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rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
October 28 2011 12:41 GMT
#301
On October 28 2011 21:39 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


Really bro...? You either play one or the other if you're gonna take it seriously. Pretty certain.

and it cant be that the "Low tier" players in their teams play SC2? or some guys that want and the others still play BW only? no cant? ok.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 12:43:24
October 28 2011 12:42 GMT
#302
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


in denial or what?

Its been posted that the next PL will be stararcft 2 after this current season and they want Kespa to hurry up and announce it so they can start preparing properly, if thats not pointing towards the change happeneing soon then nothing is. BW teams are expecting an annoucement soon to clarify. Flash according to slashers twitter is already practicing.
Live and Let Die!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
October 28 2011 12:43 GMT
#303
KT hardware thread was bogus,this thread is legit!

I'm guessing the one team that is not is ACE?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
October 28 2011 12:44 GMT
#304
On October 28 2011 21:38 Fionn wrote:
I wonder how much money GOM/OGN could print if they did a 'SC2 pros vs. BW pros' showmatch between the old guard (the current top players) against the new guard (the invading Brood War players switching over). Put MarineKing against Bisu, Flash vs. MVP, etc. and find a gigantic stadium.

Watch the money roll in.

Gosh that would be so awesome, I don't have a job and I'd pay for that.

I didn't think this would come so soon, I knew it was inevitable but the fact that's happening right now is pretty insane. It's so bittersweet
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
October 28 2011 12:44 GMT
#305
On October 28 2011 21:42 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


win denial or what?

It sbeen posted that the next PL will be stararcft 2 after this current season and they want Kespa to hurry up and announce it so they can start preparing properly, if thats not pointint towards the change happeneing soon then nothing is. BW teams are expecting an annoucement soon to clarify.


they are not dropping BW(this season,which is what we are discussing here),its not denial its the truth.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
October 28 2011 12:44 GMT
#306
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


People realize this, but you also have to be blind to not realize that this is the start of a (slow?) transition into full time SC2 for BW pros and Kespa.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
AusBox
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia214 Posts
October 28 2011 12:45 GMT
#307
Oh man, I pretty much read that with the biggest smile. I'm so pumped that the legends of BW are switching over. I can't wait for Proleague SC2 to see what happens.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 28 2011 12:45 GMT
#308
The only hope I have for this is that it reinvigorates the BW scene by giving it more press. Otherwise I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 12:46:58
October 28 2011 12:46 GMT
#309
On October 28 2011 21:45 ZeaL. wrote:
The only hope I have for this is that it reinvigorates the BW scene by giving it more press. Otherwise I don't want to live on this planet anymore.


nor I.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#310
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


Dude, i've been a huge BW-fan for yeeeaars, and as much as i hated having to let go of it, it's just inevitable. People that followed the BW scene know that the top players did pretty much nothing but play BW and then chill for an hour or two before bed.

There is NO way they are going to be practicing BW and SC2 at the same time, they either try to get ahead in SC2 or decide to stick with BW while it's (sadly) going down.
We make signature, then defense it.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
October 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#311
On October 28 2011 21:44 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


People realize this, but you also have to be blind to not realize that this is the start of a (slow?) transition into full time SC2 for BW pros and Kespa.


do not assume anything more than what you have,especially on TL, do you really want to start a shitstorm.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
dsll
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom143 Posts
October 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#312
Oh my god, This could .. and WILL seriously change the landscape of pro StarCraft... Think about it ..... Flash @ MLG ..... my god.
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
October 28 2011 12:48 GMT
#313
On October 28 2011 21:07 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 21:05 two.watup wrote:
On October 28 2011 20:44 Kreb wrote:
Can someone explain to me why teams would want to chage?

Dont get me wrong, I'm here 99% for SC2 and I'd be lying if I said I wasnt excited by this. But from most of what I hear, all viewer numbers are still in SCBW, all sponsors are there, vast majority of fans still follow SCBW over SC2. Mostly everything seems to point towards SCBW just being a lot more popular. The one thing SC2 has going for it is the international scene which really only is available for the absolute top and profitable for very few players, as well as obviously the potential of growth (better jump on the train now before it goes too far too catch).

But still, so if I was the head coach of a team or some other powerful individual in the Korean SCBW world, why would I want to switch? Or is this whole talk about SCBW being more popular bullshit and SC2 is doing well compared to BW?

I think the international effect is really understated.

Korea isn't that big, and BW doesn't exist anywhere else really. Maybe not as big of a point, but a lot of players like traveling. SC2 gives young korean progamers the chance to travel around the world to a bunch of Amazing places. BW really doesn't. Teams are dropping out of BW because of sponsorship. Maybe the sponsors are looking for something new. Something they can use to advertise around the world.

Companies like LG, Samsung, Hyundai, and Kia have way more to gain sponsoring SC2, these are brand names people recognize everywhere. I think it might be difficult for some fans to transition, but it looks like the players are doing fine, the teams are up for it, and the sponsorships will be rolling in.

BW is like a TV show that's run for a really long time. It might have a lot of die hard fans, but it's popularity is slowly being usurped by a newer TV show that isn't recorded on a wet, cracked, iPhone first gen lense.

Teams dont Drop out of Esports not BW. so it isnt positive for SC2 either.

and if Samsung would think like u im pretty sure they would already have their SC2 team and wouldnt support BW anymore.

u have this LG Hyundai or whatever. they throw 50k in and that sit. nice sponsors.

People need 2 realize that not BW is dying but Esports in korea.

Esports can only die if sponsors can't make money off of it.

Sponsors are making money off of SC2. The international companies I mentioned, again, have the most to gain.

It's not about BW vs SC2. It's about money vs more money.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
October 28 2011 12:48 GMT
#314
If this is true it shows how viable "esports" actually is when everyone just switches to the new toy because it has the higher res graphics
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4141 Posts
October 28 2011 12:50 GMT
#315
On October 28 2011 18:46 Zambozo wrote:
guys let BW die, it is the way of the world something must go away to make room for something new. SC2 has the potential to become even larger than BW is Korea. I know it is great but we must let it go. The impact of so many new teams to SC2 pro sense will create so only good things. More tournaments, more sponsors and more nail biting moments we fans can enjoy and smile days after.


God, if you don't know anything about BW please don't post shit like this. Thank you sc2 fans.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
October 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#316
On October 28 2011 21:48 Ikonn wrote:
If this is true it shows how viable "esports" actually is when everyone just switches to the new toy because it has the higher res graphics


You realize e-sports covers all video games yea? As long as money is staying in e-sports, it doesn't really matter what game it is, e-sports will continue to grow.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#317
On October 28 2011 21:19 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 21:12 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
The day I see Flash vs MVP..oh my.




Happen already in BW. I want to see how Flash do in sc2 against MVp too. Will he transition well?

You should post the three following games in the same Bo5 instead.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#318
On October 28 2011 18:38 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 18:32 Azurues wrote:
just switch over man. sc1 is pretty damn old already, nobody wants old stuff (except antique collector).

I am waiting for this moment where big sc1 team switch over to see if they can dominate sc2 too

I hope they do well but don't dominate.... I'd be a sad panda if the top sc2 players currently got surpassed bigtime


Why? I assume everyone would fall in love with the true best players.
The spice must flow
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#319
On October 28 2011 21:48 Ikonn wrote:
If this is true it shows how viable "esports" actually is when everyone just switches to the new toy because it has the higher res graphics

Actually they are following the money and a more world wide loved game.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#320
On October 28 2011 21:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 21:42 Tommylew wrote:
On October 28 2011 21:37 Seraphic wrote:
You guys should realize, they are NOT dropping BW for SC2. They are just going to be playing SC2 also. So don't say BW is dead, because it isn't.

They're just practicing for SC2 as well as BW.


win denial or what?

It sbeen posted that the next PL will be stararcft 2 after this current season and they want Kespa to hurry up and announce it so they can start preparing properly, if thats not pointint towards the change happeneing soon then nothing is. BW teams are expecting an annoucement soon to clarify.


they are not dropping BW(this season,which is what we are discussing here),its not denial its the truth.


dont quite udnerstand your post I didnt say this season I said next season they are switching to sc2(according to the post which I what I meant) and this is confirmed by many points and that kespa havent released anyhting yet(so u never know...)

He said BW isnt dying but it is slowly, the PL change is a blow which is contributing to it.. I for one hope it doesnt, but if the major leageus like PL change then what tourneys are going to be left for BW?

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