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Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
Mouse acceleration is an annoying feature found in all versions of Microsoft Windows that artificially increases the speed of your mouse cursor based on how fast you move the mouse across your mouse pad. It sounds like a great feature in theory, in fact, Microsoft even calls the setting to “Enable pointer precision”; unfortunately it does the exact opposite and destroys any precision you may have had.
The game is plagued with inconsistency because moving the mouse from point A to point B is never the same. By disabling mouse acceleration, no matter how fast or slow you move the mouse, movement from point A to point B will be the same. This results in much greater accuracy, increased consistency.
To disable it from Windows, open up your Control Panel; from here open the Mouse panel, select the “Pointer Options” tab and un-check the “Enhance pointer precision” check-box.
That is only halfway there, since Windows also has a smaller mouse acceleration even if you disable it. You need to edit the registry to fully get rid of it.
(Works with XP, Vista and Windows 7)
1. Click Start button
2. Select Run
3. Type 'regedit' in the open textbox
4. Open the tree 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER', select control panel, then select mouse
5. Right clicking, modify the SmoothMouseXCurve and SmoothMouseYCurve hexidecimal values to the following:
SmoothMouseXCurve:
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
00,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00
00,40,01,00,00,00,00,00
00,80,02,00,00,00,00,00
00,00,05,00,00,00,00,00
SmoothMouseYCurve:
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
66,a6,02,00,00,00,00,00
cd,4c,05,00,00,00,00,00
a0,99,0a,00,00,00,00,00
38,33,15,00,00,00,00,00
If done correctly, you will notice you are holding a more responsive mouse (if you have been playing with mouse acceleration turned on for a long time, be warned: it does take some getting used to.)
Please note: although this tweak is pretty straight forward, if you have no idea what the registry edit tool is or does, I suggest reading a basic guide first (such as: http://www.akadia.com/services/windows_registry_tutorial.html).
Cheers!
EDIT: If you're worried about editing your registry, this file does the above for you: http://www.nextlevelgamer.com/downloads/tweaks/mouse_fix_reg
And if you're wondering if it really does work..
On January 01 2012 15:40 HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 15:35 Nick.TNA wrote:I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight?  i think most play with it off obviously, last pro i think i remember seeing it on was whitera
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umm wow. Okay I am going to try this out. Let's see how much different it is.
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Granted this is useful information, but there are a few posts on TL about it already.
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shouldnt that be the way i want it? if i want to get somewhere slowly, i move slower.
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I dont have the " SmoothMouseXCurve and SmoothMouseYCurve " in my mouse thing T_T
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On January 01 2012 12:32 radiantshadow92 wrote:
shouldnt that be the way i want it? if i want to get somewhere slowly, i move slower.
But this is about aceleration not speed.
Try to make a circle with your mouse, and then start to move faster. The circle will be bigger, and you dont want that
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So can you explain why this makes the mouse more accurate?
I did it blindly trusting you ^_^, but I'd appreciate a little more info on exactly what I just did.
Thanks!
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I'd like to see the sources you got this info from.
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On January 01 2012 12:40 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
So can you explain why this makes the mouse more accurate?
I did it blindly trusting you ^_^, but I'd appreciate a little more info on exactly what I just did.
Thanks!
The way it was explained to me is that, with direct response (no acceleration) your brain only has to account for one thing: where you're moving the mouse. With acceleration, your brain has to account for where the mouse is moving and how fast you're moving there. This makes it inaccurate because if you're trying to play fast, you can't account on the fly for how fast you're actually moving, and therefore your accuracy will fluctuate, because you will be expecting the cursor to be moving at a certain speed where in fact it'll actually be moving farther than you want it to because you're moving too fast or shorter than what you're aiming for because you took too long to move the mouse. Conversely, no matter how slow or fast you move your mouse to a given location, you'll end up on the target every time. Also if you tend to move your mouse faster in one direction, say to the right, your mouse will move less when you make right hand movements and more when you make left hand movements, forcing you inevitably to pick up your mouse and move it back to the center of the mousepad, yet another thing that doesn't happen with 0 acceleration
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On January 01 2012 12:40 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
So can you explain why this makes the mouse more accurate?
I did it blindly trusting you ^_^, but I'd appreciate a little more info on exactly what I just did.
Thanks!
It's because it allows total control over your mouse, you can move from A to B with the speed you want. Otherwise you'd have to know how fast to move to a to b WITH figuring out the variable of windows effecting your speed. It's just you, not you and windows going from A to B.
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I honestly can't tell the difference between editing the registry and just disabling "enhance pointer precision." Are you sure it makes a difference?
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ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/MouseRegistryFix.exe
That does the registry fix for you, in case you're worried about messing up your computer like I was 
On January 01 2012 12:49 B1nary wrote:
I honestly can't tell the difference between editing the registry and just disabling "enhance pointer precision." Are you sure it makes a difference?
I'm noticing a small change after already having had enhance pointer precision off for months, the registry settings are also clearly different now. It won't be life changing, but every bit off extra precision you can get is welcome I'd say.
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I'm having trouble with this. I don't seem to have a pointers options tab under my mouse. I go to control panel > devices and printers > optical usb mouse... then im lost..  sorry for being dumb haha.
Edit: Also, does this have any affect on the sensitivity settings ingame? I remember reading something that any 00 or 05 setting had lost percision but not the numbers inbetween.
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On January 01 2012 12:57 Nick.TNA wrote:I'm having trouble with this. I don't seem to have a pointers options tab under my mouse. I go to control panel > devices and printers > optical usb mouse... then im lost.. sorry for being dumb haha.
Just go to Control Panel > Mouse (switch to icon view, don't use category view)
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I use a Logitech G1 (1000 dpi) currently on a screen resolution of 1920*1080 so I had to raise the sensitivity in the Windows mouse settings and I must say, it feels nicer with the fix applied, more precise.
I doubt you would feel much of a diffference if you use 6/11 standard sens though, with a good mouse and good drivers.
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On January 01 2012 12:59 rebdomine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 12:57 Nick.TNA wrote:I'm having trouble with this. I don't seem to have a pointers options tab under my mouse. I go to control panel > devices and printers > optical usb mouse... then im lost.. sorry for being dumb haha. Just go to Control Panel > Mouse (switch to icon view, don't use category view)
Brilliant! Thanks so much! This is great. It feels super super awkward now though. Hah <3
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On January 01 2012 12:55 Saechiis wrote:ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/MouseRegistryFix.exeThat does the registry fix for you, in case you're worried about messing up your computer like I was Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 12:49 B1nary wrote:
I honestly can't tell the difference between editing the registry and just disabling "enhance pointer precision." Are you sure it makes a difference? I'm noticing a small change after already having had enhance pointer precision off for months, the registry settings are also clearly different now. It won't be life changing, but every bit off extra precision you can get is welcome I'd say.
Does this registryfix really work, can anyone confirm this?
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Yes its working. I'm using this for long time.
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I think this wont make a significant difference in precision for someone that has played with mouse precision for a long time (most have). There is a video on youtube that shows that mouse movement + keyboard actions basicly become and instinct when you practise it long enough.
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Day9 talked about it in one of his podcasts about mechanics but I never tried it out to deactivate mouse acceleration.
Now after reading this thread I gave it a try and wow..
I can indeed control my mouse way more precise but it will take like 1 week of missionred before I get used to it..
Thanks for the how-to!
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On January 01 2012 13:10 gosuterran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 12:55 Saechiis wrote:ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/MouseRegistryFix.exeThat does the registry fix for you, in case you're worried about messing up your computer like I was On January 01 2012 12:49 B1nary wrote:
I honestly can't tell the difference between editing the registry and just disabling "enhance pointer precision." Are you sure it makes a difference? I'm noticing a small change after already having had enhance pointer precision off for months, the registry settings are also clearly different now. It won't be life changing, but every bit off extra precision you can get is welcome I'd say. Does this registryfix really work, can anyone confirm this?
Yes it does work 
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I don't think it matters for Windows 7 and newer games such as SC2. You can go here to read up on it:
http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html
Long story short, it seems to have only mattered for older games which caused mouse acceleration to turn back on. The registry fix essentially changes it so that even if the acceleration is turned on, there is still no acceleration. Since newer games don't cause it to turn back on, the fix isn't actually doing anything.
The above link has a mouse movement recorder so you can check for yourself if your acceleration is turning back on. I ran it with SC2, and my acceleration never turned back on.
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sounds like a placebo to me imo, i've been using mouse acceleration for a decade now and I have no problem with precision or accuracy. if somethings not broke you must fix it doesn't make sense to me :S
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I'm really not sure if I should use this, I always hear it's better to turn it off, but I'm actually quite happy with my current precision and do quite well with it at high master, only feeling really slight issues, and I'm really unsure if it's worth the time of getting used to it when I'm already pretty happy atm :s
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On January 01 2012 13:31 Tyne wrote:I don't think it matters for Windows 7 and newer games such as SC2. You can go here to read up on it: http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.htmlLong story short, it seems to have only mattered for older games which caused mouse acceleration to turn back on. The registry fix essentially changes it so that even if the acceleration is turned on, there is still no acceleration. Since newer games don't cause it to turn back on, the fix isn't actually doing anything. The above link has a mouse movement recorder so you can check for yourself if your acceleration is turning back on. I ran it with SC2, and my acceleration never turned back on.
I did all the fixes he mentioned, and i assure you theres a huge difference in game. Its almost an unplayable difference atm, I have to get used to boxing all over again.
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Yeah i just did it. Huuuuuuge difference. Man. i'm gonna suck for a while.
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Can someone explain what changing the registry values actually does above and beyond what you get from turning off acceleration? Preferably in at least a semi-technical way. It was my understanding that with acceleration off there was a linear correlation between movement of the mouse and movement on the screen, only adjusted by sensitivity settings and resolution.
EDIT
On January 01 2012 13:31 Tyne wrote:I don't think it matters for Windows 7 and newer games such as SC2. You can go here to read up on it: http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.htmlLong story short, it seems to have only mattered for older games which caused mouse acceleration to turn back on. The registry fix essentially changes it so that even if the acceleration is turned on, there is still no acceleration. Since newer games don't cause it to turn back on, the fix isn't actually doing anything. The above link has a mouse movement recorder so you can check for yourself if your acceleration is turning back on. I ran it with SC2, and my acceleration never turned back on.
yeah, I see this now, so essentially the registry changes do nothing above and beyond disabling acceleration, at least with sc2.
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Just for the record every counterstrike pro turns off mouse acceleration, I can't speak about the pros in the other computer fps games but I would bet it is the same. Just something to think about.
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Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.
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On January 01 2012 14:19 YellowNRed wrote:
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.
that, and the fact that this mousefix i think got its root from FPS players. I used to play 1.6 and CSS and there was no way in hell I would play without the mousefix. during MLG and CPL, the computers provided would actually have the mousefix installed on them.
edit: to answer your question, at this point in time I don't think you can do any changes on the provided computers specially installing registry fixes :/ unless you tweak your mouse (through firmware inside the mouse) that automatically installs the said fix
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Thank you much. I turned off the control panal option a while ago and liked the results. Can finnaly finish the job.
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Had enhanced mouse accel off already so only had to do the registry thing.....I didnt notice a diffrence
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Alright, I'm just going to link the threads because this has all been discussed before. The registry edit made me think it was something new, but it isn't and this has been discussed to death:
If you have pointer precision or mouse acceleration disabled, this fix does absolutely nothing for sc2, since sc2 does not call windows functions that enable pointer precision. This registry edit works for games that DO do this by modifying the way that pointer precision/acceleration works, essentially making it do nothing despite being enabled. If you have pointer precision disabled, this registry fix will do absolutely nothing. If you keep precision or mouse acceleration on, doing this fix essentially just turns it off.
Anyways, threads on mouse settings:
How to improve efficiently, pdf, read section 6: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
Mouse sensitivity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625
Thread on enhance pointer precision: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212630
Early thread on in-game sensitivity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142026
Theres also the liquipedia article: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mouse_settings
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On January 01 2012 14:19 YellowNRed wrote:
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.
Pretty sure mouse precision is disabled at MLG, and you aren't allowed to modify the computer's settings.
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I just did this and it seems to help a little bit! I already had mouse precision turned off but i think there is still a little difference.
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I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight?
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On January 01 2012 15:35 Nick.TNA wrote:I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight?
i think most play with it off obviously, last pro i think i remember seeing it on was whitera
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On January 01 2012 14:19 YellowNRed wrote:
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.
MLG stated in their rules if i remember correctly that you cannot use mouse acceleration because they have disabled it and used the registry fix in all of their LAN PC's. They didnt want anyone to install it or re-enable because it can be difficult to remove or something
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I've had the standard checkbox for mouse acceleration disabled for almost a year now, I just applied this registry fix with the Saitek link and played a few games. I noticed absolutely 0 difference what so ever. If you guys are worried about it fucking with your computer or anything, don't bother, because the difference (if there is any at all) is so unbelievably small that you won't even notice it.
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On January 01 2012 15:40 HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 15:35 Nick.TNA wrote:I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight? i think most play with it off obviously, last pro i think i remember seeing it on was whitera
Well its not obvious to me lol. I watch you stream specifically all the time and sit in amazement at the way you box your workers so quickly though, i have to assume this makes it easier.
Thanks for the reply. I love your stream etc <3. My favorite player. Thanks for shedding the insight!
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Hm, so far I haven't really noticed a different. Is there anyway to turn it back?
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Not a placebo. I strictly use 6/11 windows speed with 1800 DPI and after the registry fix something definitely felt different when I moved the cursor. It's not that different as I'm already used to it, though you'll still have to do a bit of fine tuning on your muscle memory.
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Can someone confirm that windows 7 actually has acceleration of some sort?
I used the regfix.exe and don't really notice anything.
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You actually just fucked up my mouse.. o_o;;
The hexidecimal values are 100% correct but my mouse is flying from corner to corner.
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On January 01 2012 17:17 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Not a placebo. I strictly use 6/11 windows speed with 1800 DPI and after the registry fix something definitely felt different when I moved the cursor. It's not that different as I'm already used to it, though you'll still have to do a bit of fine tuning on your muscle memory.
Same here, It feels kind of slower now. Will test it in a few games soon.
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Can't you access all of this with the Logitech driver, for those who have it? I've turned off acceleration in there.
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On January 01 2012 17:34 Uncultured wrote:
Can someone confirm that windows 7 actually has acceleration of some sort?
I used the regfix.exe and don't really notice anything.
i think using the mouse movement recorder in markc fix is best way to see if u have acel.
it gives me 1:1 mouse: pointer movement ratio by just disabling enhanced pointer precision in win7 options.
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Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
On January 03 2012 05:08 eYeball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 17:17 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Not a placebo. I strictly use 6/11 windows speed with 1800 DPI and after the registry fix something definitely felt different when I moved the cursor. It's not that different as I'm already used to it, though you'll still have to do a bit of fine tuning on your muscle memory. Same here, It feels kind of slower now. Will test it in a few games soon.
It does make your mouse a bit slower on the same DPI, since it turns off the artificial acceleration Windows provided.
However, it makes your mouse strokes 100% predictable, which, as explained in the OP, can't be achieved with pointer enhancement turned on.
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Windows 7 doesn't need anything beyond unchecking enhanced pointer precision except for games way older than SC2.
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Thanks, im so stupid when it comes to computers, and I have been wondering why mu mouse has been so strange, now it feels so sharpe and responsive v_v
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damn it, i totally forgot about the mouse fix since i quit playing cs 1.6
definitly needed.
Now i realize why my notebook always felt different than the desktop.
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Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
On January 03 2012 05:25 oxxo wrote:
Windows 7 doesn't need anything beyond unchecking enhanced pointer precision except for games way older than SC2.
True, but fixing the registry makes your mouse behave the same regardless of what you're doing, including surfing the web or, as you mentioned, playing older games.
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Too bad there isn't a reliable way to do this on Macs... I've tried like 10 different things, and all they've done is reduce my mouse sensitivity, not actually acceleration.... yippee. D:
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Hey guys. I've had the mouse acceleration fix active for a while, and its been really great. However, I just recently bought a new mouse, and I feel like i'm getting less precision out of it. None of the settings have changed in regards to my mouse settings though, so i'm wondering if it has anything to do with the drivers the mouse installed, or perhaps its simply because its a different mouse.. Anyone have any idea? ^_^
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I just did this and WOW the difference is crazy... I've had to turn the pointer speed down a notch because the speed/distance the cursor moves when i move the mouse like 1cm is WAY faster/further than with the 'enhance pointer precision' on.
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I just applied it via the executable. It is a bit slower than it was, but it feels MUCH better. I'm amazed.
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That link on the OP doesn't work. Can't see where to click on the webpage to download it.
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Misleading title. As such, mouse precision and mouse acceleration have nothing to do with each other.
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On January 29 2012 15:33 ChoboDane wrote:
Misleading title. As such, mouse precision and mouse acceleration have nothing to do with each other.
Disabling mouse acceleration (which is labeled as, "Enhance Pointer Precision" in windows) does help increase your potential precision with your mouse. They're perfectly related.
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On January 29 2012 15:49 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:33 ChoboDane wrote:
Misleading title. As such, mouse precision and mouse acceleration have nothing to do with each other. Disabling mouse acceleration (which is labeled as, "Enhance Pointer Precision" in windows) does help increase your potential precision with your mouse. They're perfectly related.
This is a mood point. Nothing prevents you from having exactly the same mouse precision with or without mouse acceleration, but many people find it's easier without acceleration.
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On January 29 2012 15:54 ChoboDane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:49 PH wrote:On January 29 2012 15:33 ChoboDane wrote:
Misleading title. As such, mouse precision and mouse acceleration have nothing to do with each other. Disabling mouse acceleration (which is labeled as, "Enhance Pointer Precision" in windows) does help increase your potential precision with your mouse. They're perfectly related. This is a mood point. Nothing prevents you from having exactly the same mouse precision with or without mouse acceleration, but many people find it's easier without acceleration.
You are being pedantic, and your arguing over semantics contributes nothing to this thread. You're not going to magically gain extra DPI, no, but the vast majority of people will find it easier to quickly point at what they want to point at, i.e. their mouse accuracy will be improved.
Also, it's 'moot', not 'mood'.
EDIT: did not apply registry change, as it appears my 64-bit win7 installation has a different key structure from the one described in the OP. However, turning windows 'pointer precision' off is something I would absolutely recommend.
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Another thread about mouse acceleration. But why this one have 4 pages?
Is this a kind of "we have to discuss this all 2 month thing?"
Try this next time:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=mouse acceleration
Also for different windows you have to do it in different ways.
Just google
"YOURWINDOWSVERSION disable mouse acceleration"
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Is the registry edit actually significant?
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Its a good fix, and if you play fps games this is necessary (for most people at least) to get good aiming skills. In sc2 I think it is not that critical, since keyboard mechanics are more important, but still its a little better to play without mouse acceleration.
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So weird. I had the "pointer precision" thing off and yet doing this trick did change the way the cursor responds... I'll need some time to get used to it but I think I'll like it :D
Thanks !
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is there an alternative download available? the site is slow as hell
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On January 01 2012 15:10 caradoc wrote:
... If you have pointer precision or mouse acceleration disabled, this fix does absolutely nothing for sc2, since sc2 does not call windows functions that enable pointer precision ...
If you have enabled raw input in the SC 2 options, you would not need the fix for playing SC 2. But I guess acceleration would be a problem, if raw input were not enabled ...
Also, you need the fix if you want to play browser games like Reflex in Windows itself ...
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Under
. Open the tree 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER', select control panel, then select mouse
I have a lot of strings each with their own control panel and smoothmouse settings?
first is .Default and then there is 10 more with different names such as "S-1-5-19" "S-1-5-20" etc
what?!
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Wow, I have no clue if it's a placebo effect or something, I have turned mouse acceleration off in win7 since a couple of years already, but now after applying your tweak registry, I somehow immediately felt a gigantic difference, in a positive way! Maybe I am crazy and believe in shit I read too quickly, however, for me it works perfectly, thanks man!! =)
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I cant tell if this is a placebo effect or not... But I think I can tell a difference, But then again that could be from me reading all the posts saying "WOW I FEEL SUCH A DIFFERENCE!"
I mean I feel a little something but nothing to where I am completely astounded... maybe I did it wrong? I dunno. either way I think it did something... and it didn't completely fuck my mouse up so yay!
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I am ashamed to admit that I have had this option checked even though I was 100% convinced I did not. I've disabled it, only now my precision feels way worse, because I was so incredibly used to what I had before. Guess I'll just practice without it? Even going back and forth between checking and unchecking the box, it hardly even feels like it has any effect at all, after I adjust the speed accordingly so they are "similar". Now I don't know what to do lol
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On January 31 2012 01:19 Duka08 wrote:
I am ashamed to admit that I have had this option checked even though I was 100% convinced I did not. I've disabled it, only now my precision feels way worse, because I was so incredibly used to what I had before. Guess I'll just practice without it? Even going back and forth between checking and unchecking the box, it hardly even feels like it has any effect at all, after I adjust the speed accordingly so they are "similar". Now I don't know what to do lol
You can't adjust the speed to make up for what you lost in acceleration. It doesn't work that way. You're just going to be overshooting small movements, and being accurate with large movements. Just pick the speed you want, play with it for 2-3 days, and you won't even notice it.
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On December 31 2011 14:15 Romitelli wrote:
SmoothMouseXCurve: ...
SmoothMouseYCurve: ...
38,33,15,00,00,00,00,00
This works and does remove Windows Control Panel acceleration when a game turns "Enhance pointer precision" on.
(Note: SC2 does not need a mousefix, just turn "Enhance pointer precision" OFF in the control panel.)
BUT this is the old CPL mouse fix, which does not have exact 1-to-1 sensitivity between mouse movement and pointer movement. On Windows 7, TextSize=100%, 6/11, CPL has a sensitivity multiplier of × 0.775, rather than × 1.0
It is better to use the Cheese Fix (XP & Vista) that matches your in-game monitor refresh rate, or to use my MarkC Windows 7 Mouse Fix (Windows 7), as these have exact 1-to-1: A multipler of × 1.0
(The program MouseRegistryFix.exe, ALSO just applies the CPL Fix (and turns "Enhance pointer precision" OFF).)
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As a tournament organizer we use the stuff that MarkC makes and the tool called rinput. I know that many tournament organizers in the world uses these two tools (at least WCG,ESWC,IEM). I host many tools on my ftp.
Mouse tools are more common in the FPS-esports community since precision is simply more important. About 90% of the pro CS players use 500hz usb refreshrate and markc or rinput to prevent mouse-acceleration. Players won't play if mouse acceleration is somehow still working. Being a tournament organizer for many years, i can deviantly tell you its a skill/knowledge how to work with these tools and keep yourself up to date.
I've seen a few SC2 players using it, but not many. Some are afraid to get used to it and not able to reproduce their settings on other tournament pc's. Maybe its a matter of time, maybe not. But I guess CS professional players are a bit more technical skilled on this matter.
One thing is for sure, using proper usb-refreshrate and having no acceleration increases your accuracy. 10 years ago, when i started organizing, some people played with some without. These days there is not a single pro that still plays with acceleration or 125 usb hz. And now everyone realised that it is extremely important to fix your pc with proper settings.
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On January 03 2012 05:01 Kluey wrote:
You actually just fucked up my mouse.. o_o;;
The hexidecimal values are 100% correct but my mouse is flying from corner to corner.
If you had acceleration enabled and now disabled it, it means your mouse speed will be higher too.
Try lowering the sensitivity after your adjustment.
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Wow this fields weird.
I actually feel the muscles in my hand struggling to adjust to the change.
I can see how it would increase mouse accuracy.
Now to click around in Chrome to get used to it.
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Holy shit, thank you. As a new member I hadn't seen this posted before. I can't wait to get some games in tomorrow with a more precise mouse!
To bed for now...
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Man it feels so great, I was stuck on lvl 17 for marine split challenge, just jumped to lvl 21 )
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Wtf, I always had it turned off, but when I just went to check it was on again... I'll have to check back on that more often i guess -.-
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Any way to turn Rinput on all the time? It's slightly annoying if the mouse speed is different in game and outside
Edit: Also is it normal if my mouse moves differently using rinput and without, even though mouse accel is off(checked with markc) both times?
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Thanks, this somehow made a huge difference, i feel much more in control now :D
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My cheap mouse moved through the cursor so quickly, but now it moves like a slug with this acceleration off, and I can't adjust the DPI
Might as well wait till my Abyssus comes I guess
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This is actually the method you use when you want a customised mouse acceleration. You can of course customize it to be linear.
In my experience, you shouldn't need to edit the registry to turn mouse accel off completely. I mean, I have the standard values in the registry, not yours. When testing, There is definitely no acceleration.
(Move mouse slowly to the right, move quickly back left to same point on mousepad: My pointer is at starting position again. It shouldn't be if acceleration was on.)
I suppose it's also possible it's just Logitech SetPoint overriding Windows 7 in my case.
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This changes absolutely nothing when you have mouse acceleration turned off. It simply modifies the transformation curve for when mouse acceleration is actually on. If you have mouse acceleration off, this will not change anything.
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can i ask in the game setting
there is a thing you can check and it says something like improve mouse precision or some sort like that
which warn you FPS may drop when enable
i hope anyone can understand which im talking about since i no using english SC2
is that help with mouse or bad like the windows one?
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On March 20 2012 10:51 caradoc wrote:
This changes absolutely nothing when you have mouse acceleration turned off. It simply modifies the transformation curve for when mouse acceleration is actually on. If you have mouse acceleration off, this will not change anything.
This exactly, and a few other caveats. The OP is simply presenting the already very well known CPL mousefix to everyone, which should not be used at all due to some 1:1 mapping problems when acceleration is enabled. Furthermore what caradoc said is right, unless you are using mouse acceleration, there will be no change in how your mouse performs. The only actual change here is that the acceleration curve is now completely linear, and not sort of resembling cubic growth.
So the only reason that you should ever use these registry edits (aside from XP/Vista only for the Cheese Fix, and MarkC for Win7) is if the game you are using enables acceleration, which is as far as I know only done by much older games like Quake 1+2, and CS1.6, but definitely not SC2.
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I just did this and there is definitely a HUGE noticeable difference in my mouse movement...it'll take a while to get used to, but I think I like the new feel. I'm using a Razer Deathadder at 1800 dpi
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Having no knowledge of mouse settings, I just turned off my acceleration to find I had to move my mouse across the whole desk to play. Uh oh. Had to turn up my sensitivity just to make it bearable for now, but looks like it's time to invest in some higher DPI otherwise clicking on banelings is going to be impossible
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How do i revert this?, i want to revert this so bad...
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EPT
