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On January 17 2012 09:42 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:42 gullberg wrote:On January 17 2012 09:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 17 2012 09:39 Sub40APM wrote:On January 17 2012 09:37 Wuster wrote:
Idra has better nerves than most progamers ?? I'd agree to some extent, he played BW professionally for a number of years and probably has great stage experience. You think he played on stage when he played BW? Rofl He had 1 televised match through his entire career I think (which he lost) Didn't he play a good bit of WCG? I thought that WCG had stage matches, or am I just wrong..?
Thought you meant in S.Korea. Sorry 
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On January 17 2012 09:41 TanKLoveR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Finally someone with rational thoughts. I stopped watching GSL because of this crap, it cheapens the competition that they just hand out invites to CODE S, which is supposed to be the more "Prestigious SC2 League" but that just makes it a joke. If they just hand them out to the "popular" players then i see it pretty possible any team can just buy a spot for their Ace player at this point.
Yeah remember that time MC, MMA, MVP, Nestea, etc. were all bumped out of the GSL at the same time because literally all 32 code S spots were taken up by foreigners?
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On January 17 2012 09:35 ZerguufOu wrote:
lol naniwa doesnt do better than idra against koreans. naniwa is 1-12 in the GSL.
Useless statistic. The only games played in the last 3 months were in the blizz cup, where he showed CLOSE CLOSE games against arguably the best 12 players in the world. If even one of the games that idra played was as close as any of the games naniwa played, it would be remarkable. But they weren't.
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On January 17 2012 09:43 gullberg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 17 2012 09:42 gullberg wrote:On January 17 2012 09:40 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 17 2012 09:39 Sub40APM wrote:On January 17 2012 09:37 Wuster wrote:
Idra has better nerves than most progamers ?? I'd agree to some extent, he played BW professionally for a number of years and probably has great stage experience. You think he played on stage when he played BW? Rofl He had 1 televised match through his entire career I think (which he lost) Didn't he play a good bit of WCG? I thought that WCG had stage matches, or am I just wrong..? Thought you meant in S.Korea. Sorry
Yeah, no problem. Again, we're going by my assumption that every minute on stage helps every other minute on stage.
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I would love to know how many hours Idra puts into practice now that he is in korea. Do you guys think he and the rest of the foreigners in korea practice as hard as the koreans?
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On January 17 2012 09:43 fourColo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:41 TanKLoveR wrote:On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Finally someone with rational thoughts. I stopped watching GSL because of this crap, it cheapens the competition that they just hand out invites to CODE S, which is supposed to be the more "Prestigious SC2 League" but that just makes it a joke. If they just hand them out to the "popular" players then i see it pretty possible any team can just buy a spot for their Ace player at this point. Yeah remember that time MC, MMA, MVP, Nestea, etc. were all bumped out of the GSL at the same time because literally all 32 code S spots were taken up by foreigners?
I know, i was totally pissed by that i mean like how greedy can Mr. Chae get, seriously?
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On January 17 2012 09:39 fourColo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Nope wrong bbzzzt fail you lose gg no re. None of the big name GSL players have been edged out because of foreigners.
what about no-name but deserving players that should be in the tournament, but aren't because there obviously isn't an infinite amount of player slots available and foreigners are undeservedly occupying a number of these slots...?
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On January 17 2012 09:43 fourColo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:41 TanKLoveR wrote:On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Finally someone with rational thoughts. I stopped watching GSL because of this crap, it cheapens the competition that they just hand out invites to CODE S, which is supposed to be the more "Prestigious SC2 League" but that just makes it a joke. If they just hand them out to the "popular" players then i see it pretty possible any team can just buy a spot for their Ace player at this point. Yeah remember that time MC, MMA, MVP, Nestea, etc. were all bumped out of the GSL at the same time because literally all 32 code S spots were taken up by foreigners?
It's a fair statement to say that basically any player that makes their way through the qualifiers and Code A into Code S (read: any Korean GSL player) is a better player than any foreigner, yielding better games. Not to mention that invites are just taking spots away from these players who have had to work their way up the hard way.
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On January 17 2012 09:43 Deindar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:39 dib wrote:
MAYBE I WOULD IF THERE WASENT A BULLSHIT 32 MIN SLOWMODE.
GREAT WAY TO LOSE VIEWERS. I see. So you're one of the idiots who posts trash in the chat channels and now you're angry and bringing your trash to TL. I guess I'm disappointed about the slowmode too, then.
you couldnt be more wrong. i'm probably the few who actually watched the korean weekly before today and always loved the chat but this is just retarded.
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On January 17 2012 09:43 m3rciless wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:35 ZerguufOu wrote:
lol naniwa doesnt do better than idra against koreans. naniwa is 1-12 in the GSL. Useless statistic. The only games played in the last 3 months were in the blizz cup, where he showed CLOSE CLOSE games against arguably the best 12 players in the world. If even one of the games that idra played was as close as any of the games naniwa played, it would be remarkable. But they weren't.
lol useless stats? GSL is the most prestigious tournament were players bring their "A" game... Naniwas best against the koreans is 1-12. It's a good measure of how he ranks against the best players when they are playing their best.
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On January 17 2012 09:45 Fjodorov wrote:
I would love to know how many hours Idra puts into practice now that he is in korea. Do you guys think he and the rest of the foreigners in korea practice as hard as the koreans?
Benefit of the doubt: Yes. It's clear that HuK's play is much better since he got there.
But practice doesn't equate to direct results. It's like White-Ra's expression where to win, you must lose.
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On January 17 2012 09:28 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:27 j4vz wrote:
i love how haters forgot how IdrA raped Bomber in MLG. That's true.
2-1 is not "raped". To rape someone you need to go like 4-0 or 4-1
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On January 17 2012 09:42 Xorphene wrote:
Very disappointed, sometimes I feel IdrA just doesn't give a shit.
400$dollars throwing that away is just complete dumb. And IdrA isn't dumb. No competitive player would throw that away.
I just think that you are "disappointed" that idra lost to Taeja which is a very good terran player. So you go to this thread starts to hate on the player that lost just because you rooted so much for him to win. This happens so many times that people loses like this.
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On January 17 2012 09:46 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:39 fourColo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Nope wrong bbzzzt fail you lose gg no re. None of the big name GSL players have been edged out because of foreigners. what about no-name but deserving players that should be in the tournament, but aren't because there obviously isn't an infinite amount of player slots available and foreigners are undeservedly occupying a number of these slots...?
Too bad there aren't any qualifiers to get into Code A and literally every code A spot goes to foreigners, this is racist, they literally let zero koreans into Code A and it's their own country! AUGHHHHH
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On January 17 2012 09:47 Lewan72 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:28 IntoTheheart wrote:On January 17 2012 09:27 j4vz wrote:
i love how haters forgot how IdrA raped Bomber in MLG. That's true. 2-1 is not "raped". To rape someone you need to go like 4-0 or 4-1
My memory might be foggy, but I thought that IdrA just dominated in the two games he won.
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On January 17 2012 09:43 fourColo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:41 TanKLoveR wrote:On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Finally someone with rational thoughts. I stopped watching GSL because of this crap, it cheapens the competition that they just hand out invites to CODE S, which is supposed to be the more "Prestigious SC2 League" but that just makes it a joke. If they just hand them out to the "popular" players then i see it pretty possible any team can just buy a spot for their Ace player at this point. Yeah remember that time MC, MMA, MVP, Nestea, etc. were all bumped out of the GSL at the same time because literally all 32 code S spots were taken up by foreigners?
Why do you think foreigners deserve any Code S spots in the first place?
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Wow IdrA got 4-0ed? It was expected but still Taeja is a beast :D
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Taeja plays amazing and all people can talk about is Idra. :/
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On January 17 2012 09:46 Ausfailia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:43 fourColo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:41 TanKLoveR wrote:On January 17 2012 09:36 Quotidian wrote:On January 17 2012 09:32 Choboo wrote:On January 17 2012 09:30 Quotidian wrote:
...so yeah, GSL needs to reconsider their foreigner invites policy. Idra is so far from being on par with Code S and he'll probably drop out of Code A without much fanfare there either. I guess we're back to that period of time just before Huk won his second MLG. Foreigners just can't compete. Some foreigners can still compete but unfortunately they probe rushed a game and now GSL is mad at them so they won't get a code S seed they need to stop giving code S seeds to foreigners regardless of the whole Naniwa thing. It undermines the entire tournament that they give out these charity seeds, and it makes foreigners looks bad by simple association to these horrible, one-sided matches. Foreigners that want to compete in the GSL should qualify, just like Koreans. And the same goes for Koreans wanting to play in MLG Finally someone with rational thoughts. I stopped watching GSL because of this crap, it cheapens the competition that they just hand out invites to CODE S, which is supposed to be the more "Prestigious SC2 League" but that just makes it a joke. If they just hand them out to the "popular" players then i see it pretty possible any team can just buy a spot for their Ace player at this point. Yeah remember that time MC, MMA, MVP, Nestea, etc. were all bumped out of the GSL at the same time because literally all 32 code S spots were taken up by foreigners? It's a fair statement to say that basically any player that makes their way through the qualifiers and Code A into Code S (read: any Korean GSL player) is a better player than any foreigner, yielding better games. Not to mention that invites are just taking spots away from these players who have had to work their way up the hard way.
Huk never qualified and also this isn't the point of foreign seeds.
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Idra was not playing for real. He has a GSL match, so he needs to keep his strats under wraps. It was only a showmatch.
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