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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 06 2011 07:14 GMT
#3421
Most people can only utilize 10% or so of their brain at any point in time...
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
November 06 2011 07:15 GMT
#3422
On November 06 2011 16:11 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:09 TrainSamurai wrote:
On November 06 2011 15:23 Corrosive wrote:


Flash doesn't have some magic genes that make him better than everyone else. Yes, he's good, i know, trust me, but ANYONE can be as good as him as long as they practice just as hard as him and are as dedicated as him.

edit: talking about starcraft 2 obviously not bw

Actually I'm not so sure. Compared to some BW player Flash actually uses different regions of his brain while playing. Could be a result of some BW enlightenment or magic genes.


Source?


I'm leaning towards him making a joke but I'm not entirely certain. I though we proved at some point that Flash was actually a T90X sent from the future to defeat humanities only hope in the form of BW domination.
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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:17:55
November 06 2011 07:15 GMT
#3423
On November 06 2011 16:11 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:09 TrainSamurai wrote:
On November 06 2011 15:23 Corrosive wrote:


Flash doesn't have some magic genes that make him better than everyone else. Yes, he's good, i know, trust me, but ANYONE can be as good as him as long as they practice just as hard as him and are as dedicated as him.

edit: talking about starcraft 2 obviously not bw

Actually I'm not so sure. Compared to some BW player Flash actually uses different regions of his brain while playing. Could be a result of some BW enlightenment or magic genes.


Source?


they did some brainwave analysis back in 2009? I think? Compared him to some random BW player I don't THINK it was anyone special, not even practice partner level just the average guy, but yeah the results showed Flash with higher brain activity//different parts of his brain active in addition to the ones the average guy had going.

OR I'm getting this confused with Xellos and I'm very dissapointed in myself.

It was Xellos silly me.
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
November 06 2011 07:16 GMT
#3424
On November 06 2011 16:15 Monokeros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:11 SnowFantasy wrote:
On November 06 2011 16:09 TrainSamurai wrote:
On November 06 2011 15:23 Corrosive wrote:


Flash doesn't have some magic genes that make him better than everyone else. Yes, he's good, i know, trust me, but ANYONE can be as good as him as long as they practice just as hard as him and are as dedicated as him.

edit: talking about starcraft 2 obviously not bw

Actually I'm not so sure. Compared to some BW player Flash actually uses different regions of his brain while playing. Could be a result of some BW enlightenment or magic genes.


Source?


they did some brainwave analysis back in 2009? I think? Compared him to some random BW player I don't THINK it was anyone special, not even practice partner level just the average guy, but yeah the results showed Flash with higher brain activity//different parts of his brain active in addition to the ones the average guy had going.

OR I'm getting this confused with Xellos and I'm very dissapointed in myself.


that was xellos for natgeo in some wcg doc.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
November 06 2011 07:17 GMT
#3425
On November 06 2011 16:11 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:09 TrainSamurai wrote:
On November 06 2011 15:23 Corrosive wrote:


Flash doesn't have some magic genes that make him better than everyone else. Yes, he's good, i know, trust me, but ANYONE can be as good as him as long as they practice just as hard as him and are as dedicated as him.

edit: talking about starcraft 2 obviously not bw

Actually I'm not so sure. Compared to some BW player Flash actually uses different regions of his brain while playing. Could be a result of some BW enlightenment or magic genes.


Source?

It is somewhere on teamliquid. iirc they did a MRI scan of his brain while playing SC and compared it to Xellos and some other pros. It seems that a lot of people use the section of the brain that is responsible for memory management ( not sure about details), Flash uses this section+ a lot of other sections.
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:18:13
November 06 2011 07:17 GMT
#3426
You're getting a little confused. It was comparing Xellos to a random scrub. :O
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
November 06 2011 07:18 GMT
#3427
lol the story suddenly twists into Xellos being compared to Flash this is hilariously incorrect.
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
November 06 2011 07:20 GMT
#3428
On November 06 2011 16:18 Monokeros wrote:
lol the story suddenly twists into Xellos being compared to Flash this is hilariously incorrect.


Dunno man, Xellos is the real Perfect Terran.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:43:40
November 06 2011 07:21 GMT
#3429
Edit: link in next post
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
November 06 2011 07:23 GMT
#3430
Flash has brains in his hands.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 06 2011 07:28 GMT
#3431
On November 06 2011 16:14 nalgene wrote:
Most people can only utilize 10% or so of their brain at any point in time...

This is such a god damned stupid stat that just won't die. Its not a matter of "using" your full brain, its that most of your brains pathways are associated with different activities. So when you play sc, most of your "doing the dishes" or "playing guitar" pathways aren't in use - that's what is meant by only using 10% of your brain.

So what that means for Flash is that he's able to make wider connections while playing sc, and better access skills that he's accumulated while doing other activities. Basically it means that he's really really smart and can contextualize very well. For a simple example, you sit in econ class and they talk about the idea of inflation. Then you go home and play sc2 and build bunkers (pre-nerf to make things easier). Some people, understanding inflation, won't make the connection and say that "well, if I get my 100 minerals back they're free then". Someone better at making connections would say that "having learned about inflation I can say that 100 mins at 5 minutes is worth more than 100 mins at 6 minutes". Thats a super-simple example that a lot of people can intuit.

If Flash is supposedly using parts of his brain that others aren't that would suggest that he can do this on a much larger scale, and intuitively understand starcraft based on understanding extremely different things. ie he's really really smart and therefore naturally amazing at rts games. This is kinda basic but the "use 10% of your brain" thing just keeps cropping up and its rather annoying.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
November 06 2011 07:33 GMT
#3432
On November 06 2011 16:28 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:14 nalgene wrote:
Most people can only utilize 10% or so of their brain at any point in time...

This is such a god damned stupid stat that just won't die. Its not a matter of "using" your full brain, its that most of your brains pathways are associated with different activities. So when you play sc, most of your "doing the dishes" or "playing guitar" pathways aren't in use - that's what is meant by only using 10% of your brain.

So what that means for Flash is that he's able to make wider connections while playing sc, and better access skills that he's accumulated while doing other activities. Basically it means that he's really really smart and can contextualize very well. For a simple example, you sit in econ class and they talk about the idea of inflation. Then you go home and play sc2 and build bunkers (pre-nerf to make things easier). Some people, understanding inflation, won't make the connection and say that "well, if I get my 100 minerals back they're free then". Someone better at making connections would say that "having learned about inflation I can say that 100 mins at 5 minutes is worth more than 100 mins at 6 minutes". Thats a super-simple example that a lot of people can intuit.

If Flash is supposedly using parts of his brain that others aren't that would suggest that he can do this on a much larger scale, and intuitively understand starcraft based on understanding extremely different things. ie he's really really smart and therefore naturally amazing at rts games. This is kinda basic but the "use 10% of your brain" thing just keeps cropping up and its rather annoying.


that's not how it works. you are always using most of your brain. the 10% of your brain thing is just false.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:40:46
November 06 2011 07:40 GMT
#3433
Actually I did a quick check:
Documentary on flash
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113537&currentpage=2

On March 11 2010 21:41 MrHoon wrote:
they already checked his brain

apparently flash's brain is more 'special' than the average human.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=104291&db=issue

Here is the result of the brain scan

it's too complicated~~


Flash's brain is indeed special but who knows enlightenment vs genes
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 06 2011 07:53 GMT
#3434
On November 06 2011 16:28 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:14 nalgene wrote:
Most people can only utilize 10% or so of their brain at any point in time...

This is such a god damned stupid stat that just won't die. Its not a matter of "using" your full brain, its that most of your brains pathways are associated with different activities. So when you play sc, most of your "doing the dishes" or "playing guitar" pathways aren't in use - that's what is meant by only using 10% of your brain.

So what that means for Flash is that he's able to make wider connections while playing sc, and better access skills that he's accumulated while doing other activities. Basically it means that he's really really smart and can contextualize very well. For a simple example, you sit in econ class and they talk about the idea of inflation. Then you go home and play sc2 and build bunkers (pre-nerf to make things easier). Some people, understanding inflation, won't make the connection and say that "well, if I get my 100 minerals back they're free then". Someone better at making connections would say that "having learned about inflation I can say that 100 mins at 5 minutes is worth more than 100 mins at 6 minutes". Thats a super-simple example that a lot of people can intuit.

If Flash is supposedly using parts of his brain that others aren't that would suggest that he can do this on a much larger scale, and intuitively understand starcraft based on understanding extremely different things. ie he's really really smart and therefore naturally amazing at rts games. This is kinda basic but the "use 10% of your brain" thing just keeps cropping up and its rather annoying.



You are purporting to know way more than you actually do there. I'll leave it to a scientist to conduct an extensive study to even scratch the surface of whether "wider connections" lead to increased starcraft skill. There's no reason to think that intelligence is necessarily the primary source of BW skill. Hand-eye coordination would seem to me to be more crucial, especially for BW. Theres no reason to assume that the connections between different areas of Flash's brain is what allows him to point and click extremely quickly and precisely.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
November 06 2011 08:02 GMT
#3435
On November 06 2011 16:53 Doodsmack wrote:

You are purporting to know way more than you actually do there. I'll leave it to a scientist to conduct an extensive study to even scratch the surface of whether "wider connections" lead to increased starcraft skill. There's no reason to think that intelligence is necessarily the primary source of BW skill. Hand-eye coordination would seem to me to be more crucial, especially for BW. Theres no reason to assume that the connections between different areas of Flash's brain is what allows him to point and click extremely quickly and precisely.


Come again? This is not an issure of Flash using different parts of his brain he is actually using the usual parts and more. Whether this translate to anything significant I guess we will have to leave it to the experts.
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORS. LoL is the KING of ESPORTS
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 06 2011 08:03 GMT
#3436
On November 06 2011 16:23 Clefairy wrote:
Flash has brains in his hands.
That hand surgery must have hurt his brains like crazy.
About the study, unfortunately it's vastly misinterpreted as most brain studies are. Of course in any activity that requires using memory to be good, the professionals when doing it are going to use their memory regions very actively. And the amateurs aren't trained in this area, so no memory development for it, so they will use mostly just sensory centers. It doesn't even mean the pro's have special brains. Only their training is special.
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
November 06 2011 09:50 GMT
#3437
The news about hydra that he is indeed playing SCII are big. Anyways anyone can translate the talk between puma , jyp and hydra https://twitter.com/#!/dongwon8247 ?
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 06 2011 09:54 GMT
#3438
On November 06 2011 18:50 DreamOen wrote:
The news about hydra that he is indeed playing SCII are big. Anyways anyone can translate the talk between puma , jyp and hydra https://twitter.com/#!/dongwon8247 ?

I won't take the chat between them as nothing more than just regular banter. SC1 and SC2 pros exchange tweets very frequently, even before this talk of SC2 in PL talk started. The fact that he added the "2" in his Twitter profile tells a lot though.
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
November 06 2011 10:19 GMT
#3439
On November 06 2011 16:14 nalgene wrote:
Most people can only utilize 10% or so of their brain at any point in time...

Oh boy...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=people-only-use-10-percent-of-brain
Now I feel better.

What's interesting to me is that so many people can claim something as a fact, yet they have no idea whether it's really true.
They just hear it somewhere and don't think about it. So sad.
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
November 06 2011 10:35 GMT
#3440
On November 06 2011 19:19 Spidinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 16:14 nalgene wrote:
Most people can only utilize 10% or so of their brain at any point in time...

Oh boy...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=people-only-use-10-percent-of-brain
Now I feel better.

What's interesting to me is that so many people can claim something as a fact, yet they have no idea whether it's really true.
They just hear it somewhere and don't think about it. So sad.


Believing in 10 % make them feel better, you know. Unlimited brain power lol.
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