Prize money in Starcraft 2 - Page 24

On November 01 2011 00:48 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:


Problem is that 90% of tournaments do it

On November 01 2011 03:25 driftme wrote:


Yea, 30-60 is normal AP timeframe. BUT - for every event I've ever worked on (again, non-esports, but fundraisers and tournaments alike), the whole thing is planned way in advance, and when a company buys a sponsorship, the clock starts from when we start doing the printing etc for their ads/posters/whatever. NOT the day of the event. There's PLENTY of time for that money to be received and put into escrow.

On November 01 2011 03:17 polarfluKe wrote:


I did PM you regarding this, but I feel you have not played your part in the discussion and I have the right to say what I must say now.

How exactly do you expect us to pay you? Did you bother to send me your payment details before I had to PM you earlier for them? Did you even read the tournament rules that are in place?

Here is an excerpt from our Rules, updated on 13/10/2011:

Payments (Added 13-10-2011)

South African players must submit their banking details from their registered e-mail address
Non South African players must submit their PayPal details from their registered e-mail address
All prizes are paid in ZAR and thus the estimated USD value may be different to that stated on the tournament page due to currency fluctuations
Players must submit their payment details within 2(two) weeks of the end of a tournament to receive their payment else the prize will be forfeit
Once the 2(two) week period is over, all payments will be processed

I did tell you after reading your OP that I would still make your payment even though you had failed to adhere to the rules of the tournament.

This is absolutely ridiculous that you are including tournaments from 2 weeks ago; while I do support talking up about tournaments and hosts that have an extremely long wait time, you are causing damage to guys like me who do actually pay up. I work my ass off to host monthly tournaments with good prize pools. I spend hours upon hours in meetings, trying to get more money into my tournaments and with one or two posts you are able to wrongfully ruin a reputation my organization has earned.

PolarfluKe has been running since May 2010 and we have run 18 tournaments for Starcraft II. Every tournament is paid up in full except for the tournament we hosted 2 weeks ago(15-16 October). If you had bothered to read the rules regarding payments (which I was forced to add because it takes players too long to send their payment details), I explicitly state how the payment structure works now.

Do not lay blame on myself or my organization for payment not received when you can not adhere to simple rules.

Did you bother to send your payment details to anyone in that list?

On November 01 2011 01:34 Special Endrey wrote:
I heard from quite a lot of players, that there where a lot of problems with paying out prize money too. I even helped some getting in contact with admins/sponsors esp when there are language barriers involved and tournament admins are not beeing able to proper communicate.


Still, this is not always the tournament organizers beeing super greedy. Sometimes you as an organizer make a contract with a sponsor and they simply don't pay up in time. So this leaves the organizers in a hole of shit. Becasue they are blamed by the players and the general audience (/r/pitchfork anyone? hehe) for sponsors not holding on to signed contracts. I am not saying this is always the case, I don't even know if this is the majority or the minority. But I am saying that it is not always that simple. So beeing to fast on judging people/tournaments, might not always be the best idea


Still, this thread absolutly deserves attention, it is good that it is not that one sided.

On November 01 2011 03:30 Celadan wrote:
Lesson learned: go to MLG peoples :=)

On November 01 2011 03:33 michielbrands wrote:
I am curious, blizzard does get a share from all prizepools above 5000 euro if I am not mistaken. Does it take all those organisations also more then 90 days to pay them. And how does Blizzard react on this?

On November 01 2011 03:26 Diamond wrote:


Why on earth should professional players be worrying about things like collecting money? There job is to play, it's the managers job to manage. Crazy shit I know...

On November 01 2011 03:26 Diamond wrote:


Why on earth should professional players be worrying about things like collecting money? There job is to play, it's the managers job to manage. Crazy shit I know...

On November 01 2011 03:33 hmunkey wrote:

If organizers have a legal contract with their sponsors, and those sponsors fail to pay, the organizers should immediately take the matter to court. Stop making excuses if you have legal recourse.

If someone sets up a tournament, completes the proper documentation, and still fails to pay, of course they deserve to be judged and held accountable. Business is business and no one can consider themselves professional unless they do what all other professional organizations in every field do.

On November 01 2011 03:37 VPGeneralHans wrote:



You want me sending in private forms with your tax records and bank details o.o
Imagine if you were a USA player, I'd need to know your social security number to do anything that deals with companies.

If a player asks me to help them, I will help them of course. It's just not at a stage with real sports were they have lawyers and accountants bound by law to be private with a clients details.