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Nick.TNA
Profile Joined June 2010
209 Posts
January 01 2012 04:30 GMT
#21
On January 01 2012 13:10 gosuterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 12:55 Saechiis wrote:
ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/MouseRegistryFix.exe

That does the registry fix for you, in case you're worried about messing up your computer like I was

On January 01 2012 12:49 B1nary wrote:
I honestly can't tell the difference between editing the registry and just disabling "enhance pointer precision." Are you sure it makes a difference?


I'm noticing a small change after already having had enhance pointer precision off for months, the registry settings are also clearly different now. It won't be life changing, but every bit off extra precision you can get is welcome I'd say.


Does this registryfix really work, can anyone confirm this?


Yes it does work
Tyne
Profile Joined March 2010
3 Posts
January 01 2012 04:31 GMT
#22
I don't think it matters for Windows 7 and newer games such as SC2. You can go here to read up on it:

http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html

Long story short, it seems to have only mattered for older games which caused mouse acceleration to turn back on. The registry fix essentially changes it so that even if the acceleration is turned on, there is still no acceleration. Since newer games don't cause it to turn back on, the fix isn't actually doing anything.

The above link has a mouse movement recorder so you can check for yourself if your acceleration is turning back on. I ran it with SC2, and my acceleration never turned back on.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 04:40:30
January 01 2012 04:32 GMT
#23
sounds like a placebo to me imo, i've been using mouse acceleration for a decade now and I have no problem with precision or accuracy. if somethings not broke you must fix it doesn't make sense to me :S
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SlySly
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany62 Posts
January 01 2012 04:34 GMT
#24
I'm really not sure if I should use this, I always hear it's better to turn it off, but I'm actually quite happy with my current precision and do quite well with it at high master, only feeling really slight issues, and I'm really unsure if it's worth the time of getting used to it when I'm already pretty happy atm :s
Nick.TNA
Profile Joined June 2010
209 Posts
January 01 2012 04:42 GMT
#25
On January 01 2012 13:31 Tyne wrote:
I don't think it matters for Windows 7 and newer games such as SC2. You can go here to read up on it:

http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html

Long story short, it seems to have only mattered for older games which caused mouse acceleration to turn back on. The registry fix essentially changes it so that even if the acceleration is turned on, there is still no acceleration. Since newer games don't cause it to turn back on, the fix isn't actually doing anything.

The above link has a mouse movement recorder so you can check for yourself if your acceleration is turning back on. I ran it with SC2, and my acceleration never turned back on.


I did all the fixes he mentioned, and i assure you theres a huge difference in game. Its almost an unplayable difference atm, I have to get used to boxing all over again.
Tingles
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia225 Posts
January 01 2012 04:48 GMT
#26
Yeah i just did it. Huuuuuuge difference. Man. i'm gonna suck for a while.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 04:56:36
January 01 2012 04:53 GMT
#27
Can someone explain what changing the registry values actually does above and beyond what you get from turning off acceleration? Preferably in at least a semi-technical way. It was my understanding that with acceleration off there was a linear correlation between movement of the mouse and movement on the screen, only adjusted by sensitivity settings and resolution.

EDIT

On January 01 2012 13:31 Tyne wrote:
I don't think it matters for Windows 7 and newer games such as SC2. You can go here to read up on it:

http://donewmouseaccel.blogspot.com/2010/03/markc-windows-7-mouse-acceleration-fix.html

Long story short, it seems to have only mattered for older games which caused mouse acceleration to turn back on. The registry fix essentially changes it so that even if the acceleration is turned on, there is still no acceleration. Since newer games don't cause it to turn back on, the fix isn't actually doing anything.

The above link has a mouse movement recorder so you can check for yourself if your acceleration is turning back on. I ran it with SC2, and my acceleration never turned back on.


yeah, I see this now, so essentially the registry changes do nothing above and beyond disabling acceleration, at least with sc2.
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vatix
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
January 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#28
Just for the record every counterstrike pro turns off mouse acceleration, I can't speak about the pros in the other computer fps games but I would bet it is the same. Just something to think about.
FrOsTyy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States125 Posts
January 01 2012 05:19 GMT
#29
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.
I'd love to get your help!
trest
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 05:33:08
January 01 2012 05:30 GMT
#30
On January 01 2012 14:19 YellowNRed wrote:
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.


that, and the fact that this mousefix i think got its root from FPS players. I used to play 1.6 and CSS and there was no way in hell I would play without the mousefix. during MLG and CPL, the computers provided would actually have the mousefix installed on them.

edit: to answer your question, at this point in time I don't think you can do any changes on the provided computers specially installing registry fixes :/ unless you tweak your mouse (through firmware inside the mouse) that automatically installs the said fix
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Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 05:54:04
January 01 2012 05:53 GMT
#31
Thank you much. I turned off the control panal option a while ago and liked the results. Can finnaly finish the job.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
January 01 2012 06:09 GMT
#32
Had enhanced mouse accel off already so only had to do the registry thing.....I didnt notice a diffrence
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 09:10:13
January 01 2012 06:10 GMT
#33
Alright, I'm just going to link the threads because this has all been discussed before. The registry edit made me think it was something new, but it isn't and this has been discussed to death:

If you have pointer precision or mouse acceleration disabled, this fix does absolutely nothing for sc2, since sc2 does not call windows functions that enable pointer precision. This registry edit works for games that DO do this by modifying the way that pointer precision/acceleration works, essentially making it do nothing despite being enabled. If you have pointer precision disabled, this registry fix will do absolutely nothing. If you keep precision or mouse acceleration on, doing this fix essentially just turns it off.

Anyways, threads on mouse settings:

How to improve efficiently, pdf, read section 6: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
Mouse sensitivity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625
Thread on enhance pointer precision: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212630
Early thread on in-game sensitivity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142026

Theres also the liquipedia article: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mouse_settings
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
January 01 2012 06:14 GMT
#34
On January 01 2012 14:19 YellowNRed wrote:
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.

Pretty sure mouse precision is disabled at MLG, and you aren't allowed to modify the computer's settings.
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LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
January 01 2012 06:33 GMT
#35
I just did this and it seems to help a little bit! I already had mouse precision turned off but i think there is still a little difference.
Nick.TNA
Profile Joined June 2010
209 Posts
January 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#36
I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight?
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
January 01 2012 06:40 GMT
#37
On January 01 2012 15:35 Nick.TNA wrote:
I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight?



i think most play with it off obviously, last pro i think i remember seeing it on was whitera
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
January 01 2012 06:49 GMT
#38
On January 01 2012 14:19 YellowNRed wrote:
Here is my issue. LAN. If we do this fix and get used to it (i did it and it does in deed feel different, will we be able to make these same changes on a computer at say... MLG. And is there a quicker way to do it.because this took me a couple kins to get done.



MLG stated in their rules if i remember correctly that you cannot use mouse acceleration because they have disabled it and used the registry fix in all of their LAN PC's. They didnt want anyone to install it or re-enable because it can be difficult to remove or something
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Tazerenix
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia340 Posts
January 01 2012 06:53 GMT
#39
I've had the standard checkbox for mouse acceleration disabled for almost a year now, I just applied this registry fix with the Saitek link and played a few games. I noticed absolutely 0 difference what so ever. If you guys are worried about it fucking with your computer or anything, don't bother, because the difference (if there is any at all) is so unbelievably small that you won't even notice it.
Nick.TNA
Profile Joined June 2010
209 Posts
January 01 2012 07:00 GMT
#40
On January 01 2012 15:40 HuK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 15:35 Nick.TNA wrote:
I'd be interested to know if pros play with mouse precision on or off. Any pros reading this that could shed some insight?



i think most play with it off obviously, last pro i think i remember seeing it on was whitera


Well its not obvious to me lol. I watch you stream specifically all the time and sit in amazement at the way you box your workers so quickly though, i have to assume this makes it easier.

Thanks for the reply. I love your stream etc <3. My favorite player. Thanks for shedding the insight!
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