Disabling mouse acceleration (which is labeled as, "Enhance Pointer Precision" in windows) does help increase your potential precision with your mouse. They're perfectly related.

ChoboDane

Denmark98 Posts

January 29 2012 06:54 GMT

#62

On January 29 2012 15:49 PH wrote:

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Disabling mouse acceleration (which is labeled as, "Enhance Pointer Precision" in windows) does help increase your potential precision with your mouse. They're perfectly related.

This is a mood point. Nothing prevents you from having exactly the same mouse precision with or without mouse acceleration, but many people find it's easier without acceleration.

Hairy

United Kingdom1169 Posts

January 29 2012 10:49 GMT

#63

On January 29 2012 15:54 ChoboDane wrote:

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This is a mood point. Nothing prevents you from having exactly the same mouse precision with or without mouse acceleration, but many people find it's easier without acceleration.

You are being pedantic, and your arguing over semantics contributes nothing to this thread. You're not going to magically gain extra DPI, no, but the vast majority of people will find it easier to quickly point at what they want to point at, i.e. their mouse accuracy will be improved.

Also, it's 'moot', not 'mood'.

EDIT: did not apply registry change, as it appears my 64-bit win7 installation has a different key structure from the one described in the OP. However, turning windows 'pointer precision' off is something I would absolutely recommend.

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

January 29 2012 11:17 GMT

#64

Another thread about mouse acceleration. But why this one have 4 pages?
Is this a kind of "we have to discuss this all 2 month thing?"

Try this next time:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=mouse acceleration

Also for different windows you have to do it in different ways.
Just google
"YOURWINDOWSVERSION disable mouse acceleration"

Wolf

Korea (South)3290 Posts

January 29 2012 11:39 GMT

#65

Is the registry edit actually significant?

perestain

Germany308 Posts

January 29 2012 11:53 GMT

#66

Its a good fix, and if you play fps games this is necessary (for most people at least) to get good aiming skills. In sc2 I think it is not that critical, since keyboard mechanics are more important, but still its a little better to play without mouse acceleration.

MisTryo

11 Posts

January 29 2012 12:11 GMT

#67

So weird. I had the "pointer precision" thing off and yet doing this trick did change the way the cursor responds... I'll need some time to get used to it but I think I'll like it :D

Thanks !

KazaDooM

Austria32 Posts

January 29 2012 12:21 GMT

#68

is there an alternative download available? the site is slow as hell

IPS.Blue

Germany309 Posts

January 29 2012 14:01 GMT

#69

On January 01 2012 15:10 caradoc wrote:
... If you have pointer precision or mouse acceleration disabled, this fix does absolutely nothing for sc2, since sc2 does not call windows functions that enable pointer precision ...

If you have enabled raw input in the SC 2 options, you would not need the fix for playing SC 2. But I guess acceleration would be a problem, if raw input were not enabled ...

Also, you need the fix if you want to play browser games like Reflex in Windows itself ...

doomed

Australia420 Posts

January 30 2012 10:43 GMT

#70

Under
. Open the tree 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER', select control panel, then select mouse

I have a lot of strings each with their own control panel and smoothmouse settings?

first is .Default and then there is 10 more with different names such as "S-1-5-19" "S-1-5-20" etc

what?!

Adventurekid

Sweden505 Posts

January 30 2012 10:47 GMT

#71

Thank you.

KuBa

Poland98 Posts

January 30 2012 11:03 GMT

#72

Wow, I have no clue if it's a placebo effect or something, I have turned mouse acceleration off in win7 since a couple of years already, but now after applying your tweak registry, I somehow immediately felt a gigantic difference, in a positive way! Maybe I am crazy and believe in shit I read too quickly, however, for me it works perfectly, thanks man!! =)

ShiniSama

United States103 Posts

January 30 2012 15:58 GMT

#73

I cant tell if this is a placebo effect or not... But I think I can tell a difference, But then again that could be from me reading all the posts saying "WOW I FEEL SUCH A DIFFERENCE!"

I mean I feel a little something but nothing to where I am completely astounded... maybe I did it wrong? I dunno. either way I think it did something... and it didn't completely fuck my mouse up so yay!

Duka08

3391 Posts

January 30 2012 16:19 GMT

#74

I am ashamed to admit that I have had this option checked even though I was 100% convinced I did not. I've disabled it, only now my precision feels way worse, because I was so incredibly used to what I had before. Guess I'll just practice without it? Even going back and forth between checking and unchecking the box, it hardly even feels like it has any effect at all, after I adjust the speed accordingly so they are "similar". Now I don't know what to do lol

PanN

United States2828 Posts

January 30 2012 16:44 GMT

#75

On January 31 2012 01:19 Duka08 wrote:
I am ashamed to admit that I have had this option checked even though I was 100% convinced I did not. I've disabled it, only now my precision feels way worse, because I was so incredibly used to what I had before. Guess I'll just practice without it? Even going back and forth between checking and unchecking the box, it hardly even feels like it has any effect at all, after I adjust the speed accordingly so they are "similar". Now I don't know what to do lol

You can't adjust the speed to make up for what you lost in acceleration. It doesn't work that way. You're just going to be overshooting small movements, and being accurate with large movements. Just pick the speed you want, play with it for 2-3 days, and you won't even notice it.

MarktheC

2 Posts

February 05 2012 09:51 GMT

#76

On December 31 2011 14:15 Romitelli wrote:
SmoothMouseXCurve: ...
SmoothMouseYCurve: ...
38,33,15,00,00,00,00,00

This works and does remove Windows Control Panel acceleration when a game turns "Enhance pointer precision" on.
(Note: SC2 does not need a mousefix, just turn "Enhance pointer precision" OFF in the control panel.)

BUT this is the old CPL mouse fix, which does not have exact 1-to-1 sensitivity between mouse movement and pointer movement. On Windows 7, TextSize=100%, 6/11, CPL has a sensitivity multiplier of × 0.775, rather than × 1.0

It is better to use the Cheese Fix (XP & Vista) that matches your in-game monitor refresh rate, or to use my MarkC Windows 7 Mouse Fix (Windows 7), as these have exact 1-to-1: A multipler of × 1.0

(The program MouseRegistryFix.exe, ALSO just applies the CPL Fix (and turns "Enhance pointer precision" OFF).)

quakerix

Netherlands172 Posts

February 05 2012 10:12 GMT

#77

As a tournament organizer we use the stuff that MarkC makes and the tool called rinput. I know that many tournament organizers in the world uses these two tools (at least WCG,ESWC,IEM). I host many tools on my ftp.

Mouse tools are more common in the FPS-esports community since precision is simply more important. About 90% of the pro CS players use 500hz usb refreshrate and markc or rinput to prevent mouse-acceleration. Players won't play if mouse acceleration is somehow still working. Being a tournament organizer for many years, i can deviantly tell you its a skill/knowledge how to work with these tools and keep yourself up to date.

I've seen a few SC2 players using it, but not many. Some are afraid to get used to it and not able to reproduce their settings on other tournament pc's. Maybe its a matter of time, maybe not. But I guess CS professional players are a bit more technical skilled on this matter.

One thing is for sure, using proper usb-refreshrate and having no acceleration increases your accuracy. 10 years ago, when i started organizing, some people played with some without. These days there is not a single pro that still plays with acceleration or 125 usb hz. And now everyone realised that it is extremely important to fix your pc with proper settings.

kaluro

Netherlands760 Posts

March 19 2012 07:08 GMT

#78

On January 03 2012 05:01 Kluey wrote:
You actually just fucked up my mouse.. o_o;;

The hexidecimal values are 100% correct but my mouse is flying from corner to corner.

If you had acceleration enabled and now disabled it, it means your mouse speed will be higher too.
Try lowering the sensitivity after your adjustment.

zEnVy

United States446 Posts

March 19 2012 07:20 GMT

#79

Wow this fields weird.

I actually feel the muscles in my hand struggling to adjust to the change.

I can see how it would increase mouse accuracy.

Now to click around in Chrome to get used to it.

Bascal

United States30 Posts

March 19 2012 07:30 GMT

#80

Holy shit, thank you. As a new member I hadn't seen this posted before. I can't wait to get some games in tomorrow with a more precise mouse!

To bed for now...