Hey guys! I made this thread to let people give suggestions on/share experiences on how to best introduce people close to you to starcraft. I guess I'll start it of
In my experience the only way to get someone who has no prior gaming experience to enjoy watching and/or playing video games is to get them to play with you. This has proven itself quite effective for me in the past however there are two major issues that tend to get in my way.
1: the person targeted for nerdification simply doesn’t want to neither watch nor play the game that you're trying to promote. If the person you're trying to introduce to this new wonderful world is completely opposed to even giving it a shot there's really not that much you can do now is there? 2: Provided that the person targeted for your masterful plan to win him/her over to the nerdy side is open to new things and willing to try playing the game I've noticed that most people tend to give up on fully understanding the game because of its complexity (this ofc isn't true with every game)
I've recently entered a new serious relationship and it would mean the world to me if I was able to get my newly beloved to enjoy starcraft enough to come with me on a large tournament sometime this summer. My biggest concern is that starcraft in all of its glory is an extremely hard game to learn or even understand. When i first showed -targeted person- a starcraft game she asked me about what the scouting workers were doing, I went on to tell -targeted person- about how scouting worked and why it was important. -Targeted person- then responded with "oh ok, i thought they were killing each other".
I'd love it if you guys would share some of your experiences with introducing people to starcraft. Also if someone has a youtube video with real pros where the caster/casters are really informative I'd be very happy if you'd share it with us
Thank you all for reading and responding! much love/Shift
Edit: I've noticed alot of comments about forcing people into liking your hobbies. That is NOT what this thread is about, it's about getting people close to you to understand and appreciate starcraft, nobody's going to force anybody to play or watch anything they don't want to.
My GF, who has a mean nerd streak (battlestar galactica, Star Trek: TNG), absolutely refuses to have anything to do with SC2. Any ideas on breaking this?
Pretty much just doing it in a place where others can see you. My roommates had no interest in Starcraft until I had to move my computer into the living room because of internet issues. It's hard to walk past and not at least have a glance at what I am doing when there is a huge battle or I am doing stuff really quickly on the keyboard/mouse. Whether they are actually interested or not I will never know, but they have stopped to bug me or ask me about it. Or to simply call me a nerd.
The best way to learn how the game works is just by playing it, it's as simple as that. If whoever you're trying to show it to doesn't want to play, it's utterly hopeless. Once they've played a few games and can at least sort of wrap their head around what it feels like, watching a replay or VOD is much more accessible.
The strategy aspect is harder, but there's thousands of people that don't play and don't know anything about strategy besides what they hear from the caster and still enjoy watching, you don't actually have to understand the nuances of some fancy timing attack or whatever to get excited by it.
My wife doesn't like Starcraft. Doesn't like strategy games. Doesn't enjoy watching e-sports, and frankly thinks the entire thing is silly.
But she realizes it's important to me, and so she's more willing to watch a really cool clip. When I call to her "JAEDONG JUST WON HIS GAME." I consistently get responded to with "WOOOOO!".
My point is that the trick to getting someone interested in something that they simply have no interest in, is by making it clear that it's very important to you and a part of your life. Maybe they don't get it, and really don't like it. But they should at least be supportive.
She won't play. But every now and then she'll watch a Day9 daily with me (she thinks Sean is funny; so do I). On a rare occasion I can get her to watch an important match. She doesn't understand what she's watching, and I end up spending most of the time explaining stuff, but she's at least willing to put up with it because it's obviously important to me, and we like spending time together. I also go with her to craft fairs hahah.
On January 08 2012 09:28 slackador wrote: My GF, who has a mean nerd streak (battlestar galactica, Star Trek: TNG), absolutely refuses to have anything to do with SC2. Any ideas on breaking this?
Does she a reason not to try it? maybe you should just bring her to a big event some time since she has alot of prior gaming experience?
On January 08 2012 09:28 slackador wrote: My GF, who has a mean nerd streak (battlestar galactica, Star Trek: TNG), absolutely refuses to have anything to do with SC2. Any ideas on breaking this?
Does she a reason not to try it? maybe you should just bring her to a big event some time since she has alot of prior gaming experience?
My GF is really similar though her nerdiness just like your girlfriend has nothing to do with video games. She respects that I'm passionate about it and that's about it.
On January 08 2012 09:32 Splynn wrote: My wife doesn't like Starcraft. Doesn't like strategy games. Doesn't enjoy watching e-sports, and frankly thinks the entire thing is silly.
But she realizes it's important to me, and so she's more willing to watch a really cool clip. When I call to her "JAEDONG JUST WON HIS GAME." I consistently get responded to with "WOOOOO!".
My point is that the trick to getting someone interested in something that they simply have no interest in, is by making it clear that it's very important to you. The person that loves you should understand that, and at least make small attempts from time to time.
She won't play. But every now and then she'll watch a Day9 daily with me (she thinks Sean is funny; so do I). On a rare occasion I can get her to watch an important match. She doesn't understand what she's watching, and I end up spending most of the time explaining stuff, but she's at least willing to put up with it because I've made it clear that these things are important.
Worked for me .
I absolutely agree with you on the showing it's important to you part. Also I consider starcraft to be more of a sport than an acctual game wich makes it totally fine not to play it. I hope you can get her to really enjoy it too someday even tho it seems you guys are pretty happy as it is^^ congratz to you for that
On January 08 2012 09:28 slackador wrote: My GF, who has a mean nerd streak (battlestar galactica, Star Trek: TNG), absolutely refuses to have anything to do with SC2. Any ideas on breaking this?
Does she a reason not to try it? maybe you should just bring her to a big event some time since she has alot of prior gaming experience?
Next time an event is in Dallas, maybe she'll come with me. I doubt it, though/ She plays her little online puzzle/card games, but doesn't ever play any bigger games.
I've asked her to watch a game cast with me, or watch MLG on the TV with me, but she has absolutely NO interest. Not sure what to do.
On January 08 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote: The best way to learn how the game works is just by playing it, it's as simple as that. If whoever you're trying to show it to doesn't want to play, it's utterly hopeless. Once they've played a few games and can at least sort of wrap their head around what it feels like, watching a replay or VOD is much more accessible.
The strategy aspect is harder, but there's thousands of people that don't play and don't know anything about strategy besides what they hear from the caster and still enjoy watching, you don't actually have to understand the nuances of some fancy timing attack or whatever to get excited by it.
I agree that playing the games is the best way of learing to understand it HoWever, there's a ton of people of there who started watching games way before they acctually started playing, i know i'm one of them or take slasher for example he's played like two games, in the beta!
Lol I can proudly say I managed to do this with my gf, but it was a brutal process.
First, it's important to note that she and I dated for 2.5 years before she finally cracked and started accepting my inner nerd. Additionally, also important to note that she has near zero gaming experience in her past.
How'd I do it? A very slow, gradual introduction to the world of video games. Started with Plants vs Zombies, which she got hooked on really fast. Then the new super Mario bros for the wii. Next was Terra Nova lol Whether you like the show or not, it is her first sci fi and she got hooked there to. Then she always asked about streams I watch.
So I explained the streams and what was going on. Eventually this led to her watching me play a game, and then her pwning a comp on easy with my guidance, with as many jokes and laughs as possible. Positive associations are key, this means couple the idea of SC with positivity, laughter, and bonding.
And now, my gf of three years who started with zero gaming experience, is ranked 23 in Bronze in her own SC login. Very proud :')
Also worth noting we paired our online names, which she liked lol TheNewblar and TheNewblet
On January 08 2012 09:28 slackador wrote: My GF, who has a mean nerd streak (battlestar galactica, Star Trek: TNG), absolutely refuses to have anything to do with SC2. Any ideas on breaking this?
Does she a reason not to try it? maybe you should just bring her to a big event some time since she has alot of prior gaming experience?
Next time an event is in Dallas, maybe she'll come with me. I doubt it, though/ She plays her little online puzzle/card games, but doesn't ever play any bigger games.
I've asked her to watch a game cast with me, or watch MLG on the TV with me, but she has absolutely NO interest. Not sure what to do.
I'd say go for the dallas event, large events are so much different than watching at home in your couch, my first event was actuallt this winter at dreamhack and oh my god i was frikken crying when hero came out to face the crowd even tho i didn't really cheer for him ^^
I don't think you should ever force starcraft on a relationship, as long as she respects what you do/enjoy and make her realise SC2/Gaming is IMPORTANT to you then there should be no problems :D.
You should just have an open mind to her likes/dislikes and then find something you both equally enjoy and I'm sure you do anyway (otherwise that would be a pointless relationship ^^).
If she doesn't like the game just respect that fact and go to your events in the summer with friends or on your own if you are that hardcore xD
On January 08 2012 09:41 Genetic wrote: Lol I can proudly say I managed to do this with my gf, but it was a brutal process.
First, it's important to note that she and I dated for 2.5 years before she finally cracked and started accepting my inner nerd. Additionally, also important to note that she has near zero gaming experience in her past.
How'd I do it? A very slow, gradual introduction to the world of video games. Started with Plants vs Zombies, which she got hooked on really fast. Then the new super Mario bros for the wii. Next was Terra Nova lol Whether you like the show or not, it is her first sci fi and she got hooked there to. Then she always asked about streams I watch.
So I explained the streams and what was going on. Eventually this led to her watching me play a game, and then her pwning a comp on easy with my guidance, with as many jokes and laughs as possible. Positive associations are key, this means couple the idea of SC with positivity, laughter, and bonding.
And now, my gf of three years who started with zero gaming experience, is ranked 23 in Bronze in her own SC login. Very proud :')
Also worth noting we paired our online names, which she liked lol TheNewblar and TheNewblet
That's my story! Good luck man! TheNewblar
haha thank you so much for sharing that :D not often a forum post makes me laugh out loud three times also congratz to you guys for being an awsome couple!
On January 08 2012 09:46 Versioned wrote: I don't think you should ever force starcraft on a relationship, as long as she respects what you do/enjoy then there should be no problems :D.
You should just have an open mind to her likes/dislikes and then find something you both equally enjoy and I'm sure you do anyway (otherwise that would be a pointless relationship ^^).
If she doesn't like the game just respect that fact and go to your events in the summer with friends or on your own if you are that hardcore xD
I absolutely agree. this isn't about forcing anything on anybody tho, it's about making starcraft into something both of you can enjoy together, nobody ever said anything about forcing.
I would have to say the best way is to take her to a live event where day[9] is casting.
It's a lot easier to get excited about something in a crowd of excited people and day[9] does a really good job explaining what is going on to people who have not watched the game before.
On January 08 2012 09:49 frogmelter wrote: I would have to say the best way is to take her to a live event where day[9] is casting.
It's a lot easier to get excited about something in a crowd of excited people and day[9] does a really good job explaining what is going on to people who have not watched the game before.
Good point, i haven't thought about the fact that casters also matter when you bring someone inexperienced to an even. thx for that
don't try to force people ... like one person above said, tell em its something you like alot. And rts games are something you like or don't. There is nothing in between, well not much atleast. But in general you won't get someone into rts games if they aren't already. But different interests in sports shouldn't really be an issue anyway, its just sport.
If you both have your own hobbies, be supportive to eachothers interests but never force someone to participate in what you do. My girlfriend is supportive and takes an interest in my games, just like I take an interest in her crafts/scrapbooking/arts. But she isnt plannig to slowly get me into scrapbooking, just like im not planning to slowly get her into being a gamer. I think its a bad mindset to be thinking about how you can change your significant other to like and do what you like to do. Although if they are prohibiting what your interests are thats a different story.
On January 08 2012 09:52 FeyFey wrote: don't try to force people ... like one person above said, tell em its something you like alot. And rts games are something you like or don't. There is nothing in between, well not much atleast. But in general you won't get someone into rts games if they aren't already. But different interests in sports shouldn't really be an issue anyway, its just sport.
What's up with all the forcing comments? it's not about forcing, it's about enjoying. also i have a tattoo of the zerg icon on my chest, i'm quite sure my partner knows its I like sc alot lol xD
On January 08 2012 10:00 TheTurk wrote: Offer sex in return for playtime. *Only works in a strong enough relationship, or if the female is attempting to promote the game.
lol that settles it, i know exactly what i'm going to do xD
I dont understand why people are so obsessed with getting their girlfriends hooked on sc2, I mean it doesnt hurt that you have a hobby or 2 that you can spend time on alone, then do other shit with your GF, if she thinks it's interesting from the start then cool, but if she doesn't like it dont try to force it on her.
I think the best way is to be honest and open about what your hobbies and things you like to do, like StarCraft, and just tell her about it even if she doesn't know what you're talking about. Let her ask questions and then explain things to her, not just about the game but about the community and the gaming scene in general. I think there is definitely something she would be interested in, if not the game itself, and you can get her to enjoy/appreciate competitive gaming and StarCraft through that.
For example, my girlfriend does not play StarCraft or many video games, but she really enjoys watching things like State of the Game and Day[9] playing Amnesia with me. She also lets me watch tournaments like MLG when they are on, and went to MLG Providence with me for a day. I think what gets her interested isn't so much the game itself, but more of the community side of it. The fact that there are real, normal, intelligent, likeable people who play video games for a living, and pro gaming really doesn't fit the stereotypes that people unfamiliar with eSports associate with it.
To be honest my girlfriend isnt a nerd and mostly hates games I play but for some reason she actually enjoyed watching me play sc2. She saw collosus and was like KILL THOSE SPIDERS QUICK! It made me love her even more. She watches a few korean matches and loves it. I'm lucky as hell to have such a pretty girl who actually enjoys watching sc2!
If she doesn't get interested / intrigued when she sees you watching Starcraft, then there's no reason you should push it in the first place. It's not like you're a progamer and she needs to understand what you do in order for your relationship to work.
It's just a hobby, you don't need to like the same things.
I have learned that my gf dont like to play 1v1s, she likes to plya 2v2's with me though. U just have do not care about winning or loosing.
Making extra accounts helps too, so you got 2 accounts where u will get a MMR calculated by your 2v2 teams MMR and you get to get a ~50% winning rate (which will make her enjoy the game more too).
I first tried this in another game but sc2 (Heroes of Newerth) where i could "babysit" her more. She then wanted to play other games i like too --> sc2. She makes silly mistakes ofc, but thats fine, we have a laugh about it and i blame it all on me (its a relationship - so... the guy is always wrong, right?)
On January 08 2012 10:08 Vetrocide wrote: I dont understand why people are so obsessed with getting their girlfriends hooked on sc2, I mean it doesnt hurt that you have a hobby or 2 that you can spend time on alone, then do other shit with your GF, if she thinks it's interesting from the start then cool, but if she doesn't like it dont try to force it on her.
I want to know what things my gf likes, and she wants to know what i like. I kinda like operas nowadays. lol
On January 08 2012 10:17 socommaster123 wrote: To be honest my girlfriend isnt a nerd and mostly hates games I play but for some reason she actually enjoyed watching me play sc2. She saw collosus and was like KILL THOSE SPIDERS QUICK! It made me love her even more. She watches a few korean matches and loves it. I'm lucky as hell to have such a pretty girl who actually enjoys watching sc2!
If she likes Starcraft, then she'll enjoy it. If she doesn't, just don't play Starcraft with her.. It's a 1v1 game anyways. It shouldn't affect her in any way if you play Starcraft as a hobby.
On January 08 2012 10:17 socommaster123 wrote: To be honest my girlfriend isnt a nerd and mostly hates games I play but for some reason she actually enjoyed watching me play sc2. She saw collosus and was like KILL THOSE SPIDERS QUICK! It made me love her even more. She watches a few korean matches and loves it. I'm lucky as hell to have such a pretty girl who actually enjoys watching sc2!
It didn't really take much for me to get my gf into SC2. One day I came over and turned on MLG and all we did was snuggle up and watch it. I sat and explained the strategies and the units and she just fell in love with it. Just make her understand your passion for the game. That's all they want to see is the commitment to it.
I don't really see a lot of problems with getting your girl friend and other friends (boy or girl) really get into starcraft. I always just talked about it passionately and when I play it, I play it. A lot of my friends asked me to teach them and a lot say that it is really hard, so they respect me for being able to play it and respect the pro gamers that I rant about being able to play it at a high level.
On January 08 2012 09:29 Trealador wrote: Pretty much just doing it in a place where others can see you. My roommates had no interest in Starcraft until I had to move my computer into the living room because of internet issues. It's hard to walk past and not at least have a glance at what I am doing when there is a huge battle or I am doing stuff really quickly on the keyboard/mouse. Whether they are actually interested or not I will never know, but they have stopped to bug me or ask me about it. Or to simply call me a nerd.
lol this is a good idea... my roommate doesn't give a shit about SC but I bet if it was in the living room him and his friends that come over would def stand next to me while I'm playing and grow interest over time.
Give her a shitty quickie if she doesn't let you play sc2 and an amazing, orgasm-tastic experience if she stays out of sight while you game or joins you in the fun...if you can
I've offered to help my wife learn SC2, but she's pretty much said "no". But she understands that watching/playing is my hobby, and is okay with occasionaly watching it with me. She spends half the time napping, and half asking me what's happening, but that's okay. As cool as it would be to play with her, so long as she's fine with SC2 being my thing we have no problems.
Part of me hopes that after I expose her to SC2 by watching, she might get some interest in playing, but I doubt it'll happen. She has however stated that she's willing to come with me to a live event this year, with the understanding she may leave and go do something else in whatever city we go to.
My wife and i went to a barcraft together. She wants to come with me to more and more now. (Although i suspect partly because of the OMGWTFBBQ awesome burgers at the pub.)
I dont have this problem
She also sits there and watches some MLG matches with me at home, she says its the atmosphere of the crowd and passion etc that enthralls her.
Also, she loves day9 and HuK. -_- Keep the fuck away from my girl.
I tried to teach her to play it (i introduced her to games with WoW and other MMO's) and she sucked really bad, she paniced so much and compared herself to the pro's level of play and mine (im only plat) and said it was all too fast for her.
For example i asked her to move down..she asked me how....move the mouse darling...down...
Its a pressure thing in her case i think, shes the "casual" type with MMO's etc.
She absolutely enjoys watching the odd SC2 game though.
Sometimes, its not so important to make your GF like or love starcraft so much as having her understand how important it is to you as a hobby. If you play in a tourney hopefully she will support you, if you want to see one, hopefully she will want to experience it with you even if she doesn't completely understand it.
My GF doesnt watch SC2 but she would go support me if I played in a local tourney and come along if I went to watch a tournament as well just to keep me company and learn a little more about the game. Im happy about that as its all I really expect from her. I know she isn't super into it but her being supportive of me enjoying it is all I ask. Just like I support her and would go to something she thinks is important just because I care, ya know?
Show her an episode or two of Day[9]. If she likes it, get her to watch more, and then eventually move on to playing + watching tournament games. If she doesn't like it, so be it. Don't try to force someone in to liking something they are sure they don't.
The way i got my previous girlfriend to accept it was sharing with her the intricacy of the game, showing how it can be as technical, entertaining, as well as physically and mentally demanding as other sports. Being a high master player i was able to give her a decent look at what it is like to play the game at a higher level and explain to her all the small things you have to think about during a game. Though she didn't quite understand all of what I was saying but the most important thing was showing that you have to be smart to play the game well xD
The next step was showing her games and getting her into the personalitys of some of the players and casters. Tastetosis and Day 9 played a big part in her starting to enjoy watching it. We both loved their humor and could enjoy watching games even if the game itself proved to be uninteresting. Learning players characters/personalities and showing her or telling her about all the drama thats going on in the community would interest her as well. We both had the love/hate thing going for Idra, she thought TheBest was the snoodiest looking person alive, MC crazy good but too cocky...so on and so forth. She was also very touched by the stories behind Fruitdealer and Nestea as they fought for the their victories.
After she knew some of the personalities and the passion and dedication that people were putting into the game, I showed her the motherload... Day 9 daily 100!! She loved it so much she ended up watching it again by herself at home. This was before she knew some of the storie lines and personalities mentioned above so all the things I'm saying did not necesarilly happen in this order exactly.
An Important thing to note is that this girl wasn't really much of a nerd at all. She was an extremely attractive dancer and a very intelligent girl that had practically never touched a video game in her entire life. Although our relationship didn't work out in the end It proved to me that, if presented correctly, more people can understand and love Esports than many would think.
Be interested in her passions and show her why Starcraft is beautiful and isn't a waste of time. If she's into math show her all the calculations and precision a player needs. If she's into writing show the amazing stories that emerge. If she's into Art show her the beauty and orchestration of a perfectly played game and the emotional strain the player must overcome to be the best. Be creative!
Anyways just thought I'd share some of my experience
On January 08 2012 10:48 Capped wrote: My wife and i went to a barcraft together. She wants to come with me to more and more now. (Although i suspect partly because of the OMGWTFBBQ awesome burgers at the pub.)
I dont have this problem
She also sits there and watches some MLG matches with me at home, she says its the atmosphere of the crowd and passion etc that enthralls her.
Also, she loves day9 and HuK. -_- Keep the fuck away from my girl.
I tried to teach her to play it (i introduced her to games with WoW and other MMO's) and she sucked really bad, she paniced so much and compared herself to the pro's level of play and mine (im only plat) and said it was all too fast for her.
For example i asked her to move down..she asked me how....move the mouse darling...down...
Its a pressure thing in her case i think, shes the "casual" type with MMO's etc.
She absolutely enjoys watching the odd SC2 game though.
Bringing your partner to a barcraft seems like a fun idea I might actually try that out!
My gf is interesting in similar things as me but she wasnt into starcraft until she realized how much i loved it. Then she got on board to support my gaming habits :D
play team games and don't rage at her when she is the reason u lost. keep telling her she's doing a great job and that the win was a team effort, oh and game whilst on skype, so you can help her out if need be
On January 08 2012 09:41 Genetic wrote: Lol I can proudly say I managed to do this with my gf, but it was a brutal process.
First, it's important to note that she and I dated for 2.5 years before she finally cracked and started accepting my inner nerd. Additionally, also important to note that she has near zero gaming experience in her past.
How'd I do it? A very slow, gradual introduction to the world of video games. Started with Plants vs Zombies, which she got hooked on really fast. Then the new super Mario bros for the wii. Next was Terra Nova lol Whether you like the show or not, it is her first sci fi and she got hooked there to. Then she always asked about streams I watch.
So I explained the streams and what was going on. Eventually this led to her watching me play a game, and then her pwning a comp on easy with my guidance, with as many jokes and laughs as possible. Positive associations are key, this means couple the idea of SC with positivity, laughter, and bonding.
And now, my gf of three years who started with zero gaming experience, is ranked 23 in Bronze in her own SC login. Very proud :')
Also worth noting we paired our online names, which she liked lol TheNewblar and TheNewblet
On January 08 2012 11:15 Smatin wrote: The way i got my previous girlfriend to accept it was sharing with her the intricacy of the game, showing how it can be as technical, entertaining, as well as physically and mentally demanding as other sports. Being a high master player i was able to give her a decent look at what it is like to play the game at a higher level and explain to her all the small things you have to think about during a game. Though she didn't quite understand all of what I was saying but the most important thing was showing that you have to be smart to play the game well xD
The next step was showing her games and getting her into the personalitys of some of the players and casters. Tastetosis and Day 9 played a big part in her starting to enjoy watching it. We both loved their humor and could enjoy watching games even if the game itself proved to be uninteresting. Learning players characters/personalities and showing her or telling her about all the drama thats going on in the community would interest her as well. We both had the love/hate thing going for Idra, she thought TheBest was the snoodiest looking person alive, MC crazy good but too cocky...so on and so forth. She was also very touched by the stories behind Fruitdealer and Nestea as they fought for the their victories.
After she knew some of the personalities and the passion and dedication that people were putting into the game, I showed her the motherload... Day 9 daily 100!! She loved it so much she ended up watching it again by herself at home. This was before she knew some of the storie lines and personalities mentioned above so all the things I'm saying did not necesarilly happen in this order exactly.
An Important thing to note is that this girl wasn't really much of a nerd at all. She was an extremely attractive dancer and a very intelligent girl that had practically never touched a video game in her entire life. Although our relationship didn't work out in the end It proved to me that, if presented correctly, more people can understand and love Esports than many would think.
Be interested in her passions and show her why Starcraft is beautiful and isn't a waste of time. If she's into math show her all the calculations and precision a player needs. If she's into writing show the amazing stories that emerge. If she's into Art show her the beauty and orchestration of a perfectly played game and the emotional strain the player must overcome to be the best. Be creative!
Anyways just thought I'd share some of my experience
That's an awsome story man thank you very much for sharing it!
On January 08 2012 10:48 Capped wrote: My wife and i went to a barcraft together. She wants to come with me to more and more now. (Although i suspect partly because of the OMGWTFBBQ awesome burgers at the pub.)
I dont have this problem
She also sits there and watches some MLG matches with me at home, she says its the atmosphere of the crowd and passion etc that enthralls her.
Also, she loves day9 and HuK. -_- Keep the fuck away from my girl.
I tried to teach her to play it (i introduced her to games with WoW and other MMO's) and she sucked really bad, she paniced so much and compared herself to the pro's level of play and mine (im only plat) and said it was all too fast for her.
For example i asked her to move down..she asked me how....move the mouse darling...down...
Its a pressure thing in her case i think, shes the "casual" type with MMO's etc.
She absolutely enjoys watching the odd SC2 game though.
Bringing your partner to a barcraft seems like a fun idea I might actually try that out!
Women are social creatures so this is probably the best idea. Although I'm very happy that my gf is very separated from my sc2
On January 08 2012 10:48 Capped wrote: My wife and i went to a barcraft together. She wants to come with me to more and more now. (Although i suspect partly because of the OMGWTFBBQ awesome burgers at the pub.)
I dont have this problem
She also sits there and watches some MLG matches with me at home, she says its the atmosphere of the crowd and passion etc that enthralls her.
Also, she loves day9 and HuK. -_- Keep the fuck away from my girl.
I tried to teach her to play it (i introduced her to games with WoW and other MMO's) and she sucked really bad, she paniced so much and compared herself to the pro's level of play and mine (im only plat) and said it was all too fast for her.
For example i asked her to move down..she asked me how....move the mouse darling...down...
Its a pressure thing in her case i think, shes the "casual" type with MMO's etc.
She absolutely enjoys watching the odd SC2 game though.
Bringing your partner to a barcraft seems like a fun idea I might actually try that out!
Women are social creatures so this is probably the best idea. Although I'm very happy that my gf is very separated from my sc2
Considering the size of this forum i'd say starcraft IS a social game
My gf played the campaign, and she actually plays plays other video games (Skyrim, Civ 5). But she just doesn't seem that into SC2, probably because it is too intense (Skyrim you can just pause and save whenever, Civ is turn based). I occasionally ask her to try multiplayer and she says 'yeah I will sometime maybe' but doesn't end up happening.
We (me, her and her bro) play civ a lot, but she (and her bro for that matter) just don't seem into starcraft. You can try do what you can to get her into it (I would actually recommend campaign, since it has a story line + is much less intense than multiplayer), but you may have to accept that Starcraft 2 just isn't for everyone.
On January 08 2012 09:32 Splynn wrote: My wife doesn't like Starcraft. Doesn't like strategy games. Doesn't enjoy watching e-sports, and frankly thinks the entire thing is silly.
But she realizes it's important to me, and so she's more willing to watch a really cool clip. When I call to her "JAEDONG JUST WON HIS GAME." I consistently get responded to with "WOOOOO!".
My point is that the trick to getting someone interested in something that they simply have no interest in, is by making it clear that it's very important to you and a part of your life. Maybe they don't get it, and really don't like it. But they should at least be supportive.
She won't play. But every now and then she'll watch a Day9 daily with me (she thinks Sean is funny; so do I). On a rare occasion I can get her to watch an important match. She doesn't understand what she's watching, and I end up spending most of the time explaining stuff, but she's at least willing to put up with it because it's obviously important to me, and we like spending time together. I also go with her to craft fairs hahah.
Worked for me .
Something like this.
And it's a give and take too... when I realized that my significant other is more important to me than SC2, it meant giving up the game somewhat.
So yes, hopefully she recognizes how important it is to you, but you should also recognize that she has interests too that you should care about, and sometimes that's more important than Starcraft.
Well, my ex-gf is now constantly bugging me to play 2v2s with her and if we play vs each other i really have to bring my a-game (i'm only gold though, i make a ton of silly mistakes). she started out in bronze in autumn 2010, and is now gold too and even beats me sometimes. although we did break up, we still play together sometimes, but then again she's sort of crashed into the whole "girls playing sc2 scene" and is bonding with anyone who invites her to a skype chat with that topic, and she was an internet/computer girl before...did only just have to push her a bit, didnt need to convince her of how the game is good.
but i can say what made her actually buy the game was when i was constantly watching day9 back in the days, like from #100 - #200 i didnt miss a single live show, and when she slept at my place, she had to watch it with me, and i think that got her really interested. so yeah, show 'em day 9, and be passionate about that something that you love(her, and sc2). because nothing's cooler than that.
What I experienced is, that if you just stick telling your good friends about your passion for this game, over a long period of time, so that they can see your really into it they get interested in learning more about. They'll eventually ask you to show them something, and here is the point you can't influence anymore, weather they like it of not after constant exposure to your passion for the game is up to them.
You tell her the Medivac is in love with the Void ray, but its wrong for Terrans to love protoss, but the Medivac is a really strong lady who is ready to take the risk to love a protoss and will love him always and forever
Just fucking respect her for what she likes and support her in that thinking. Don't force her to like something you like just to get that feeling of "having the same attitude"
If she's interested in sc2 she will tell you, she'll hardly oversee that you are interested in that game obviously.
On January 08 2012 13:30 CallmeMuppet wrote: Just fucking respect her for what she likes and support her in that thinking. Don't force her to like something you like just to get that feeling of "having the same attitude"
If she's interested in sc2 she will tell you, she'll hardly oversee that you are interested in that game obviously.
who said anything about not respecting anybody or forcing anything onto anybody? also, the cursing isn't appreciated...
My girlfriend dated a couple guys in the past who play call of duty, world of warcraft, and dungeons & dragons, and she has seen so much of it that she wants nothing to do with video games to a point where where the guy would rather play games than hang out with her.
She knows I make maps and play starcraft, but she won't get involved. She's not ashamed of it though, and she said if she really wanted to parttake in my hobby, she would, but she doesn't like it. She got me a terran t-shirt though
My gf is awesome. I was playing pokemon on my emulator, so you know what she does? Asks me to download pokemon for her :D As for starcraft, she has no interest, which is fine, we each have little hobbies that we simply don't understand
Speaking from experience (i.e. I'm female, and my boyfriend got me into the game!) here's what stands out to me that really worked: Be the awesome boyfriend, who also loves SC2. Tell your girlfriend about the accomplishments you're most proud of from the game, how you've worked to get to where you are, etc. Show an interest in her activities, too, from the same kind of standpoint. Be patient in this, but I think if you can show her why it's important to you and why you enjoy it, she'll have an easier time appreciating it. And if you're her biggest fan (whatever her interests may be), she'll hopefully want to return the favor! Good luck, and have fun!
On January 08 2012 13:18 Zorkmid wrote: She's either going to be into it or not. If she doesn't play video games in the slightest....it's not going to happen
Every gamer has a first game. Starcraft 2 was mine. I got it on sale in September 2010 because everyone around me seemed to enjoy it so much and I finally had a games-capable computer.
When I was trying to introduce my dad to SC2 I linked it to things he likes - he watches several sports and was a competitive chess player at university. He hasn't taken to it yet, but he has agreed to watch some GSL matches now his tv is set up to display the stream (55" of awesome).
Time away from your GF is a good thing for the relationship. If your GF doesn't respect that you have different interests then you've got other problems.
That aside Day9 #100 would probably be a good start.
On January 08 2012 13:18 Zorkmid wrote: She's either going to be into it or not. If she doesn't play video games in the slightest....it's not going to happen
Every gamer has a first game. Starcraft 2 was mine. I got it on sale in September 2010 because everyone around me seemed to enjoy it so much and I finally had a games-capable computer.
When I was trying to introduce my dad to SC2 I linked it to things he likes - he watches several sports and was a competitive chess player at university. He hasn't taken to it yet, but he has agreed to watch some GSL matches now his tv is set up to display the stream (55" of awesome).
lol unfortunately my love for sc2 has made it almost impossible to find any girl ><;;..... i feel like because of how much i play and watch sc2 that it is a credential for the girl to like sc2!!!!
i think the harder part is getting old fashionedISH parents (who are very intelligent people and expect nothing less than a top college degree and grad school) to enjoy and understand sc2.....
My wife didn't understand it at all, the whole eSports thing in general. Then all the sudden we had HwangSin at our house for two weeks. She started to spark a little interest, then I got her to go to the NASL Grand Finals, to cheer for Hwang and she enjoyed it. While you probably can't have a pro player at your house for a few weeks, the reason she became a fan was because of his personality and our friendship. I think its like any other sport, its a lot more enjoyable when you have someone to root for.
On January 08 2012 14:58 Bango wrote: lol unfortunately my love for sc2 has made it almost impossible to find any girl ><;;..... i feel like because of how much i play and watch sc2 that it is a credential for the girl to like sc2!!!!
i think the harder part is getting old fashionedISH parents (who are very intelligent people and expect nothing less than a top college degree and grad school) to enjoy and understand sc2.....
Playing starcraft really shouldn't stop you from being able to find a girl as long as you still go out every now and then as for the parent part, i was in the same boat. I'm in university now tho and i'm not finding it very hard to make time for gfs/school and starcraft
On January 08 2012 09:28 slackador wrote: My GF, who has a mean nerd streak (battlestar galactica, Star Trek: TNG), absolutely refuses to have anything to do with SC2. Any ideas on breaking this?
Does she a reason not to try it? maybe you should just bring her to a big event some time since she has alot of prior gaming experience?
My GF is really similar though her nerdiness just like your girlfriend has nothing to do with video games. She respects that I'm passionate about it and that's about it.
^Pretty much this.
In highschool I prolly woulda given the world to have her enjoy the same games as me. But now that were older, I kinda like having games to my own for personal space.
This is how i got my GF playing SC2.. At first, i play sc2 with her watching me, then i start to tell her about the game and stuff, not the complicated one, just how the game works. No strategy, No mechanics, just all about having fun. After that i bought her an account, and ask her to come and join to play with me. we play against easy AI, Co-op, custom game (chef of Aiur) i just let her figure out the game little by little. Still no heavy stuff. Even tough she play the game, but she not really interested with it. Then one night, she ask me to go watch movie with her. I don't like that movie, so i made a deal with her. We go watch the movie, but after this i want her to watch . So, after the movie, we start to watch both of the episode. She really like how jessica enjoy playing starcraft with boxer. Then she start to ask question like, who is jessica, who is Boxer, why this game is famous. After that, she is hook with sc2. We both live quite far and it took me usually 2 hour to get to her. So, can only go out on the weekend. What i did is every night I call her and ask her to play with me. That how we enjoy ourself when we are far. But still, as guy u need to tolerate alot, hahaha. girls with RTS = hard to mix. Dun stress her out with too mush strategies, decision making.
Important Do not be mad at her while playing the game. In team, mistake such as not rally scv, supply block, miss click should not be taken seriously. *even that mistake lost cause you to lose the game* Remember, your objective is to make her enjoy playing starcraft as much as you do. There was one time, i accidentally mad at her because we lost to such a silly opponent. It took me week's to convince her to play back starcraft. Do not repeat my mistake >.<
I teach her a little by little the heavy stuff. Small step each time. Then she found out, Girl of Starcraft community =D, That group really good for girl gamer.I also show her megumiXbear stream, dragon (my gf is a terran). All the fun stream. Now both of us watch GSL, MLG together. If you see her stress out with the game, switch to fun custom game. That is the story how i got my gf to play starcraft. Hope it will help.
tldr:
1. Expose your girl to the game. 2. Play the game wit her. 3. Show her how fun starcraft is. 4. Stay calm always when playing the game with her. 5. Teach her slowly the heavy stuff. 6. Enjoy your time while playing with her.
p/s what i meant by heavy stuff is, mechanics, macro, micro, decision making, BO.
My gf doesn't care, nor do I expect or want her to. She watches some shows I like, I watch shows she likes...but she doesn't like videogames. When we hang out the last thing I want is her sitting somewhere watching me play a videogame lol. Go to dinner, cuddle, etc do something constructive
I don't see the point in making her appreciate it, you can go to MLG or w/e alone
My girlfriend tagged along once and it's a good thing that slush's girlfriend was there too or else she prob would have been kind of bored, and there is no amount of explanation that would have made her enjoy it, all she cared about was cheering for the people she knew
I showed my girlfriend a Day[9] Daily that randomly happened to be on. She tunes into like all his dailies now. I don't even think she knows the difference bettween a zergling and a zealot but she loves his stuff.
I start by showing them a bit of the scene to warm them up to the fact that it's not just a bunch of kids living in their mothers basement...
After that I explain who's who, because it seems to me that people are more interested in the Player rather than the Game, so I'll describe a bit of history with the people involved, then if they stick around after all of that, I'll go into how the game works.
My roommates threw a party one night, and it ended up with 12 people who never heard of Starcraft spending 2 hours watching GSL with me through the night into the early morning.
If you can get someone to get behind a single player, any player at all, then you're golden. I still have a friend that only likes MaNa because he saw his run at Dreamhack when he lost to Namaa in the finals. But any time I see MaNa play I let him know and he watches.
There is hope, it all starts with attachment though :D Good luck out there folks!
Q: My guy just plays computer games and seems to have completely lost sexual interest in me. The game he plays is World of Warcraft and every spare moment he sits in front of your computer. He always stays up late now so I can go to bed alone, it has affected our sex life negatively, and we have not had sex for several months now. Jessica
Linnea answers: First of all you must understand that his PC gaming is just as important as your hobbies and that it is perfectly normal to have a game day for 7-8 hours. Up to 12-15 hours is usually on his "guild" is in a so-called "instance".
Never try to ultimatum "me or the game" as intimidation technique, in 98% of cases, then, bitter guy shows his reply, go out and buy a 6 month pre-paid card.
Something that might be partly arouse sexual desire again is caring, if you can arrange his favorite food and serve him in gambling, he will really appreciate it. To serve him various snacks and drinks while he plays is also appreciated.
His playing is important to him and instead of that you require him to adjust to you as you adapt instead to his interest, role playing and costumes can be of great help here. Do not focus only on sex, but let yourself go to a nice and exciting foreplay.
To dress up as a Nightelf can be both exciting and thrilling for both of you. Choose a push-up bra and shorts in light brown leather that allows lint free, possibly a short leatherskirt. Buy a necklace with feathers from H&M accessories, along with a couple alvöron and a little purple makeup is your conversion to nightelf hunter ready.
Surprise him then at the computer, storming into the room and sit down on his knees before him. Look up with big eyes and tell me you just escaped from a few orcs and undead warlock, and that he must protect yourself, say that you agree to do anything as long as you can stay with him.
Q: My guy just plays computer games and seems to have completely lost sexual interest in me. The game he plays is World of Warcraft and every spare moment he sits in front of your computer. He always stays up late now so I can go to bed alone, it has affected our sex life negatively, and we have not had sex for several months now. Jessica
Linnea answers: First of all you must understand that his PC gaming is just as important as your hobbies and that it is perfectly normal to have a game day for 7-8 hours. Up to 12-15 hours is usually on his "guild" is in a so-called "instance".
Never try to ultimatum "me or the game" as intimidation technique, in 98% of cases, then, bitter guy shows his reply, go out and buy a 6 month pre-paid card.
Something that might be partly arouse sexual desire again is caring, if you can arrange his favorite food and serve him in gambling, he will really appreciate it. To serve him various snacks and drinks while he plays is also appreciated.
His playing is important to him and instead of that you require him to adjust to you as you adapt instead to his interest, role playing and costumes can be of great help here. Do not focus only on sex, but let yourself go to a nice and exciting foreplay.
To dress up as a Nightelf can be both exciting and thrilling for both of you. Choose a push-up bra and shorts in light brown leather that allows lint free, possibly a short leatherskirt. Buy a necklace with feathers from H&M accessories, along with a couple alvöron and a little purple makeup is your conversion to nightelf hunter ready.
Surprise him then at the computer, storming into the room and sit down on his knees before him. Look up with big eyes and tell me you just escaped from a few orcs and undead warlock, and that he must protect yourself, say that you agree to do anything as long as you can stay with him.
Not same game but both same dedication.
Hahaha xD I've never played wow and probably never will. In any case if my girlfriend did that to me I'd break up with her instantly xD(I mean the role playing part) Anyways... so what you're saying is that the best way of getting people close to you into gaming is to completely shut them out of your life and play the game so intensely that there's no other way for them to contact you? seems legit -_- xD
Some things in here are a bit too extreme. No, the worst possible thing you can do is try to force something on someone. I don't understand why things like that are being suggested. :S
Other things in here will get really, really annoying, like anything involving suggesting SC2 to her over and over.
The point? If she doesn't like SC2, believe or not, it's not actually a big deal, and by trying to force it or repetitively mentioning it you're actually going to make things worse, not better. So what do you do? Drop it. I don't see why one would be absolutely hellbent on getting someone into SC2 who is clearly not interested in it, and it's nothing bad at all if she isn't. Anyways, if any of you have had gf's that literally have a line of guys waiting on them, I would be really careful when doing something like that, SC2 or not. Bad mood due to whatever + you annoying her / trying to force something on her = bad shit happens.
On January 08 2012 18:23 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Some things in here are a bit too extreme. No, the worst possible thing you can do is try to force something on someone. I don't understand why things like that are being suggested. :S
Other things in here will get really, really annoying, like anything involving suggesting SC2 to her over and over.
The point? If she doesn't like SC2, believe or not, it's not actually a big deal, and by trying to force it or repetitively mentioning it you're actually going to make things worse, not better. So what do you do? Drop it. I don't see why one would be absolutely hellbent on getting someone into SC2 who is clearly not interested in it, and it's nothing bad at all if she isn't. Anyways, if any of you have had gf's that literally have a line of guys waiting on them, I would be really careful when doing something like that, SC2 or not. Bad mood due to whatever + you annoying her / trying to force something on her = bad shit happens.
Yep, dont force it. Everyone can have their own hobbies. I play NWN2 and titan quest with mine, and wont push sc2.
My gf bought sc recently. Basically, I didn't really try to convince her, just made some jokes about it. I also watched GSL whenever she had something else to do like studying. She honestly enjoys Artosis and Tasteless cuz they're "nerds that seem to have a life" according to her lol, she didn't understand much but she liked it anyway. Then she watched me play a bit and finally said "I'm going to learn how to play this game". Bear in mind she's a bit of a nerd too, in a girl way - anime/manga-crazy and played a lot of super mario when younger.
My girlfriend refuse to even try the game, but she respect/has no problems with me being so "nerdy" or watching starcraft, so I dont really see a problem. I refuse to watch crappy TV-series with her so it has to go both ways
On January 08 2012 18:58 aderum wrote: My girlfriend refuse to even try the game, but she respect/has no problems with me being so "nerdy" or watching starcraft, so I dont really see a problem. I refuse to watch crappy TV-series with her so it has to go both ways
Same here. She sometimes asks about how I'm doing and if I won or not. That's basically it and I have no problem with her not liking it. She's also a good reason for me to not play and do something else. Made me a lot more balanced person.
I didn't have any problem with mine. I just had her tag along during my stream, and she quickly figured things out and actually enjoyed watching me ladder. Before we knew it, I'd been streaming for six hours and she was actually rooting for me, which did wonders for my play.
I say just show her the game and explain some basic things. If she doesn't like it, oh well, but if she does, that's awesome.
My method is quite simple - I'm not trying to explain the game itself and advocate gaming, i rather talk about gamers and create a story
My girlfriend doesn't like PC games, thinks it is a waste of time. This is much better now - since I am still gaming and also making money and being family guy (lol). But I wanted more - that she would understand phenomen of e-sports and give credit to it.
I never tried to fully explain the game - I just talk to her like i would talk to any SC fan or regular gamer. I talk about leagues (GSL mainly), about my favourite players and share my feelings.
Talkin about players is maybe the best way - I present a real life person and through time, there is a story behind him. Very nice example is NesTea - his story is so interesting and being an over-30's progamer is something, what my girlfriend must rocognize and take seriously. She can see, that games are not for children only, but that it is a manly and fullscale sport!
I got my girlfriend in to SC2 by showing her Day9. We ended up watching a ton of the Funday Mondays, as well as Daily 100. Then I got her an account, and she started playing a lot. It's awesome. She even took the initiative and organized a Barcraft here in town :D
They have to play it first, if they dont they wont care. Have them play it and explain the game, then they like it or they dont (dont even try to say anything aboute the pro scene cuz they wont care). Then if they like it tell them aboute the pro scene and what the pros do good, then they like it or they dont. Simple as that.
On January 08 2012 19:05 CCupcakeDyran wrote: I didn't have any problem with mine. I just had her tag along during my stream, and she quickly figured things out and actually enjoyed watching me ladder. Before we knew it, I'd been streaming for six hours and she was actually rooting for me, which did wonders for my play.
I say just show her the game and explain some basic things. If she doesn't like it, oh well, but if she does, that's awesome.
Starcraft is a good way to do something that doesn't involve your girlfriend. (which is great) Don't know why you'd want to bring her into it but on topic, If you want to get her into starcraft some obvious ways are through the Day[9] dailies or another enthusiastic shoutcaster who casts at a very basic level. Also, when you talk about starcraft make it sound interesting. Not like, the bugs are killing the people. You know?
Day9 promised to make a video which we can show others to get them into starcraft (he mentioned it in his reddit ama daily) ... can somebody remind him?
Both me and my significant other are gamers. It's basically how we met, like 10 years ago, on Ultima Online. I was purely a RPG'er while my significant other played about every game genre possible.. maybe except FPS's. It was basically them, who bought me StarCraft 2 and got me to play it, along with our 8 years old kiddo. Of course, at start, the game seemed to be very difficult for me and I was very, very discouraged by that fact. I wanted to learn the game to be better than my significant other (I am just competitive like that ), so I started up looking the guides, started to look for communities and realized how hard the game really is. Practiced, learnt and the day I beat my significant other hard, they stopped playing, reasoning it that the game is mere 'speedclick' with no brain usage or logic required and that they can't be bothered to play any more.
Story of my life. Now I have to persuade my significant other to even play with me. So, our roles are reversed, with the twist, that I have no idea how to let them know/convince them that the game really requires you to use your brain and that 'speedclick' (read APM) is really not everything.
At least my significant other understands that the game is very important for me. But, that'd be probably because they too are passionate gamers, we just seem to differ in what games we enjoy nowadays.
lol this seems to be the other way around for me and my bf xD He and I have huge gaming streaks in us and usually play together but he strays away from sc2.
On January 08 2012 22:03 BabyToss! wrote: Both me and my significant other are gamers. It's basically how we met, like 10 years ago, on Ultima Online. I was purely a RPG'er while my significant other played about every game genre possible.. maybe except FPS's. It was basically them, who bought me StarCraft 2 and got me to play it, along with our 8 years old kiddo. Of course, at start, the game seemed to be very difficult for me and I was very, very discouraged by that fact. I wanted to learn the game to be better than my significant other (I am just competitive like that ), so I started up looking the guides, started to look for communities and realized how hard the game really is. Practiced, learnt and the day I beat my significant other hard, they stopped playing, reasoning it that the game is mere 'speedclick' with no brain usage or logic required and that they can't be bothered to play any more.
Story of my life. Now I have to persuade my significant other to even play with me. So, our roles are reversed, with the twist, that I have no idea how to let them know/convince them that the game really requires you to use your brain and that 'speedclick' (read APM) is really not everything.
At least my significant other understands that the game is very important for me. But, that'd be probably because they too are passionate gamers, we just seem to differ in what games we enjoy nowadays.
Alot of other people in this thread are suggesting 2v2s etc. Maybe you should try that?
I've found success in introducing them to other video games. Henery's Guide to Getting Girlfriends into Video Games.
Rule 1- Make them feel involved. Get them playing the games, give them the games, make it their game. Do it together, don't just give them a game and say "be off woman and don't come back till I see 100% completion!" TL:DR Work together.
Rule 2- Start out slow. Start with easier games like New Super Mario Bros Wii, or the new Donkey Kong game. Both are great examples of games that are fun and engaging to play, and can be played together. Don't start out with overly simple games like kinect games, wii sports, or GOD FORBID Call of Duty because trying to get a casual to the next level from games like that is another task all together. Games like Mario and DK make great gifts so try and give it to her for a Christmas or birthday gift and play it with her. Giving it as a gift is key here, it's one thing to say "come on over and play Mario cart with me," but asking if she wants to play HER Donkey Kong game makes it a whole lot more appealing. Also trying to start her out with MKP vs MVP vods is like asking a girl to marry you after the first date, doesn't usually work. TL:DR Start out with very casual games then move on to harder games.
Rule 3- These are more like steps then rules. Once you get her into the casual games you need to step it up. Now this requires your discretion as you don't want to go to fast. Make sure she is ready for the next "step up" into the gaming world. Slowly introduce her into games like Portal or a fun game like Forza. These games are a little more 1 player, but can still be played together so don't forget rule 1. I love using Portal at this point because it pulls them into the computer world and away from the console world, consoles are a good start but PC is where you want them. *Note that at this point you are still a long way away from showing her the competitive "e sports" scene. TL:DR Still moving through more "hardcore" games.
Rule 4- You now need to start pushing her towards the genre or game which you like. For most people here it will be the RTS scene so you will want to start with games like Sid Meire's Civ games, anything easier to play than SC but steering in that direction will do (Sid Meier's games are good because they are very visually pleasing to play but give as much time to the user to make decisions as they please). I am personally a first person shooter fan so I would be introducing games like TF2 or MNC (both are still pretty serious FPS games, but they are very visually appealing and VERY fun to play). You have to realize that this introduction is a very slow process and can take a long time to get to this point but is very very worth it, and the timeline for this process is different for each girl. I got my ex playing TF2 with me and she was having a blast and I can tell you that there was only one other thing we did that was better then playing video games together. TL:DR Start showing her "your" style of game.
Rule 5- You are now ready to introduce her to your favorite game. It is probably SC2 so I am going to use that as an example although for me it would be replaced with CS or DoD. She needs to understand that this game means a lot to you. You are not introducing her to e-sports yet, just the game. Start out saying things like "me and 'Johny' play this game together all the time, this is our favorite game" or "I played this game so much growing up lets play it together." You need to show her somehow that this game means a lot to you, but never lie. If you don't have any friends that play it with you don't lie and say they do, lying in a relationship is never ever good. Also do not force her into the game, if she doesn't like it then she doesn't like it. No big deal, the important part here is that she understands how important it is to you (also important that you are able to open up with her and show her your real self, if you can't do that maybe you need to look a little closer at your relationship). TL:DR Now show her your favorite game.
Rule 6- You are now very close to the e-sports intro. This should be the easiest step of all of them because she should know of the existence of the game and the challenges that come with playing it. Also having played video games for a while she should be more willing to understand why people can see the games as a sport. You still need to stick to rule 1, if you have the opportunity to go to a bar craft with her then go. Try and make it just the two of you and try to explain how the tournament is progressing, any back story and drama between players, show emotion, and feel the energy of the room. Any time you can introduce it in a social environment with the energy that a bar craft has then do so. TL:DR Now show her a bar craft.
Don't forget rule 1 throughout this process. This is a long process and can take a long time.
Here is a quick starter list of the games I like to go through (feel free to add or subtract games to your discretion) - New Super Mario Bros Wii (great fun to play as an intro game and you will both suck at it, trust me) - Donkey Kong Country Returns (just like Donkey Kong Country but 2 player, how can that be bad?) - Forza (this one doesn't last very long, just fun to woop her ass and get some bragging rights ) - Portal/2 (both are good and very short fun games so both should be played) - TF2 (I don't know why, but this one works very very good and has a good competitive scene) RTS branch - Sid Meier's Civilization V - C&C - SC/2 FPS branch - Day of Defeat: source (not much branch needed because TF2 was the last game played) - Counter Strike :source - Tribes - Quake
This guide does work pretty well and if you lucky you can skip the first few steps because she has done them herself.
I suggest making a bet with her. Next time Marine King prime is in a finals bet her that if he wins you will buy her an expensive purse or fancy jewelry... Since something she wants is on the line, it may get her interested and committed to watching a full set, Leave the rest to the magic of SC2 and the smooth voices of the handsome tasteless and artosis.
You gotta get her early when she's still pretending to like things that you like. Watch an MLG with her and show her how passionate people can be about it. ^^
I first brought my wife to a barcraft during the MLG that Huk won last fall. She hadn't played and barely understood what was going on but she enjoyed the social aspect of it. But now we go to barcraft for every MLG and she wears her Protoss shirt to show support.
I actually got her to sit down and play Protoss with my help for a bit (after a few drinks). I think she has more appreciation for how hard it is now. The fact that she loves nerds too doesn't hurt.
And yes, only a true nerd gets his wife drunk with the intent on playing starcraft and not nookie.
(apologies for the necro but I figured it would be better to add to an existing thread rather than create a new one on the same subject?)
So as others have said in this thread, a good way to get more girls into esports, is to appeal to their appreciation for a beautiful man. I've recently tried out the experience and it has worked very well. So, in order to help the community with this, I put up a nice little mash-up of hot pro gamers for da ladies.
My girlfriend started off enjoying watching me play, and would cheer me on. Eventually she started to understand the units, and I would talk her through my strategies so she can stay engaged.
From there it was a simple move to playing 2v2 with her. With the difference in skill it's more like 1v2, but she enjoys sharing control and just trying to simcity up her base, and send me units that I can use to fight
If I had any advice to give, it would be to never make it seem like there's any barriers to enjoying the game. If there's a big engagement that's really exciting to watch and she asks what happened, don't say that it's complicated or that it is hard to explain, just explain it in whatever terms you have to. Don't say that a player gambled that his opponent wouldn't scout his DT rush, say that one player invested all his resources in getting what would normally be a late-game unit as soon as possible, and his opponent didn't have anything to defend against it yet.
If she doesn't have any interest at all in learning about or trying the game, I don't know what to say. Shared interests are an important part of a relationship imo, and I don't think I'd be happy if my girlfriend just wanted to completely ignore something important to me.
Chloroform? Don't know how that helps, but one of you will be pleased
on a serious note: if you're passionate about sc, try transfer some of that passion towards her when you talk her about the game. Try explaining why some things are epic and the skill required to make it happen.
Nothing has made me less attracted and likely to break up with my girlfriend than trying to teach her how to play video games. So rather than continue trying, I've just grown complacent with the fact that she will never play and I'm happy that she has lots of stuff to study while I play.
When I was living with my GF, she used to watch me play WC3. First she only watched me, but at some point she started paying attention to what happened on the screen. I was never as much in love with her as when she reprimanded me for a retarded creep-route or screamed "BOOOLLLTT!" on the top of her lungs when my opponent's DK was low on health.
I couldn't get her to play, but I never really tried, as I'd much rather have an appreciative audience than just another noob on battle.net.
The best way I got my relationships in the past to enjoy starcraft is to introduce them to characters and people I thought they would relate to and enjoy. With the help of day[9] 100th episode, and teamliquid, I introduced my last relationship and she got hooked on the scene.
My newer ( almost 2 year) relationship is from south korea so she doesn't need any introduction really and will occasionally put up with watching me watch something. She does like to play 2v2 and other games with me though.
On May 29 2013 05:42 Meow-Meow wrote: I was never as much in love with her as when she reprimanded me for a retarded creep-route or screamed "BOOOLLLTT!" on the top of her lungs when my opponent's DK was low on health.
Dude... i just imagine that and almost cried a tear, that would be fucking awesome, lucky!
On May 29 2013 05:42 Meow-Meow wrote: I was never as much in love with her as when she reprimanded me for a retarded creep-route or screamed "BOOOLLLTT!" on the top of her lungs when my opponent's DK was low on health.
Dude... i just imagine that and almost cried a tear, that would be fucking awesome, lucky!
I'll have to remember to include Khaldor for the next update. Noted!
Hehe, I was in the Crowd for the IEM 2011 finals, Ace vs Moon. My girlfriend was with me, quietly making a crossword puzzle on the chair next to me xD.
She agreed to try some basic missions, but she never actually did... but she doesn't lilke it anyway... so yeah
lol it was easy for me, I mentioned watching SC2 tournaments a couple of times, and she said she'd like to see what it's about, and we watched the WCS 2012 EU Semi-Final and finals together, and I explained what do units were and she quite enjoyed it, so much so that she asked to do it again once she comes back to the country ^_^
She's a Duran brothers fan, but really doesn't like Stephano haha
I wasn't so successful with anime though
PS: she has absolutely no clue about video-games bar Farmville, Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja.
My wife started to watch the VoDs with me as a mutual agreement, because I watched with her other shows like cooking shows or snoopy cartoons (that she likes a lot) and that stuff.
In the end, she begun to understand the basics of the game and begun to name each one of the units with funny names which are easy to remember for her. (Overlord => screen licking bug, Zergling => wing bug, Roach => Clamshell, Queen =Z Lady bug or stick bug, Muta => bat bug, Marine => guy, Marauder => fat guy... I think you got it)
And then, we were in the Dreamhack Valencia 2012 finals, booked the same hotel than most of the players (we were having breakfast close to Hero and Taeja) and she rooted quite hard for both of them, because she think Hero is cute and Taeja plays well.
In the end, she found herself enjoying the show as much as I did.
Took me nearly 2 years of slow exposition, but now we share another hobby.
So the final message is: if you want your gf to join you with your hobbies, don't force her, just expose her to it slowly. In the end, SC2 is quite entertaining to watch, even if she doesn't play (my wife has never played Sc2)
Also if everything else fails, introduce her to CarbotAnimations and cute zerglings :D
PS: And I'm a better cook and I now also love the snoopy cartoons...
On January 08 2012 09:38 dignitas.merz wrote: 1. Show her Day9 Daily 100 2. Proceed to watch her break down in tears when Day9 gets emotional about his career 3. ??? 4. Success
This is what I had in mind for getting my mother into the game. It's just that he uses a lot of terms in his stories, like talking about the game itself, WCG, and a lot about the players, and I think that would make someone lose interest in what he has to say.
On May 29 2013 05:42 Meow-Meow wrote: I was never as much in love with her as when she reprimanded me for a retarded creep-route or screamed "BOOOLLLTT!" on the top of her lungs when my opponent's DK was low on health.
Dude... i just imagine that and almost cried a tear, that would be fucking awesome, lucky!
I'll have to remember to include Khaldor for the next update. Noted!
I can't get my gf to play SC2 but she enjoys watching all the major events with me. What works in my case is to provide her with some back story about every player so she can decide who to cheer for. She now knows most of the popular players pretty well.
Some time ago we also went together to IEM and she really liked it. I'd recommend live events like these to anyone as it's a really awesome experience even if you have very vague understanding of the game.
I agree with everyone saying Day[9]. He is funny as well as engaging. He will tell personal stories, explain some of what is going on in the game to the viewers, and is all around a likable guy imo.
My wife likes some video games but she has told me that SC2 is to hard of a game but she does understand that I like it and will ask questions about the GSL every once and a while. She knows that I play Protoss and she bought me a Protoss shirt which was pretty sweet lol.
On June 01 2013 12:59 ZerO_0 wrote: My wife likes some video games but she has told me that SC2 is to hard of a game but she does understand that I like it and will ask questions about the GSL every once and a while. She knows that I play Protoss and she bought me a Protoss shirt which was pretty sweet lol.
You are a lucky man. Thank you for shedding hope that there are women like her out there for the rest of us.
gradually it seems even my friends who I managed to get them to play for a year stopped playing once heart of the swarm comes out. Some just don't want to handle the 1v1 stress and find it boring to play other mode. Some just find it more fun to play LoL and switched because there are so many more of our friends playing and even if you lose, you can always blame it on someone else. I just got my GF to start playing by playing 2v2 against the comp and teach her some basic and why one player is better than the others. she is kinda enjoying it but not a lot. She only plays when I wanna play some SC2 and most of the time she would asks me to play LoL instead. Hopefully she won't stop playing soon.
With my BF I found it very fun and bonding to be playing through any games in co-op mode, whether it be LTBP on PS3 or D3 which we played through to lvl 60 twice.
Sc2 does have a multiplayer aspect but in truth 2v2 are kinda random and unpredictable. For me, sc2 is about 1v1, and since I am a social gamer, sometimes Im kinda sad that I have to play most of this game utterly alone against people I dont know. Perhaps sc2 isnt the best game to be playing with ur spouse, LoL/D3 or any Mmorpg is so much easier to co-op and help eachother along. As a starting sc2 player I wouldve loved someone I actually know in RL to learn the game with me, but when people are just not into the type of game, they won't play it.
Get your significant other into it, by asking innocently for some "family time" together. Works better if you have a kid of your own tho. Even if your significant other has never played a RTS before, this is an argument hard to refuse. Of course, this all has a pre-requisite, that your significant other is a nerd and/or gamer as well, and the kid is positively raised up that way as well. :D
Worked on me for sure. Now I have to nag my significant other to play StarCraft, so our roles have reversed since then, because I happened to discover Day9's dailies back in the day, to learn how not to suck at the game & became hooked so badly. <3 StarCraft
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), so I started up looking the guides, started to look for communities and realized how hard the game really is. Practiced, learnt and the day I beat my significant other hard, they stopped playing, reasoning it that the game is mere 'speedclick' with no brain usage or logic required and that they can't be bothered to play any more.
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