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RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
December 11 2011 15:37 GMT
#81
what dont people understand, he did int break a system or glitch anything. he was in GM in the first place and since you cant be demoted unless your bonus pool is 180 he got alot of losses on purpose and decided to get easy wins. Now his MMR isnt going to be high for next season so gl to him getting back in.
BlitchizSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States306 Posts
December 11 2011 15:46 GMT
#82
laughing so hard. I will give buki a hug irl for all you TLers. lololool.
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XiVol
Profile Joined September 2010
Wales74 Posts
December 11 2011 15:46 GMT
#83
Pointless topic is pointless and should be deleted.


tl;dr topic- OP thinks that "mBnBuki" gamed the ladder system by intentionally losing then got into Grandmaster by getting a win streak of 32-3. This was all speculation as Buki was already in GM before intentionally losing his games (which some people are against) so now this thread is all nonsense talking and complaining.
Qibla
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia343 Posts
December 11 2011 15:55 GMT
#84
I saw buki play Tyler on his stream about a month or two ago. Thought it was weird reading a thread about him not earning his GM spot.
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coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:00:22
December 11 2011 15:59 GMT
#85
On December 11 2011 21:45 Speece wrote:
According to sc2ranks, he has been in GM for the whole season.


Yeah no need to get your panties in a bunch OP, maybe you should've read the ladder guide thread before taking your time to take those screenshots and start the thread.

He just lost a bunch of games in a row for some reason, and since you don't get kicked out for having low mmr and only for accumulating bonus pool, he wasn't removed from the division. You can rest assured that if his mmr doesn't get back up to gm level next season, he won't get in. No big deal..


Looks like lots of people in this thread have no clue about this and you're trying to discredit the NA gm ladder
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
December 11 2011 16:01 GMT
#86
Way to be fixated on treating some guy like crap by making a whole community think he's illegitimate!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 11 2011 16:03 GMT
#87
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.
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BlitchizSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States306 Posts
December 11 2011 16:04 GMT
#88
On December 12 2011 01:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.



totally agree ^_^
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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
December 11 2011 16:05 GMT
#89
How can a master level T losse 3 games in 35 vs bronze/silver o.o
Also... stupid ladder system with no demote GM is stupid
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7326 Posts
December 11 2011 16:16 GMT
#90
On December 12 2011 01:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.




Have said this from the get go. Its pretty bullshit. Kinda ruins motivation for playing ladder.
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Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
December 11 2011 16:22 GMT
#91
On December 12 2011 01:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.


Yeah that actually makes WAY more sense than this current system... honestly there are so many secret rules to the GM league and MMR in general that I'm not even sure if blizzard knows what's going on here.
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FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1048 Posts
December 11 2011 16:26 GMT
#92
On December 12 2011 01:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.


x2 this.

Locking GM after one week of play is redundant. There are individuals like Jinro pointed out that are in masters but ranked top 200 over current "GM" players.
mBnBuki
Profile Joined December 2011
7 Posts
December 11 2011 16:27 GMT
#93
On December 12 2011 00:46 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
laughing so hard. I will give buki a hug irl for all you TLers. lololool.



think i trolled too hard this time...

trolled soo hard TLers wants to ban me... That sht cra
buki
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:34:08
December 11 2011 16:33 GMT
#94
I think GM league being fixed in place is actually a good thing, but I think it should be judged on rank (MMR) at the end of the previous season. If it changed constantly you'd be getting promoted and demoted in between evey other game at top masters/bottom GM.

Also, this thread made me laugh quite a bit. ♥
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rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
December 11 2011 16:38 GMT
#95
I have seen Buki beat both Idra / Ret on their streams, regardless, he deserves to be in GM
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 11 2011 16:44 GMT
#96
It would be nice if he had made a post pointing out how broken the GM system is before doing this, so as to make a point rather than whatever his reason is (which may still be to make a point, who knows).

GM has been broken since it was announced (as in, when they first explained the rules), and it was obvious then it was dumb.
Then it was actually broken this season on NA.
And then tis guy showed how broken it is conceptually.
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
December 11 2011 17:26 GMT
#97
On December 12 2011 01:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.


so true, not sure if this has been mentioned but what if he couldnt play and his Bonus pool was getting high and just had someone lose games for him to and they were roughly silver level to stay in the GM league =/
Qaz
Profile Joined August 2010
84 Posts
December 11 2011 17:31 GMT
#98
I've played this guy before. He wasn't much higher than mid master...
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#99
On December 12 2011 01:33 Iyerbeth wrote:
I think GM league being fixed in place is actually a good thing, but I think it should be judged on rank (MMR) at the end of the previous season. If it changed constantly you'd be getting promoted and demoted in between evey other game at top masters/bottom GM.

Also, this thread made me laugh quite a bit. ♥

Actually, you can create a system that demotes past a lower threshhold than the promotions. It would work the same way some mechanical rear spoilers work on cars. At 50 mph, the spoiler raises to give traction, but it doesn't go back down until the speed goes below 40. That way, it's not always going back and forth. If Blizzard would implement a system like this, say where you get kicked out of GM if you reach diamond MMR, then this would never happen and it would prevent multiple hops. The cutoff could theoretically be placed anywhere.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
December 11 2011 17:36 GMT
#100
On December 12 2011 01:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 21:35 Sadistx wrote:
The guy should be banned for throwing 130 games, not getting into GM league.

The division system is still bad and there's no reason a closed league (by number of spots) should even exist, especially if it flat out doesn't work and is exploitable like we see here.

GM should just be masters league and top200 by points should get the orange icons.

Its so retarded that they dont just fucking make top 200 of masters = GM, instead of having it be a separate GOD DAMN league.


I would imagine that people would still find a way to game the system. Although at least with the straight top 200 the damage wouldn't be for an entire season.
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