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Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
January 18 2012 05:10 GMT
#1261
On January 18 2012 13:39 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 13:33 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 13:29 pdd wrote:
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

That's the whole point isn't it. This people have earned their rights to be hyped (former BW pros, WC3 legends, ladder beasts, etc). That's where fanbases and excitement is built.

Who cares if these people don't do as well as hyped? The point is that it's interesting to see how well they would do and if they can meet expectations.


I'm saying the expectations have not been earned. It was nice and dandy of course that he was great in WC3. But the game was not quite that competetive. As I said, he is no Flash.


No offense but how do you know Flash will do amazingly in SC2 if he switched?


On another note, Moon (as far as i know) is the equivalent of flash in WC3, and while those are different games, the same can be said for BW against SC2 despite it bearing the starcraft name
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 18 2012 05:14 GMT
#1262
On January 16 2012 00:50 MiKTeX wrote:
fnatic moon

calling it

This is the second comment. But's its also the easiest call ever.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
January 18 2012 05:16 GMT
#1263
On January 16 2012 00:50 MiKTeX wrote:
fnatic moon

calling it


Not bad.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 18 2012 05:32 GMT
#1264
A really nice guy too. I hope he destroys everyone after he will practice more SC2 than Wc3.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 18 2012 05:32 GMT
#1265
On January 18 2012 14:14 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:50 MiKTeX wrote:
fnatic moon

calling it

This is the second comment. But's its also the easiest call ever.

The painting gave it away
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Kyles92
Profile Joined October 2010
England183 Posts
January 18 2012 05:38 GMT
#1266
Great pick up, GL!
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
January 18 2012 06:51 GMT
#1267
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

Not to be rude, but I think you are incredibly ignorant.

Moon has the nickname "the fifth race" for a reason. He is the best Warcraft 3 player of all time - even BroodWar professionals that you so highly covet, respect Moon's ability as a professional gamer.

As people pointed out already, Moon was "part time" playing Starcraft 2 and he still did better then a lot of Korean professional gamers who did Starcraft 2 full time. Let me clarify by saying "part time": He was playing Warcraft 3 at a top tier level, travelling back and forth to China to play in major tournaments - even qualifying for WCG (which is rather difficult considering the amount of players in Korea still playing it full time at an insane level, like ReMinD).

Additionally, while he was with WMF he was expected to play Avalon Heroes and do promotional work for WeMade Entertainment.

Spirit_Moon has done more for this industry than you can comprehend apparently. Just because you hold BroodWar on a ridiculous pedestal, does not mean that you can try to discredit arguably one of the best gamers of all time. Shame on you.

http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#1268
On January 18 2012 15:51 fams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

Not to be rude, but I think you are incredibly ignorant.

Moon has the nickname "the fifth race" for a reason. He is the best Warcraft 3 player of all time - even BroodWar professionals that you so highly covet, respect Moon's ability as a professional gamer.

As people pointed out already, Moon was "part time" playing Starcraft 2 and he still did better then a lot of Korean professional gamers who did Starcraft 2 full time. Let me clarify by saying "part time": He was playing Warcraft 3 at a top tier level, travelling back and forth to China to play in major tournaments - even qualifying for WCG (which is rather difficult considering the amount of players in Korea still playing it full time at an insane level, like ReMinD).

Additionally, while he was with WMF he was expected to play Avalon Heroes and do promotional work for WeMade Entertainment.

Spirit_Moon has done more for this industry than you can comprehend apparently. Just because you hold BroodWar on a ridiculous pedestal, does not mean that you can try to discredit arguably one of the best gamers of all time. Shame on you.



you forgot that he switched from terran to zerg as far as i know.
cant wait to see him prefrom when he is 100% sc2
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 18 2012 07:01 GMT
#1269
On January 18 2012 15:51 fams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

Not to be rude, but I think you are incredibly ignorant.

Moon has the nickname "the fifth race" for a reason. He is the best Warcraft 3 player of all time - even BroodWar professionals that you so highly covet, respect Moon's ability as a professional gamer.

As people pointed out already, Moon was "part time" playing Starcraft 2 and he still did better then a lot of Korean professional gamers who did Starcraft 2 full time. Let me clarify by saying "part time": He was playing Warcraft 3 at a top tier level, travelling back and forth to China to play in major tournaments - even qualifying for WCG (which is rather difficult considering the amount of players in Korea still playing it full time at an insane level, like ReMinD).

Additionally, while he was with WMF he was expected to play Avalon Heroes and do promotional work for WeMade Entertainment.

Spirit_Moon has done more for this industry than you can comprehend apparently. Just because you hold BroodWar on a ridiculous pedestal, does not mean that you can try to discredit arguably one of the best gamers of all time. Shame on you.



Yeaaaah, I'm new to the whole e-sports thing with no prior fandom of BW or WC3, but if the line is "Moon is no Flash" I totally agree with the above. WC3 has it's god, it's Moon. BW has it's god, it's Flash.

Sure, the BW -> SC2 transition is far easier to comprehend than a WC3 -> SC2 transition, but Moon surely has great potential to do well and, like a lot of BW pros, if he can meet his skill in a previous game in SC2 we're in for exciting things.

I'm not going to hype him up like the fanboys will (and have for other players too quickly), but that doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to what Moon, who has such a great history in e-sports, can bring to the e-sport I most enjoy.
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CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
January 18 2012 07:08 GMT
#1270
On January 18 2012 15:51 fams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

Not to be rude, but I think you are incredibly ignorant.

Moon has the nickname "the fifth race" for a reason. He is the best Warcraft 3 player of all time - even BroodWar professionals that you so highly covet, respect Moon's ability as a professional gamer.

As people pointed out already, Moon was "part time" playing Starcraft 2 and he still did better then a lot of Korean professional gamers who did Starcraft 2 full time. Let me clarify by saying "part time": He was playing Warcraft 3 at a top tier level, travelling back and forth to China to play in major tournaments - even qualifying for WCG (which is rather difficult considering the amount of players in Korea still playing it full time at an insane level, like ReMinD).

Additionally, while he was with WMF he was expected to play Avalon Heroes and do promotional work for WeMade Entertainment.

Spirit_Moon has done more for this industry than you can comprehend apparently. Just because you hold BroodWar on a ridiculous pedestal, does not mean that you can try to discredit arguably one of the best gamers of all time. Shame on you.



Thanks for writing this. I realize we post on a Starcraft website but a lot of the ignorance towards Warcraft III and its players is pretty bad.
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:18:02
January 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#1271
This is an incredibly smart purchase on Fanatics behalf. Even if Moon doesn't perform as high as some people expect upon switching to full time SC2, he is a HUGE name in the gaming industry, and that in itself will provide enough viewing to satisfy sponsors and ultimately - revenue.

Me personally, I've never been good at RTS games so I never played any beyond custom and single player, however I have been an avid spectator of RTS for a very long time now. And this includes Warcraft 3. To me, players like Moon, Grubby and Remind will always have a special place in my heart no matter what game they are playing or how they are performing. This is the mentality of a true fan.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 18 2012 07:23 GMT
#1272
Grats to Moon and fnatic!
But this announcement of announcement is getting meh.
BSOD
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
January 18 2012 07:33 GMT
#1273
I'd really love to see a Moon that is fully dedicated to Sc2, considering how beastly all the eu wc3 players are and how good moon has looked at times I think it could be scary to see the greatest wc3 player ever in full form.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 07:37:51
January 18 2012 07:35 GMT
#1274
Moon is probably my favorite progamer of all time but people should tone down the hype and expectations. It's been a long time since he dominated the WC3 scene so comparing him to Flash is wrong on so many levels. I would even say it'd be more accurate to compare him to Boxer. Only a rabid fanboi and/or a fnatic employee would expect him to dominate in SC2 when he hasn't been able to do so in WC3 for the last four or five years.

edit: that said, I'm super excited to see him go full time SC2. Can't wait to watch his games.
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
January 18 2012 07:36 GMT
#1275
A fully dedicated Moon is something many people dream about, it would be interesting to say the least. I think he has the talent obviously to be a Code S player at the least.
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MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
January 18 2012 07:47 GMT
#1276
On January 18 2012 13:33 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 13:29 pdd wrote:
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

That's the whole point isn't it. This people have earned their rights to be hyped (former BW pros, WC3 legends, ladder beasts, etc). That's where fanbases and excitement is built.

Who cares if these people don't do as well as hyped? The point is that it's interesting to see how well they would do and if they can meet expectations.


I'm saying the expectations have not been earned. It was nice and dandy of course that he was great in WC3. But the game was not quite that competetive. As I said, he is no Flash.


lol @you

must be new to e-sports scene or something eh ?
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
January 18 2012 07:55 GMT
#1277
oh wow great move by fnatic if moon ends up practicing. incredible upside i say
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
January 18 2012 08:24 GMT
#1278
On January 18 2012 13:33 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 13:29 pdd wrote:
On January 18 2012 13:23 Squeegy wrote:
On January 18 2012 12:52 fams wrote:
To be honest, it is my personal opinion that Moon will be just as successful in Starcraft 2 as he was in Warcraft III when he begins to devote his time exclusively to Starcraft 2.

I can't wait to see him in action after one month.


Me neither. But moreover I can't wait for you to come up with an excuse when he doesn't deliver and say that he will do it in two months. And then three, four, five. It's the same old story. People overrate players. He is no Flash.

That's the whole point isn't it. This people have earned their rights to be hyped (former BW pros, WC3 legends, ladder beasts, etc). That's where fanbases and excitement is built.

Who cares if these people don't do as well as hyped? The point is that it's interesting to see how well they would do and if they can meet expectations.


I'm saying the expectations have not been earned. It was nice and dandy of course that he was great in WC3. But the game was not quite that competetive. As I said, he is no Flash.


Since everyone likes to cite TLPD so much, why don't we have a look at the top 5 current foreigners?
Mana
Kas
Stephano
SaSe
Naniwa
4 out 5 are former War3 players. Mana being the only ex-BW player. Mana is good but his ELO is inflated due to various online tournaments (he'd still be up there, but he might not be deserving of #1, as many would agree). If you even go down the list of foreigner players, it's dominated by former war3 players. Who made it to TSL3 Grand Finals? Oh yea 2 ex-war3 players. Kind of sad how little respect many of these players get.
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
January 18 2012 08:33 GMT
#1279
Foreigner scene is dominated by war3 players because it's the most recent successful competitive RTS game.

The real measure is the korean scene, where the top tier pros are, where clearly players with pro-BW backgrounds are dominating.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
January 18 2012 08:38 GMT
#1280
4 years back, I used to think that Moon was a soulless machine who just stomped tournaments left and right a little too easily because he was pretty abusive in just about any matchup, especially NvO where no foreign orc could touch him except Grubby. Now I hope he does the same with this game ^^
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