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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#681
On January 03 2012 20:04 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 20:35 Squeegy wrote:
On December 12 2011 12:51 TeH_CaRnAg3 wrote:
playing bw helped... playing a ton of games helped... forgg is good because of both. Those who didn't play bw or weren't good at bw want to say it was mass gaming so they can think there ganna be as good by playing a lot. Sure... you will be good by playing a lot so keep playing. people who played or were good at bw want to say it's because of his bw backround he's this good. Yup, it surely did help he played a professional rts that's more similar to sc2 than any other game . Yah I think that would help.

stop it. He's good because he played a similar rts for many years and trained the same way he's training now. he's also good because he's putting a lot of work in. Both are contributing.


People also forget BW's role at finding talent. It's not just who practises the most and who is the most dedicated. It's also about talent. And if you were succesful in a game as competetive as BW mass gaming simply didn't cut it. You had to have something else to bring to the table. That something is talent. BW pros are highly talented and they work like crazy. That is why they are so good and that is why they will rock the scene.


Also, why do you rule out the possibility that a player like MVP put a lot more effort into sc2 than he did in bw? Is that so unrealistic?


Yup, it's extremely unrealistic. It's barely even humanly possible to put in more practice hours than Brood War progamers do on average, let alone to put A LOT more effort in. That would imply that he played BW half-assed, and he wouldn't have made it to an A team (even if it was Woongjin T) playing BW half-assed, in fact he wouldn't have made it to the team at all.

On January 03 2012 20:20 ReaperX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:04 Mandalor wrote:
On December 12 2011 20:35 Squeegy wrote:
On December 12 2011 12:51 TeH_CaRnAg3 wrote:
playing bw helped... playing a ton of games helped... forgg is good because of both. Those who didn't play bw or weren't good at bw want to say it was mass gaming so they can think there ganna be as good by playing a lot. Sure... you will be good by playing a lot so keep playing. people who played or were good at bw want to say it's because of his bw backround he's this good. Yup, it surely did help he played a professional rts that's more similar to sc2 than any other game . Yah I think that would help.

stop it. He's good because he played a similar rts for many years and trained the same way he's training now. he's also good because he's putting a lot of work in. Both are contributing.


People also forget BW's role at finding talent. It's not just who practises the most and who is the most dedicated. It's also about talent. And if you were succesful in a game as competetive as BW mass gaming simply didn't cut it. You had to have something else to bring to the table. That something is talent. BW pros are highly talented and they work like crazy. That is why they are so good and that is why they will rock the scene.


And why is it that BW elitists think sc2 does not find talented and dedicated players?
Also, why do you rule out the possibility that a player like MVP put a lot more effort into sc2 than he did in bw? Is that so unrealistic?
I'm sure if Flash/Jaedong/Bisu switched to sc2, they have the potential to be dominating players. But they'd have to put in the same amount of hours and sick practice they did when they became good in bw and I'm sure it's hard to motivate yourself when you've already been at the top of another game. I don't think all of them would be able to.


I agree wholeheartedly. Tyler was a dominating force in BW and without practice now in SC2 he hasn't been dominating as much.


Tyler didn't play Brood War full time either. Foreign Brood War didn't actually have a professional scene. Players like Tyler and Mondragon got good, then they practiced for a period of time (usually before major tournaments), then did school and other stuff for a long period of time, then came back just before another tournament and won because they were/are more talented than other foreigners.

Obviously that kind of training regime won't work so well now that there are big tournaments every month and when there are players who actually do play Starcraft 2 seriously full time as an actual job.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
January 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#682
would be pretty awesome if the big names moved over, sucks for BW, but awesome for sc2
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S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
January 03 2012 12:30 GMT
#683
once the bw scene switch to sc2. you will see tbls or flash in particular rape for sure.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
January 04 2012 07:49 GMT
#684
On January 03 2012 20:20 ReaperX wrote:
Tyler was a dominating force in BW


with all respect to tyler, i must laugh uncontrollably at this statement

and no, he's not referring to only the foreign scene. if he was, it provides no support for his argument, considering the "foreign scene" in bw when tyler was at his peak was nonexistent and the level of play was so far below where the real bw pro scene was at
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 14:46:57
January 04 2012 14:44 GMT
#685
lol @ this talk of talent...

Do you guys know why Flash is Godly? Some players having been playing the scene long before Flash became a distinguishable cheesy A-Teamer yet he can still out-wit them all in a BoX series?? It's because of his talent.

Hours and hours of practice can only do you little against an opponent who could have more or less the same amount of practice time you've had but is actually talented.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
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