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TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 20:40:29
December 17 2011 04:53 GMT
#1
Hi all,

I wrote this program to remind myself to watch minimap because it is a big sticking point for me. Maybe it will help someone else. I'm sure there are others out there.

The only thing it does is play a wave file every xxxx miliseconds. The wave file bundled with the executable just says "map" but you can use your own. If I add anything else to the program it will probably be volume control.

I also added the source if anyone wants to modify it.

Cheers.

edit: ravemir posted that I uploaded the debug version and not the release so the following link is now the release build.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35896399/MapReminderv1.exe


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35896399/source.zip
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 17 2011 05:02 GMT
#2
That's actually pretty helpful!
I want to point out that this little app will also be helpful to LoL/Dota players as well
ins(out)side
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
220 Posts
December 17 2011 07:30 GMT
#3
Oh man Ive been waiting for something like this! Great stuff, thanks!
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
December 17 2011 07:33 GMT
#4
Every time i try to open it i get "The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Pleast see the application even log or use the command-line sxstrace.exe tool from more detail.
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
December 17 2011 07:39 GMT
#5
Thank god! I was waiting for someone to come out with another program that will make me think I'm improving
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
December 17 2011 07:42 GMT
#6
On December 17 2011 16:39 Stropheum wrote:
Thank god! I was waiting for someone to come out with another program that will make me think I'm improving


lol , "will make me feel like i'm improving " , was that sarcasm stroph? :-P , Nice program, although I think it just will make you watching mini map less effective if you start using it, do you plan on using this forever? Knowing to naturally look at the mini map is better. Really nice program and nice contribution to the community for those who want to just use it for awhile to improve this sort of thing.
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Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 08:29:00
December 17 2011 08:28 GMT
#7
Alright so the best way to actually start learning to look at the minimap is turning off the sound. You'll lose the first few games to silly drops but because you're forced to use your eyes to find incoming danger to react to it you have to use the minimap.

Looking at the minimap isn't like injecting or something. It's something that you actually unconsiously have to do.

Glad you're helping the community out though, hope people will get better with it
TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
December 17 2011 08:36 GMT
#8
Playing like 1 out of 10 games with sound off will improve your minimap awareness bigtime. Though im sure this application is helpful too :D
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
December 17 2011 08:40 GMT
#9
Some may say that this won't help them, but I think it's a lot like the metronome idea when you practice a musical instrument. Obviously, when you perform, you don't want to have the metronome on. But when you practice, especially as a beginner, it helps you to develop correct habits. I wanna try this out. Excellent idea and props to you for making it happen! :D
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
December 17 2011 18:09 GMT
#10
On December 17 2011 16:42 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 16:39 Stropheum wrote:
Thank god! I was waiting for someone to come out with another program that will make me think I'm improving


lol , "will make me feel like i'm improving " , was that sarcasm stroph? :-P , Nice program, although I think it just will make you watching mini map less effective if you start using it, do you plan on using this forever? Knowing to naturally look at the mini map is better. Really nice program and nice contribution to the community for those who want to just use it for awhile to improve this sort of thing.



I'm not sure if the program will do more damage than good. I just watch the minimap very little now. I figure this could help
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
December 17 2011 18:10 GMT
#11
On December 17 2011 16:33 Boblhead wrote:
Every time i try to open it i get "The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Pleast see the application even log or use the command-line sxstrace.exe tool from more detail.


you are probably missing .NET 2.0 or something
-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
December 17 2011 18:20 GMT
#12
Idk if this is really the best bet for minimap awareness. I think you should just play lots and consciously focus on watching the minimap even if it means you sacrifice other aspects of your gameplay just to improve on that one point. Then eventually you will be able to multitask better.
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
December 17 2011 18:23 GMT
#13
Something that improved my minimap awareness immensely was teamgames. 3v3 and 4v4 requires quite a bit of minimap checking to have any clue what's happening. It's quite fun as well.
Finality
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
172 Posts
December 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#14
Things like this are really useful, thanks for posting this.

I remember back when me and my friend used to play bw for fun I made just a file that played a piano riff and said "Spam units" and looped it for my friend to help him remember to macro.
Looks like their efforts... were in Vayne. (*sunglasses* YEAAAAAAAAA)
Eliwood5837
Profile Joined July 2011
245 Posts
December 17 2011 18:32 GMT
#15
Well you can just turn off the sound for better minimap awareness because i turned off sound for sc2 after i just got annoyed by it and now i check the minimap by instinct. And i didnt turn off the sound so i could focus on the minimap, it just happened by coincidence really
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jemag
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 19:04:04
December 17 2011 18:33 GMT
#16
you are a baller sir


Edit : yeah I get the same problem too :
Every time i try to open it i get "The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Pleast see the application even log or use the command-line sxstrace.exe tool from more detail.


Edit2: I have all the C++ redistributables updated and here's the event log :

"Activation context generation failed for "C:\Users\Alexandre Desjardins\Desktop\MapReminderv1.exe". Dependent Assembly Microsoft.VC90.DebugCRT,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="9.0.21022.8" could not be found. Please use sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis."
terriBean
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada75 Posts
December 17 2011 18:38 GMT
#17
You should make it a wave file saying "MAKE WORKERS AND SUPPLY" :D
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 17 2011 18:42 GMT
#18
Thanks, I will probably not use it but I can see many people finding it useful.

I wonder if we will get the same¨is it cheating or not?¨ debate every time something like this pops up
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Willsonite
Profile Joined August 2011
Ireland31 Posts
December 17 2011 18:49 GMT
#19
Very nice program man , little stuff like this can be very handy for the newer players
Hydrox911
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom261 Posts
December 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#20
Playing this with it set to 500 ms makes me feel Korean,
No, Your Quote.
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
December 17 2011 19:26 GMT
#21
Do we need Visual Studio due to the Debugging components you left in the program?
"more gg, more skill"
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
December 17 2011 20:08 GMT
#22
On December 18 2011 04:26 ravemir wrote:
Do we need Visual Studio due to the Debugging components you left in the program?


I uploaded the release version, thanks for pointing that out.
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
December 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#23
It works now, thanks.

Simple, yet effective, I'll try it out tonight.
"more gg, more skill"
Marooned
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway161 Posts
December 17 2011 20:41 GMT
#24
On December 18 2011 03:52 Hydrox911 wrote:
Playing this with it set to 500 ms makes me feel Korean,


Makes me go insane :D If you spend the time looking at your minimap and your food/money every 500 ms you dont have time to actually watch anything else. A better program for that purpose might be just blacking out everything other then your hud. ..or tape a peice of paper over your monitor everywhere except minimap/food stock. At least then you dont need to listen to MAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAP!!
Saiton
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden467 Posts
December 17 2011 20:49 GMT
#25
Cheers for doing this, but i fear it won't help very much once they turn it off again. That's why i stopped using a similar software to remind me of larva injects.
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TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 21:18:50
December 17 2011 21:18 GMT
#26
On December 18 2011 05:41 Marooned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 03:52 Hydrox911 wrote:
Playing this with it set to 500 ms makes me feel Korean,


Makes me go insane :D If you spend the time looking at your minimap and your food/money every 500 ms you dont have time to actually watch anything else. A better program for that purpose might be just blacking out everything other then your hud. ..or tape a peice of paper over your monitor everywhere except minimap/food stock. At least then you dont need to listen to MAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAP!!


you can change the frequency... adjust the delay to be higher
Marooned
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway161 Posts
December 17 2011 21:19 GMT
#27
Yeah.. Doesnt really work. If your goal is to train your eyes at moving down there every 2500ms via muscle memory you will get a nasty twitching sideeffect that carries over to other aspects of your life;) Building patterns where you are whatching the minimap every time you move your army around and watching minimap and food every time you build units for example is a much better way long term I think. But by all means, maybe some will find this very usefull and not distracting at all
Marooned
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway161 Posts
December 17 2011 21:23 GMT
#28
On December 18 2011 06:18 TyPsi5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 05:41 Marooned wrote:
On December 18 2011 03:52 Hydrox911 wrote:
Playing this with it set to 500 ms makes me feel Korean,


Makes me go insane :D If you spend the time looking at your minimap and your food/money every 500 ms you dont have time to actually watch anything else. A better program for that purpose might be just blacking out everything other then your hud. ..or tape a peice of paper over your monitor everywhere except minimap/food stock. At least then you dont need to listen to MAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAPMAP!!


you can change the frequency... adjust the delay to be higher


Well of course As you problably know since you made the program its set to 2500ms by default if I remember correctly. Was just commenting on the guy feeling Korean by setting it to 500.....
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 17 2011 23:42 GMT
#29
This is very helpful.
Thank you sir
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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