EPTNicknames? Why? - Page 2
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Guam3521 Posts
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xTNodub
United States84 Posts
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urasyupi2
United States810 Posts
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Fuzer
Finland266 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:20 xTNodub wrote: people call johnson megatron all the time. In fact i never hear them call him by his name. Detroit number 81, can't remember his frist name The difference is, They have earned their nicknames / They haven't made them up themselvs | ||
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Hollow27
United States111 Posts
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:20 xTNodub wrote: people call johnson megatron all the time. In fact i never hear them call him by his name. Detroit number 81, can't remember his frist name ummm its Calvin Johnson and a lot of people still call him that anyway ... Nicknames>>>>real names unless your announcing them as Greg "Idra" Fields or something like that | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
Starcraft 2 isn't Football or any other "conventional" sports for that matter. We should try to legitimize ESPORTS for what it is, not turn it into something else. | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:17 Dazer wrote: Because using nickname is organically part of the gaming culture and it has always been for decades. If expanding esports means to compromise certain fundamental culture of gaming then Imo it's not worth it. Really, if the usage of real names instead of monikers contributes to the fact that more pro-gamers other than just the top 10 can live off of their salaries comfortably without the need to do non-practice related activities (coach and what not) and allow for more progamers and teams to be able to afford training facilities I would switch to real names in a heart beat. It's easy for us spectators to say that we should keep gaming culture when we don't have to deal with the day to day finances of making rent and other real life financial obligations with a pro-gamer's salaries and other rather less than consistent revenue streams. And as other people have mentioned, in Korea, so call dubbed the "Mecca of eSports", pro-gamers are known by their real names. Lim Yo Hwan, Lee Jae Dong, Lim Jae Duk, Lee Young Ho, Kim Taek Young etc etc. | ||
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Dugrok
Canada377 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
They want to be called this, so let them. | ||
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nomanomayipa
Korea (South)7 Posts
For example: Greg 'IdrA' Fields or just 'IdrA' is fine. If you were to take out the 'IdrA' part I don't think that's a step in the right direction. | ||
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Syrupjuice
United States173 Posts
As there are many sports that don't use nicknames, why should we follow what conventional sports do? People seem to think that the success of esports is based around how it conforms to traditional sports. I, personally, don't believe this is the case, and feel that esports should try to maintain it's unique flare. As an example of where usernames/stagenames work really well… rap. Without looking it up, do you know who Marshall Bruce Mathers III is? Why, it's Eminem. Curtis James Jackson III? 50cent. Stagenames… they got that (though I'm not a rapper… and do not care for rap actually). But these names sum up the personalities and make them easily recognizable. Now, I can't say whether or not Stephen Bonnell II would rather go by "Stephen Bonnell II" or "Destiny," But I will say from a spectators perspective, 'Destiny' has such a flare to it, that Stephen just doesn't have. But, however, I feel that the biggest advantage to stagenames are the stories behind the names. These names follow people for so long, and the username can be presented across national boarders and languages. You can say Lim Yo-Hwan was a great Starcraft player… but if, instead, you just said the name, 'Boxer,' all of his history is summed up right there in the name. | ||
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
It adds to it. Think about it, you see a game between huk and idra and you keep hearing the caster say Chris or Greg. A person who doesn't really know Chris as Huk or Greg as Idra wouldn't be able to follow, especially in the middle of the match where he didn't hear the introductions. It just makes it easier for the audience to receive it. If they are really into it, then they would grow to learn more about who they watched play and learn the fact of who Huk/Idra/any other sc2 programer is anyway and it won't be an issue. | ||
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Bengui
Canada775 Posts
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
Also, it saves us from having to hear itmeJP absolutely butcher every asian/european name. It'd be frustrating to hear him refer to a match between "Limp Jay Duck" and "Joe-han LouCheesey". | ||
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Chrian
United States1472 Posts
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:26 echO [W] wrote: Really, if the usage of real names instead of monikers contributes to the fact that more pro-gamers other than just the top 10 can live off of their salaries comfortably without the need to do non-practice related activities (coach and what not) and allow for more progamers and teams to be able to afford training facilities I would switch to real names in a heart beat. It's easy for us spectators to say that we should keep gaming culture when we don't have to deal with the day to day finances of making rent and other real life financial obligations with a pro-gamer's salaries and other rather less than consistent revenue streams. And as other people have mentioned, in Korea, so call dubbed the "Mecca of eSports", pro-gamers are known by their real names. Lim Yo Hwan, Lee Jae Dong, Lim Jae Duk, Lee Young Ho, Kim Taek Young etc etc. Well that is a problem really, if BW had spread out more to say Europe, and many Europeans with difficult names went to Korea the Korean casters would have a hard time pronouncing the names. That to me is the biggest conflict that will keep this from happening. | ||
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On November 22 2011 12:32 Staboteur wrote: I don't think tags are even that unfamiliar to non-gamers. I mean, everyone these days uses the intornetz for various things and typically has their own special ID of some sort, be it their email address, name on some forums, or just a personal codename without any real origin. Also, it saves us from having to hear itmeJP absolutely butcher every asian/european name. It'd be frustrating to hear him refer to a match between "Limp Jay Duck" and "Joe-han LouCheesey". Good commentators learn the names of who they are casting. it shouldn't be a problem, and if they are butchering the names, that's on them for not doing their homework. | ||
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