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Flash 400k$ ? that will be fucking dream for him where from this numbers coming lol
The high school gamer with a $250,000 (300000000 Korean Won) salary: FLASH
Q: What’s your salary?
-The income includes prize money from the leagues. On the low side, it’s about 250000000 won, and it can get up to 400000000 won on the high side. Last year I got about 300000000 won.
- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095
Not that far off.
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His win rate on ladder is disgustingly good. He is nearly top of masters, with most losses coming from bomber/forgg. Whoever this guy is, he is amazing.
http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/fea/master
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Kinda BM to smurf as a famous progamer if you are one of the top players in sc2. Whoever it is said he was real hydra too. So if it isn't real hydra, bad on you! 
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On December 10 2011 15:23 RetoX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 11:26 Rikke wrote:On December 10 2011 10:30 XsebT wrote:On December 10 2011 10:18 GreEny K wrote:
If a team from BW switched to SC2, they will be the best... Simple. They already have huge sponsors and enough money to actually pay all members a high salary. The question is whether the sponsors will stick around in that case. I don't think sc2 is able to produce nearly as good viewer ratings as bw can. Getting their brand out to the masses is obviously the main goal for any sponsor. Also, I highly doubt that's hydra. Korean sponsors are a joke compared to US/EU Sponsors. A Korean team can easily get International Sponsors. Look how few results coL and Liquid deliver - and they have great sponsors. I bet EG gets more than all korean teams combined from their sponsors. SC2 will continue to grow into the international scene. Korea is only so big in sc because the international players are spread across the whole world, that makes a better version of GSL impossible. The korean economy is just not big enough. If SC2 growth alot more, Korea will no longer be the center of SC2 - because the money is in the west. ... Atm, BW teams have way more money than SC2's. Just think about salaries, they are 3x more important in BW than SC2. I guess mvp must like 40k$ a year (and i'm pretty sure he earns less), flash is around 400k$. You think SlayerS have more fans than STK1 or KT? :/
MVP has made $231,590 in under a year, from pure tournament wins. Source: http://sc2earnings.com/player/121/jeong-jong-hyeon
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How sure are people that this is real Hydra ? It might be someone else, like how MKP is smurfing saying he is Firebathero under BratQ name.
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Flash made 500K last year (Salary + Winnings). Over one million over his career.
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can someone explain to me why everyone hates KeSPA so much? Wasn't aware of the pro scene when I bw'd
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On December 11 2011 01:19 sTsCompleted wrote:
can someone explain to me why everyone hates KeSPA so much? Wasn't aware of the pro scene when I bw'd
totalitarian rule
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On December 11 2011 00:52 grudgeStar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:23 RetoX wrote:On December 10 2011 11:26 Rikke wrote:On December 10 2011 10:30 XsebT wrote:On December 10 2011 10:18 GreEny K wrote:
If a team from BW switched to SC2, they will be the best... Simple. They already have huge sponsors and enough money to actually pay all members a high salary. The question is whether the sponsors will stick around in that case. I don't think sc2 is able to produce nearly as good viewer ratings as bw can. Getting their brand out to the masses is obviously the main goal for any sponsor. Also, I highly doubt that's hydra. Korean sponsors are a joke compared to US/EU Sponsors. A Korean team can easily get International Sponsors. Look how few results coL and Liquid deliver - and they have great sponsors. I bet EG gets more than all korean teams combined from their sponsors. SC2 will continue to grow into the international scene. Korea is only so big in sc because the international players are spread across the whole world, that makes a better version of GSL impossible. The korean economy is just not big enough. If SC2 growth alot more, Korea will no longer be the center of SC2 - because the money is in the west. ... Atm, BW teams have way more money than SC2's. Just think about salaries, they are 3x more important in BW than SC2. I guess mvp must like 40k$ a year (and i'm pretty sure he earns less), flash is around 400k$. You think SlayerS have more fans than STK1 or KT? :/ MVP has made $231,590 in under a year, from pure tournament wins. Source: http://sc2earnings.com/player/121/jeong-jong-hyeon
Salary != Tournament Wins
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On December 11 2011 01:19 sTsCompleted wrote:
can someone explain to me why everyone hates KeSPA so much? Wasn't aware of the pro scene when I bw'd
They made a lot of stupid decisions in the past
so because of that people started blaming anything bad that ever happens in the BW scene on KeSPA and it just snowballed from there. I've seen a ton of events attributed to KeSPA that isn't even related to them =_=
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On December 11 2011 02:15 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 01:19 sTsCompleted wrote:
can someone explain to me why everyone hates KeSPA so much? Wasn't aware of the pro scene when I bw'd They made a lot of stupid decisions in the past so because of that people started blaming anything bad that ever happens in the BW scene on KeSPA and it just snowballed from there. I've seen a ton of events attributed to KeSPA that isn't even related to them =_=
Yup, it's pretty sad.
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On December 11 2011 02:15 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 01:19 sTsCompleted wrote:
can someone explain to me why everyone hates KeSPA so much? Wasn't aware of the pro scene when I bw'd They made a lot of stupid decisions in the past so because of that people started blaming anything bad that ever happens in the BW scene on KeSPA and it just snowballed from there. I've seen a ton of events attributed to KeSPA that isn't even related to them =_=
Maybe you could give some concrete examples of WHAT they did wrong. I'm also interested in that and just from the information that they made some bad decisions I can't imagine too much.
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On December 10 2011 22:02 rasnj wrote:According to TLPD Hydra is 신동원 which is the 2nd readable name in the top left list. No other BW pro seem to share that name. Anyway would be surprised if CJentushydra is actually Losira. Something as fundamental as assigning 1-0 to control groups at the start of the game is not just something you change unless you actively try to disguise yourself. How often do you see pros change the way they split, the way the early-game spam, their hatch hotkeys, etc. from game to game? (A: never)
+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2011 11:25 DeepBlu2 wrote:So I may look like a complete fool because I don't know how to use Sc2gears. I feel like this dosen't deserve it's own topic but here we go. So first, I asked Forgg to which he replied, no, that is not hydra. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QUit0.png) Sage had a similar response. I am completely sure this is not Hydra. However, I asked for a replay to compare it to and was told to compare it to Losira by 라푼젤(Rapunzel) (Credit goes to him) This is what I found ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5RFSs.jpg) Hotkeys match but I am confused as to how sc2gears works. So please inform me if I am wrong. And if someone knows sc2gears, please inform me.
I disagree as it is something I see a lot not something necessarily repeated which is why I'm going to obtain another replay of Hydra's and do the same thing... If you are using a smurf, admit that you are hydra, but it is found that everyone on ladder like Forgg think you are lieing, the hotkeys match another pro gamer 98%...As well as the fact that whenever asked to tweet it, he refused...Also, when I told him that he was Losira after one of his games he finally replied asking "why?"...This is after I asked him 2-3 times who he was in between games, and saying he was Losira was the only thing that made him reply..
I'm going to get another replay and prove that it is Losira.
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On December 11 2011 02:18 TensaiSakuragi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 02:15 Milkis wrote:On December 11 2011 01:19 sTsCompleted wrote:
can someone explain to me why everyone hates KeSPA so much? Wasn't aware of the pro scene when I bw'd They made a lot of stupid decisions in the past so because of that people started blaming anything bad that ever happens in the BW scene on KeSPA and it just snowballed from there. I've seen a ton of events attributed to KeSPA that isn't even related to them =_= Maybe you could give some concrete examples of WHAT they did wrong. I'm also interested in that and just from the information that they made some bad decisions I can't imagine too much.
This for exemple
Shortly after, KeSPA changed the rule so that only "ppp", "gg", and "GG" are allowed to be typed in without being disqualified. BackHo was also GoRush's opponent during his disqualification from the 2009 Bacchus OSL after he mistakenly typed 'ㅎㅎ' instead of gg and then typed an 'a' in their final game. GoRush was forced to forfeit both games and BackHo moved on to the next round..
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On December 10 2011 11:38 XsebT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 11:26 Rikke wrote:On December 10 2011 10:30 XsebT wrote:On December 10 2011 10:18 GreEny K wrote:
If a team from BW switched to SC2, they will be the best... Simple. They already have huge sponsors and enough money to actually pay all members a high salary. The question is whether the sponsors will stick around in that case. I don't think sc2 is able to produce nearly as good viewer ratings as bw can. Getting their brand out to the masses is obviously the main goal for any sponsor. Also, I highly doubt that's hydra. Korean sponsors are a joke compared to US/EU Sponsors. A Korean team can easily get International Sponsors. Look how few results coL and Liquid deliver - and they have great sponsors. I bet EG gets more than all korean teams combined from their sponsors. SC2 will continue to grow into the international scene. Korea is only so big in sc because the international players are spread across the whole world, that makes a better version of GSL impossible. The korean economy is just not big enough. If SC2 growth alot more, Korea will no longer be the center of SC2 - because the money is in the west. You post is extremely ignorant. First of all, without even knowing the numbers, I can with confidence say that the amount sponsored to a team like Liquid` is peanuts compared to a team like Samsung Khan or CJ Entus. About getting viewers to see your brand... Not only is the entire sc2 audience much smaller than that of bw (big sc2 finals get ~60k viewers), but these viewers are also spread all over the world, and it's thus hard to focus both advertising and sponsor money. Korea has an awesome number of bw viewers packed into a very small area - making both advertising and brand sponsoring very easy. Sc2 is doing very well even outside korea, but it just doesn't compare to the bw proscene in terms of viewers, sponsor money and how organized this is through kespa.
Both of you are just speaking from your biases.
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jesus, no.
skt, kt and samsung are basically megabucks. they own the teams. sponsoring an american team is peanuts. until intel or verizon create a sc2 team, there's just no argument whatsoever.
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I just want to drop that international teams/foreigner teams spend A LOT of their money on plane tickets, BW teams dont need to do that. On top of that Korean teams are just BW, not CS+LoL+Dota+Starcraft etc like EG, fnatic, Dignitas, SK etc.
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Hmm Flash says Flash made 250k last year, Milkis said Flash made 500k. Who to believe...
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On December 11 2011 04:16 Blennd wrote:
Hmm Flash says Flash made 250k last year, Milkis said Flash made 500k. Who to believe...
Flash was talking about salary only. Milkis included winnings too
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On December 10 2011 11:41 StatorFlux wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 11:31 DeepBlu2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2011 11:29 mtn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 11:25 DeepBlu2 wrote:So I may look like a complete fool because I don't know how to use Sc2gears. I feel like this dosen't deserve it's own topic but here we go. So first, I asked Forgg to which he replied, no, that is not hydra. Sage had a similar response. I am completely sure this is not Hydra. However, I asked for a replay to compare it to and was told to compare it to Losira by 라푼젤(Rapunzel) (Credit goes to him) This is what I found Hotkeys match but I am confused as to how sc2gears works. So please inform me if I am wrong. And if someone knows sc2gears, please inform me. They dont match. The first guy " Hydra" Isn't using 6 AT ALL. Where Losira is using from mid game ~~ That's because the games end at different times. Check the bottom for the timer. Hm, looks like CJEntusHydra assigns all his hotkeys, 1 through 0, at the start if I don't read the graphs wrong while Losira's in the range 1-5, I don't know if that is noteworthy; just thought I'd mention it.
Losira uses 3. "Hydra" doesn't...
Well even if he is an imposter, the last time it happened, we got MarineKing, so I'm not too worried
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EPT
where from this numbers coming lol
