EPTOn October 29 2011 00:44 Chill wrote:
This thread is a mess. I'm locking it for 30 minutes so everyone can read this:
SC2 Players: Consider that there are people who still love the BW community and feel like their game and community are preemptively being killed. Everybody who played BW and SC2 at a high level know that, in their current form, BW is a more difficult and more balanced game. It's an exciting time for SC2, but be respectful to the BW community.
BW Players: Consider that there's a large community of new players that are just excited. They aren't necessarily being disrespectful, they are just excited for the possibilities coming to the game they love. Don't assume they are knowledgable about your community and your love and are purposefully and spitefully attacking it.
Thanks. Be back in 30.
This thread is a mess. I'm locking it for 30 minutes so everyone can read this:
SC2 Players: Consider that there are people who still love the BW community and feel like their game and community are preemptively being killed. Everybody who played BW and SC2 at a high level know that, in their current form, BW is a more difficult and more balanced game. It's an exciting time for SC2, but be respectful to the BW community.
BW Players: Consider that there's a large community of new players that are just excited. They aren't necessarily being disrespectful, they are just excited for the possibilities coming to the game they love. Don't assume they are knowledgable about your community and your love and are purposefully and spitefully attacking it.
Thanks. Be back in 30.
Be nice! The BW vs SC2 thing has been done before.
Update: List of BW pros possibly playing SC2
There has been a screenshot of a friends list filled with the Real IDs of several CJ, STX and SK players making it's way around the Korean web.
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As Korean accounts require players to sign up with their social security numbers and matching names, it is not easy to fake it. One way someone could possibly fake it is by asking for people with the same names as current BW pros to give this person their email addresses so he could add them. This seems unlikely though.
DISCLAIMER: The sc2ranks links below some pros are not confirmed accounts of these progamers, but just possible candidates for their accounts given the dates the accounts were created.
List of players in screenshot:
Nbs
Hydra
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Leta- Rush
- Horang2
- BogusOn October 31 2011 23:07 thOr6136 wrote:
- Bogus - Snow
- BByong
- sKyHigh
- Movie (FXOchoya also has him on his friend list and he was talking to him on his stream)On October 31 2011 23:07 thOr6136 wrote:
- Movie - Food5
- Doctor.K
- iloveoov's wife (???????????????)
- Bisu
- BeSt
- yongun (SK T1 Coach)
- n.Die_soO
- s2
- LuCifer OR Flash
- ParalyzeOn October 31 2011 23:07 pdd wrote:
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3425177/ParalyzE (account created late September). - Fantasy's little brother
- yeOngJae
- Fantasy
- heroOn October 31 2011 22:44 GTR wrote:
i like how the person who created that image didnt white-outhero's id (which is herO).
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/1852846/herO - Size
- hyvaaOn October 31 2011 23:07 thOr6136 wrote:
- Hyvaa - Trap
- Shuttle
- Modesty
- STX Coach
- SoO
- mini
Other (possible) BW pros
DISCLAIMER: The sc2ranks links below some pros are not confirmed accounts of these progamers, but just possible candidates for their accounts given the dates the accounts were created.
- Midas
- LastOn October 31 2011 23:07 thOr6136 wrote:
- last - Tyson (MKP was asking for his ID on Twitter after Tyson asked for a game)
- BaBy (From Nada's friend list while he was streaming)
- JangBi (Messaged Liquid`HerO while he was streaming)
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JangBi (Heo Young Moo): Hey, let me fucking observe - XellOs
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- HiyA
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HiyA: SC2 was a hard game afterall... TT
He also said himself on his Afreeca stream that he will probably switch to Starcraft 2 soon. Since he feels that all the current BW teams will move to Starcraft 2 eventually, he wants to prepare early.
BW Teams playing Starcraft 2
Source: Fomos
It is known that all current BW teams excluding one have begun practicing SC2 in preparation for the next season of the Proleague. The reason they haven't made it public is because KeSPA hasn't made any official statements about the next season yet. The BW teams are not opposed to SC2.
Most BW scene officials now say that "If existing progamers made the switch to SC2, they will be able to show skill worthy of their name value".
Team A said they begun practicing SC2 3 weeks ago:
"It's a situation where we can't not prepare for SC2 so we are continuously practicing. As there is a good system in place where everyone watches each others matches and shares information their skill is increasing rapidly. They are still far beneath the players who had started playing since SC2's release, but an official from a SC2 team we had practiced with recently told us that 'It's unbelievable how these players could get to this skill level in just 2 weeks'".
Team B is also considering SC2:
"If it was a game with a completely different genre it wouldn't be the case, but our team's progamers are conditioned for RTS games. Things like creating builds, coming up with solutions for certain situations and other knowledge doesn't just disappear, so players who were good at BW will also be good at SC2."
Team C also said:
"After making them practice, the named players have been able to show similar skill in SC2. Compared to BW, SC2 also has a shorter play time so players have actually been able to practice even more than they did previously".
Most player opinions were that:
"The more I play the faster I adapt. At the very least it doesn't feel any harder than BW".
BW Champions, players A and B are also the top players at SC2 within their teams:
"We are practicing while watching GSL matches. If we start for real I think we'll be able to become top players soon".
An official said:
"Most players seemed to naturally get to the master league. The real problem will probably be after that but as they gain experience they will progress exponentially".
However a well known progamer had some concerns about fairness:
"In our team's case we haven't started practicing SC2 yet. If the proleague opens and we need to play SC2, the gap between the teams who had already begun practicing will inevitably become larger".
All that is left is for KeSPA to hurry and make an official statement on SC2 in the proleague. A lot of progamers are showing confidence after practicing SC2, but KeSPA will also need to take these fairness concerns into account.
A coach from an existing SC2 team said:
"Even on our side, the fact that we don't know whether SC2 will be included in the proleague either is one of the biggest issues. The well known players in pro teams have a good mindset and a lot of know-how so I'm sure if they put in the effort they will do well".
Players in the GSL are also interested in how TaekBangLeeSsang will do in SC2 and they hope that negotiations go well:
"We're happy about there being more SC2 players, but we hope that talks between KeSPA and Gretech turn out well and that it results in a league where we can compete together. With the possibility of growing eSports being extremely high, we need to go in a direction where everyone can benefit. We will observe the situation that follows earnestly".
STX, CJ and SK all change their equipment
Picture: Fomos
STX changed their equipment before even KT. SK Telecom changed their equipment early this year. CJ also changed their equipment recently.
STX Specs:
Monitor: 24 Inch LED Monitor
CPU: Intel Core i7
RAM: 8GB
GPU: GTX560
RUMOR TERRITORY (UNCONFIRMED SOURCE)
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Video of Flash in rehabilitation center: http://vimeo.com/31241872
He says that KT installed a PC in the rehabilitation center for him to practice on and that he feels that his skill hasn't deteriorated after playing a few games. So he is able to play games while recovering. He's not worried about his arm and he feels he'll return faster than expected.
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Video of Flash in rehabilitation center: http://vimeo.com/31241872
He says that KT installed a PC in the rehabilitation center for him to practice on and that he feels that his skill hasn't deteriorated after playing a few games. So he is able to play games while recovering. He's not worried about his arm and he feels he'll return faster than expected.
so they need to keep up with the current trend
