practice partners online. (But hey, Fnatic says they're getting a training facility in Korea, so I could be totally wrong.) Money is self-explanatory, in any case.

EDIT: Got beat to the punch, but looks like I mostly(?) hit the nail on the head.


Interesting, considering that some War3 pros on the rosters of the Chinese teams aren't crosslisted on their SC2 team roster. (TH000 isn't, and I know Remind's not playing SC2 professionally. I feel like there's another pro I'm forgetting about who just flat-out doesn't play SC2 as well -- Fly, maybe? -- but I could be misremembering.)

On January 18 2012 11:44 fams wrote:

That information comes from ReMinD, so take it or leave it. This was back in the summer of 2011 when I talked to him about this.

On January 18 2012 11:45 MetalLobster wrote:
I agree with you on the first part. War3 is dying and I'm quite sad about it as well.

As for joining a foreigner team, I think it's mostly about the money, because some teams do not require you to stay in the team house. For example, oGs has allowed NaDa to practice at home because he had valid reason and I remember reading on a thread that NesTea and MVP don't live in the IM house either. Also, with joining Fnatic, he also has the ability to play in foreign tournaments which is more cost-effective that fighting through the GSL.

On January 18 2012 12:17 pdd wrote:
Remind himself has quit WC3 IIRC. He became a WC3 ref at the WCG2011 finals. Which explains why he hasn't shown up in both scenes since winning the start of 2011.

On January 18 2012 12:27 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
It was expected. Sad to see him leave WC3, which now seems to have a Chinese monopoly, but I hope to see him to well in SC2 .

On January 18 2012 12:33 swordboy wrote:
Remind is on Ehome which doesn't even have a SC2 division, he did participate G-league for SC2 as well as WC3 and got eliminated in the first round by a no-name.