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Zinjil
United States166 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:18 justsayinbro wrote: haha i remember one of the first GSLs where Tasteless would shamelessly plug EG like every match lol. Now that I think about it, why hasn't he been hired by another team? We know tasteless is absolutely shameless with plugging, throw him some money and get your team's name out there on GSL every night! Sponsors must love him. | ||
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ZisforZerg
United States224 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:25 ZisforZerg wrote: Hoping for EGSangHo that'd be really cool :D | ||
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zpikduM
Australia36 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:21 Zinjil wrote: Now that I think about it, why hasn't he been hired by another team? We know tasteless is absolutely shameless with plugging, throw him some money and get your team's name out there on GSL every night! Sponsors must love him. The handsome nerd sponsors TSL. | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
It'd be cool if he went back to SangHo. Killer is a terrible name. | ||
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Zinjil
United States166 Posts
Oh yeah that's right, he's on the other side of the equation now, I had completely forgotten  | ||
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
On December 28 2011 05:54 Mity wrote: Last time I checked DeMuslim is pretty damned good. Last time I checked he has won nothing of major value in sc2, let alone with EG and all the *benefit* of a training house. EG live in a very lucky world where there is no strong competition among american sc2 teams for their domestic market, and therefore they have more money than business sense. Having a useless training facility and half a deadweight roster is simply economic suicide, but they have survived (thus far). | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Anyway. IF EG are recruiting a really top end Korean player, I could see them playing the GSTL when Demu arrives in Korea. They will have 5 great players, which, while doesn't give them the depth of a Korean team, at least gives them options. | ||
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Skopey
United Kingdom70 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:37 resilve wrote: Last time I checked he has won nothing of major value in sc2, let alone with EG and all the *benefit* of a training house. EG live in a very lucky world where there is no strong competition among american sc2 teams for their domestic market, and therefore they have more money than business sense. Having a useless training facility and half a deadweight roster is simply economic suicide, but they have survived (thus far). You've obviously never watched DeMusliM stream, his micro and decision making is exceptional. He was on his way to getting really good results before he injured himself, he's now back in the swing of practice and you'll be seeing a lot from him come 2012. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:37 resilve wrote: Last time I checked he has won nothing of major value in sc2, let alone with EG and all the *benefit* of a training house. EG live in a very lucky world where there is no strong competition among american sc2 teams for their domestic market, and therefore they have more money than business sense. Having a useless training facility and half a deadweight roster is simply economic suicide, but they have survived (thus far). There aren't enough major tournaments for every amazingly good player to win. Demuslim is crazy good, and placing high in a prestigious tournament is pretty damn tough, let alone actually winning which is ridiculously hard. Don't hate on them just because they haven't taken first place. | ||
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monXikk
Poland742 Posts
http://twitter.com/#!/KillerShin/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com/DhJZZfI At first 'yeah he is in EG now', but then I read the description... On December 28 2011 08:21 Zinjil wrote: Now that I think about it, why hasn't he been hired by another team? We know tasteless is absolutely shameless with plugging, throw him some money and get your team's name out there on GSL every night! Sponsors must love him. I think he was hired by EG to arrange pro/training house for them, but later Idra decided to left Korea and the plans collapsed. Tasteless is kinda busy man with casting and voice acting[?]. Dunno he would have time to managing something for real, but yeah he is great at plugging stuff on air, idea is pretty neat ;p | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:37 resilve wrote: Last time I checked he has won nothing of major value in sc2, let alone with EG and all the *benefit* of a training house. EG live in a very lucky world where there is no strong competition among american sc2 teams for their domestic market, and therefore they have more money than business sense. Having a useless training facility and half a deadweight roster is simply economic suicide, but they have survived (thus far). how can you possibly tell that their practice house is useless? have you ever been there? do you know what practice they have there, what they do as a team to gain team spirit? you cant possibly judge that from an outsiders point of view so pls dont say stupid things critizcizing EG for having a Team House eventhoug thats clearly the future of e-sports imo | ||
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SonKiE
United States167 Posts
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CallousCarter
United Kingdom81 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:37 resilve wrote: Last time I checked he has won nothing of major value in sc2, let alone with EG and all the *benefit* of a training house. EG live in a very lucky world where there is no strong competition among american sc2 teams for their domestic market, and therefore they have more money than business sense. Having a useless training facility and half a deadweight roster is simply economic suicide, but they have survived (thus far). Yes! Business suicide is becoming the premier North American team with a glut of sponsors and constant growth. Thanks for the lesson Bill Gates. Look, I can understand the criticisms directed at EG when they poach players but all the other stuff is just nonsense in my opinion. There's not one single Starcraft team where every player has won a major tournament. Every team has players that are below the skill levels of some of the others; that's every foreign team and every Korean team. I could list examples but if you look at the team rosters on liquidpedia I'm sure you can see for yourself. I also don't understand how EG as an organisation can be criticised for providing their players with a great environment to train in. If you were to say to Axslav, Strifecro, Incontrol etc that you were disappointed with their results and hoped they'd do better i'm sure they would agree with you, but improving takes time and as long as they remain dedicated you never know when they might have a breakout performance and go on a winning streak. However to suggest the Team house is a waste of money because every EG player isn't winning money or the players without a major result should be dropped is ludicrous. It's not as if EG players are the only people in a teamhouse. Every major tournament there's Koreans flying over to compete and foreigners who have spent time training in Korea or foreigners that have spent a months training in a teamhouse in a Korean, the reign teamhouse, the Swedish teamhouse etc etc.... To expect them to be dominating the foreign tournament scene is silly. I can't comment on the specifics of their financials or how well they utilise the teamhouse environment because I'm not privy to that king of information because I'm not privy to those kinds of details but I doubt most of you are either. What I can say is the signs are good, they're players have had major tournaments wins, their roster keeps expanding and they can afford to send their players to tournaments around the world. So most of the criticisms levied at them are unfounded and probably based on their visibility within the community rather than any solid evidence or reasoning. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On December 28 2011 10:18 Erasme wrote: I really hope it's not moon. I hope moon get picked up by a korean team, as they practice a lot better than EG. Not all of them ofc, but MVP/SlayerS. EG lives with Slayers. Whoever EG picks up will practice with Slayers and get all the benefits of Slayers with the added bonus of sponsorship money from EG. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On December 28 2011 09:58 sVnteen wrote: how can you possibly tell that their practice house is useless? have you ever been there? do you know what practice they have there, what they do as a team to gain team spirit? you cant possibly judge that from an outsiders point of view so pls dont say stupid things critizcizing EG for having a Team House eventhoug thats clearly the future of e-sports imo Can't be helped. EG will get criticized if they dont "develop" their own players compared to Korean teams even though its completely unreasonable. Korea has a wonderful system in place thats been working for years. Compare that system to any team outside of Korea and its not wonder every team has trouble developing talent. Btw, I'm not talking about established players who do well like Ret, Thorzain etc. I'm talking about actually developing unknown talent. On the flip side, EG will get criticized for attempting to emulate the Korea model and starting up a team house. When they actually make a strong commitment to improving their players by emulating the Korea model, they'll receive some backlash too. They'll get nailed with comments like "useless house" even though were only a few months in or something even more ignorant and extreme "EG made a bad investment because the house is too expensive." As annoying as these comments are, its apart of sports culture or anything involving passionate fans. It's always impressive to me when a team is able to conjure such love from the fans yet sparking such hatred. Its beginning to feel like a real sport. If you're a basketball fan and you live in LA, the Lakers are a prime example of this. You have die hard band wagon riders vs. the blind haters who will unreasonably root for any team that goes against the Lakers. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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IronOutlaw
United States48 Posts
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