GOMTV Announcement regarding NaNiWa - Page 69

On December 15 2011 07:57 Chill wrote:

Yea maybe. If you announce something it's assumed that it's continuing unless you cancel it or announce a modification.

That's actually a pretty lame response, just like i expected it. They think they're 100% correct and only blame NaNiwa.

On December 15 2011 12:23 hmunkey wrote:
Umm... a lot of what the OP just said goes against all their previous press releases and all of MLG's previous press releases on the matter.

OP is literally lying.

On December 15 2011 12:23 bobohobo wrote:
GOM never released a statement saying that Naniwa got code S, it was always MLG that said it. People should stop crapping on GOM for what MLG said. We need to wait for MLG's official position on this matter to get the whole picture. It is entirely possible that there was miscommunication between GOM and MLG.

Second, GOM released their new GSL format back in OCTOBER which clearly indicates two international seed invites. Nowhere does it mention the exchange program with MLG. In any case, I'm leaning towards GOM and MLG not communication this well enough to the community rather than GOM lying about it.

On December 15 2011 06:33 GOMTV wrote:
Not only progamers, but professional athletes in every sports prove and showcase their skill through the game and by doing so entertain their fans. Since professional athletes do this for a living, competing in tournaments is a means to make money in order to sustain themselves. While money is an essential factor in a professional athlete’s life, it is the sincere competitive spirit that enables a mere athlete to become a professional athlete. This spirit entails the will to improve, work hard and try one's best no matter what. It also encompasses a mutual respect between those who share the title of professional athlete, which consequently leads to a certain code of professional conduct. It is this underlying competitive spirit, which goes beyond and is unrelated to any amount of prize money, of every professional athlete that touches and entertains many fans. We believe that the reason why so many people are such avid fans of baseball, soccer or e-sports has next to nothing to do with money. Korean e-sports fans generally share this understanding of the term 'professional athlete’ or in this case 'progamer', and might be less likely to tolerate a deviation from these core values compared to overseas communities.

On December 15 2011 12:36 esaul17 wrote:
GOM switching the rules like this behind everyone's back seems far less professional than anything Naniwa did.

On December 15 2011 12:30 niwhsa wrote:
I think GOM went easy on Naniwa. This is professional gaming, for professional. If Naniwa has a problem with the trounament, he should either work it out with GOM ahead of time or play like a professional or deal with it later. That is a professional way of dealing with it, not acting like kid and demanding everything go his way. Acting like that in the middle of the tournament is very disrespectful to GOM and Nestea too. Also, the sponsor and team is paying him to play games and entertain the masses. They do not pay him to entertain himself. A simple example would be working at a fast food restaurant; you are paid to work and make burger, but because Naniwa did not feel like it, he just stands next to grill, not even putting an effort. It was interesting to see that Quantic did not take any action but rather defended him (I personally have not read their statement, but noticed while reading threads), which in contrast to the Asian counterpart, personally took Coca out of Code S. Since Quantic did not step up, GOM had to. Also, I gained more respect for Boxer's and Slayer's leadership in the way they handled their situation.

Also, if you are to play in Asia, you have to understand their culture, not the other way around. Its absurd to say its unreasonable to expect professionals to behave in an appropriate manner when they are a guest at another country. Asian culture value respectful behavior which Naniwa did not display. Overall, I do not think that GOM over reacted but Naniwa should not be pursued like a witch either. Everyone makes mistake; he must learn from his mistake and make a better professional gamer out of himself.

On December 15 2011 12:30 Golgotha wrote:



lol you helpless fools. if Naniwa never really had Code S status, then why did GOM stealth change some of their previous announcements just hours ago? Huh? huh? Yeah I thought so.

On December 15 2011 12:41 ExO_ wrote:


You have got to be kidding me. You think not playing a meaningless match is comparable to not flipping burgers when you are hired as a burger flipper? This is clearly inaccurate, and biased.

Also culture does not excuse you from bending rules. GOMtv promised a Code S spot, and is now trying to resend on that promise. Saying "you have to understand their culture" is not an excuse for what GOM is doing. Is it okay in Korean culture to lie and manipulate as long as the disrespectful are punished? I think not

On December 15 2011 12:38 J.E.G. wrote:


This argument is irrelevant and invalid, yet seems to be that basis of GOMtv's decision to eject Naniwa from the first Code S season of 2012. Athletes get paid significantly more money that pro-gamers and are not punished nearly as severely as Naniwa has been.

Professional athletes get paid exponentially more money than any sc2 pro-gamer does (i say sc2 b/c Flash is balling out of control), not only because of their skill level, but also to appear professional in regards to the tremendous amount of media exposure they endure during both the season and off-season of said sport. Imagine being any player that has to go into the press room after a close loss to a rival and give a speech about why they lost, what it means for the team, do they suck now, etc.

On December 15 2011 12:41 ExO_ wrote:

Also culture does not excuse you from bending rules. GOMtv promised a Code S spot, and is now trying to resend on that promise. Saying "you have to understand their culture" is not an excuse for what GOM is doing. Is it okay in Korean culture to lie and manipulate as long as the disrespectful are punished? I think not