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On January 13 2012 05:35 leecH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 05:28 Suichoy wrote:
The eSahara announcement isn't as bad as the OP makes it seems. The French version says that they wish him the best of luck in pursuing the GSL. If you can't read french, just use Google Translate. You will see the announcement is quite reasonable. i can read french. but in the world of money people talk differently. and saying "lack of dedication" in a public post by your "ex boss" is shitting all over your face and rubbing it in to it. it does not matter if you end it with "and wish you good luck" because you still shit in someones face. i know i get a warning for this.. but i do make i point dont i?
Good point, I just think the eSahara tone was less offensive than in the OP.
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On January 13 2012 05:35 leecH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 05:28 Suichoy wrote:
The eSahara announcement isn't as bad as the OP makes it seems. The French version says that they wish him the best of luck in pursuing the GSL. If you can't read french, just use Google Translate. You will see the announcement is quite reasonable. i can read french. but in the world of money people talk differently. and saying "lack of dedication" in a public post by someones "ex boss" is shitting all over your face and rubbing it in to it. it does not matter if you end it with "and wish you good luck" because you still shit in someones face. i know i get a warning for this.. but i do make i point dont i?
Don't martyr, for your own good. Now you'll get warned whether or not the post warranted it.
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I have no idea why eSahara said he was removed due to the FXO players, when we were in the GOM house we were streaming with webcams and you can see cArn in the back of the room while our players were there.
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eSahara always seemed a bit dodgy, you know?
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Can somebody explain what happened at the Gom House. Did they suddenly have to change all the players staying there?
Are Foreigner only allowed to stay there for so long?
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On January 13 2012 06:03 XRaDiiX wrote:
Can somebody explain what happened at the Gom House. Did they suddenly have to change all the players staying there?
Are Foreigner only allowed to stay there for so long?
They threw him out so FXO team could stay (this was last spring).
I think GOM only wants players staying there if they are profitable for them (GOMTV), if they can manage to qualify for GSL and they bring viewers. But I'm not really sure, this is just my speculation.
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So players not showing results and/or not dedicated enough are politely asked to depart the Gom House? Yes?
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On January 13 2012 06:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
So players not showing results and/or not dedicated enough are politely asked to depart the Gom House? Yes?
Raelcun who posted above you said that cArn was still in the GOM house when FXO was there so I don't think that's necessarily the case.
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T.T i really liked cArn and his blogs were quite inspirational, i hope he can find a new team soon
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Poor cArn, he was so promising back in the day. Hopefully he gets picked up by another team.
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Sorry but being a pro means you have to perform at some point. I give him credit for going after his dream but he obviously lacks the talent to accomplish it. Just as not everyone can be a physicist, not everyone can be a pro starcraft player.
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On January 13 2012 06:44 Duravi wrote:
Sorry but being a pro means you have to perform at some point. I give him credit for going after his dream but he obviously lacks the talent to accomplish it. Just as not everyone can be a physicist, not everyone can be a pro starcraft player.
How exactly can you conclude that he obviously lacks the talent? How often have you even seen him play?
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On January 13 2012 06:50 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 06:44 Duravi wrote:
Sorry but being a pro means you have to perform at some point. I give him credit for going after his dream but he obviously lacks the talent to accomplish it. Just as not everyone can be a physicist, not everyone can be a pro starcraft player. How exactly can you conclude that he obviously lacks the talent? How often have you even seen him play?
He has no results. At what point does that start to matter? You can't just keep saying some player has great potential but has yet to perform up to it even once for year after year.
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Nice to see the thread shift more towards logical and understanding of why esahara had to let carn go. I don't see any team executive keeping a player like carn as long as they did.
I also find it hilarious that carn tries to justify why he didn't practice for 5-6 months.
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On January 12 2012 20:58 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 20:57 mazqo wrote:On January 12 2012 20:54 Ruscour wrote:
edit: i was quite mean.
best of luck to cArn, keep at it...as long as he's still practicing hard i do not understand this decision. Why should he keep at it? He has practiced over a year full time and still isnt that good. He seriously should stop trying to play this game professionally, he will never be top player. Not with that attitude. Would you say the same about Jinro?
I would. Other then the early GSL and MLG Dallas what has Jinro done? Nothing, he's just your average foreigner who lives in Korea.
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On January 13 2012 07:38 Zombo Joe wrote:What about  Machine and  Tyler?
What about them? Both are big time community figures (Tyler <3)
Both are
-marketable
-popular with the fans
-Actually have results
-great teammates
-great personalities
-Knowledgeable when it comes to the game.
-etc!
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I agree, what's wrong with not going to the qualifiers? How is that a lack of motivation? If anything you could see it as discipline. If you haven't reached your goal and haven't gotten good enough, you can tell yourself beforehand that you will not go to the qualifiers as a punishment, hence making yourself want to work harder next time.
It is wrong for eSahara to judge like this. It's their team of course, but I don't agree with the decision.
On January 13 2012 07:27 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 20:58 Ruscour wrote:On January 12 2012 20:57 mazqo wrote:On January 12 2012 20:54 Ruscour wrote:
edit: i was quite mean.
best of luck to cArn, keep at it...as long as he's still practicing hard i do not understand this decision. Why should he keep at it? He has practiced over a year full time and still isnt that good. He seriously should stop trying to play this game professionally, he will never be top player. Not with that attitude. Would you say the same about Jinro? I would. Other then the early GSL and MLG Dallas what has Jinro done? Nothing, he's just your average foreigner who lives in Korea.
Point is that a player who may not be doing well currently does not necessarily not have the potential to make a breakthrough or improve, such as Jinro has done. Thus, carn still has a chance to get good.
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On January 13 2012 07:48 Angelbelow wrote:What about them? Both are big time community figures (Tyler <3) Both are -marketable -popular with the fans -Actually have results-great teammates -great personalities -Knowledgeable when it comes to the game. -etc!
And although both players have minimal success, even a ton of poor results can be beneficial for sponsors b/c at the end of the day, players are supposed to market their sponsors. When I look at Machine and Tyler's TLPD pages, the volume of games stands out to me as that's a ton of <insert sponsor plug> going out. When you look at cArn's page, he's participated in like 5 total events. If he's not winning or much less attending anything, why is it so unreasonable for a team to drop him?
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