Edit: Thanks for the comments guys, both the praise and criticism. I think NesTea/MVP interviews went relatively well considering the circumstances, and yeah even tried using Quantic/IM's personal manager/translator for MVP. Yeah MMA was probably too long and not diverse enough questions, sorry about that. Sophie's been reading the comments and she enjoys them too! You can thank her/say hello to her on twitter if you'd like: http://www.twitter.com/sprigeri
With the BW news/Fomos article that just hit, one of my favorite quotes is MVP near the end of the interview. "Will you be able to stay at the top if the BW players switch over?" - MVP: "I am the king. Come find me." Lets see if he can hold to that!
Hey guys, MLG has finally uploaded two interviews I did with NesTea and MVP directly after the BlizzCon finals were over.
Wanted to put some perspective with the interviews. They were both extremely tired, especially NesTea, and they both had to do StarNation interviews before I got to them as the very last media they had to do before they went to eat. I was also the only 'english' interview they did after the finals. Considering the funky last game and the series overall, mixed with Destiny's own comments to me upstairs before I did the interview, I wanted to try and push the issue with both players without accusation, which is why I pushed NesTea a bit. The answers both players gave are a bit interesting, along with NesTea's answer later in the interview regarding wanting to make it a good show for the crowd. Take the answers as you wish surrounding the final.
As for the translator, Sophie is my Korean girlfriend who I brought to BlizzCon to show off the great experience of the event, and to show the GSL Finals in person (which I've showed her multiple times). She played Starcraft when she was younger so she knows T/P/Z but not she's really a gamer nor know much of this eSports world that I've introduced her to, so I tried teaching her as much as I could about SC/Brackets/Point Systems/Unit names but it's rather difficult in just a few days. So if anyone has any problems with asking of specific questions or answers, blame me! Be nice to Sophie she did a great job :D.
Additionally for those who missed it, interviews with MMA, DRG, Carmac, Chris Sigaty, David Kim and others throughout the event. For the MMA that wasn't in the video interview, he told me he delayed the start of GSL because of his all-in Game 1, and did not want MVP to hear the crowd. Enjoy!
Slasher: "WHY THE HELL DID YOU THROW THAT GAME VS MVP? WHAT HAPPENED MAN" Nestea: "i dunno he just better player i try put on good show.." Slasher: "NO BUT SERIOUSLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT GAME?" Nestea: "i was tired and mvp best starcraft player in world"
He threw away a game/series he could have easily taken. (Because he was against a team-mate) I used to have all the respect in the world for Nestea but after seeing that i'm really iffy. If you really care about your fans you play a game that's good and don't just roll over... They basically said fuck blizzcon this is a joke.
On October 28 2011 06:11 WNT wrote: He threw away a game/series he could have easily taken. (Because he was against a team-mate) I used to have all the respect in the world for Nestea but after seeing that i'm really iffy. If you really care about your fans you play a game that's good and don't just roll over...
Sorry, but thats not confirmed at all. Stop making Nestea about to be a god. He could have been on tilt or tired, or whatever.
Just because someone plays a bad game doesn't mean they through it, wtf guys.
On October 28 2011 06:14 WNT wrote: When he rolls the dude and has nothing but a few hour break b4 the next games then plays 10x worse?? Somehow i don't buy that.
2 short all in rushes vs a 5 game finals, including several macro games.
On October 28 2011 06:14 WNT wrote: When he rolls the dude and has nothing but a few hour break b4 the next games then plays 10x worse?? Somehow i don't buy that.
Noted, your loss. Now stop accusing respected players without any proof.
And massing broodlords with no support is throwing a game sorry. What he think he could kill all of mvp's bases b4 his unprotected broods got face raped?
On October 28 2011 06:14 WNT wrote: When he rolls the dude and has nothing but a few hour break b4 the next games then plays 10x worse?? Somehow i don't buy that.
You don't buy it? Are you some kind of expert on Starcraft 2 players fatigue?
Nestea is not a god, he's a person. MVP is considered by many people (including Nestea) to be the best in the world.
If anyone through games, it was MVP in the first bo3 because he wanted Nestea to have a shot at the finals. (since he was already in the gsl finals that night.) See, flawless logic
He also had 100+ blings and did absolutely nothing with them. Why because if he did it was GG for MVP so instead he runs a circle around a PF and loses half of them.
Disappointing interview from Nestea his GSL interviews are usually really entertaining too. Weird. I guess the GSL interviews only happen after wins though.
As much as I love Nestea, something was going on in that final game... Cmon, 30 broodlords with no protection vs MvP's viking/ghost combo?
Either he threw that last game (unlikely) or he was just really really tired (more likely).
Can't take too much away from MVP as hes the best terran but still... I think after the winners bracket win Nestea had momentum and it was his tournament to lose and he did.
So sad, hope to see him get revenge at providence.
On October 28 2011 06:22 WNT wrote: Nestea isn't gonna say "Hey i let him win because i felt sorry for the raping he took the night b4" But that is simply exactly what happened.
Okay, we get it. You think he threw the game. But judging from his reaction and the interviews he did I doubt it. He seemed really flustered in every interview and obviously wasn't happy about the loss. Besides, there is no logical reason for him to throw the game. Just because MVP lost to MMA (a series where MVP looked really tilted/tired) doesn't mean Nestea would hand him first place. We've seen DRG and Nestea throw away won games before, it's just the nature of making mistakes in TvZ.
On October 28 2011 06:22 ElMeanYo wrote: As much as I love Nestea, something was going on in that final game... Cmon, 30 broodlords with no protection vs MvP's viking/ghost combo?
Either he threw that last game (unlikely) or he was just really really tired (more likely).
Can't take too much away from MVP as hes the best terran but still... I think after the winners bracket win Nestea had momentum and it was his tournament to lose and he did.
So sad, hope to see him get revenge at providence.
oh come on, the game was already lost at that point. MVP had a critical amount of ghosts and vikings with tank support.
sorry that i'm the one bashing but this translator is not that good. she had to re-ask questions a bunch of times and her english is quite poor. so this stopped the flow of the interview and made it quite slower than it already has to be.
anyone else agree?
edit: i re-read the original post and i noticed shes slasher's girlfriend. sorry slasher if you want this to look more professional you'll need a better translator.
On October 28 2011 06:22 ElMeanYo wrote: As much as I love Nestea, something was going on in that final game... Cmon, 30 broodlords with no protection vs MvP's viking/ghost combo?
Either he threw that last game (unlikely) or he was just really really tired (more likely).
Can't take too much away from MVP as hes the best terran but still... I think after the winners bracket win Nestea had momentum and it was his tournament to lose and he did.
So sad, hope to see him get revenge at providence.
oh come on, the game was already lost at that point. MVP had a critical amount of ghosts and vikings with tank support.
Nestea could have done something else other than spend it on 30 broodlords and thrown them away.
I don't know what though. It seems to me like his thought process was 'oh well, I'm tired, had enough and feel I can't win so lets make 30 broodlords for the fans'.
On October 28 2011 06:05 Juvant wrote: Really irks me that MVP was more than willing to blame his conditions for his loss to MMA. :/
I suppose there could be some truth to it, but it's very unsportsmanlike for him to detract from MMA's brilliant play.
The question was asking what MMA did differently that caused the 4-1 loss. Mvp just honestly said that he was really tired from playing the Blizzcon matches prior to the GSL finals and he may have cost himself the championship.
He has gone on record multiple times (even earlier this morning durinf the code s group selections) to say MMA played well and was the better terran during the series.
On October 28 2011 06:22 WNT wrote: Nestea isn't gonna say "Hey i let him win because i felt sorry for the raping he took the night b4" But that is simply exactly what happened.
Okay, we get it. You think he threw the game. But judging from his reaction and the interviews he did I doubt it. He seemed really flustered in every interview and obviously wasn't happy about the loss. Besides, there is no logical reason for him to throw the game. Just because MVP lost to MMA (a series where MVP looked really tilted/tired) doesn't mean Nestea would hand him first place. We've seen DRG and Nestea throw away won games before, it's just the nature of making mistakes in TvZ.
It's hilarious people think NesTea would hand a win over to MVP out of pity. NesTea's got a lot of pride, and he's nice but he's not that nice to his teammates.
(If he were that nice, he would've dropped at least one game to LosirA instead of trashing him 4-0 in the GSL.)
Zerg is also made to throw units away at that point why did he not do that? You will rarely win 200/200 Z v ? so why is it nestea sat there and threw absolutely nothing at MVP til he gathered 19 ghosts?
I feel like a lot of the wild speculation about NesTea throwing the last match stems from otherwise-reasonable people failing to recognize that they are in no position to judge the thought processes or mental states of NesTea and MVP at that point in the tournament. It's not a position that you or I have ever been in, and neither you nor I have put in the countless hours of training that NesTea or MVP have into becoming good at SC2, so it's a little silly to think that we can sit back as audience members and properly assess what they were thinking at the time.
Of course, in retrospect it's incredibly easy to see that what NesTea did at the end was a mistake, and that he should have done things differently. It's also really easy to sit back as an audience member with full vision of both players and say that one player is making a mistake based on what we can see of the other player. It's just really tough to really assess what NesTea was thinking and what he was doing as an audience member with the broader set of information that you're afforded.
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote: When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??
When they're maxed? Seriously, during the time he was maxed he was trying to find a way to engage without heading straight onto like 15 ghosts siege tanks and planetary fortresses in a choke. Then he attacked and it was horribly cost inefficient, he wasn't going to win that game head on no matter how he did it.
At that point no when he had enough blings to wipe the map clean. He sure as hell could have. IMHO it defaced the value of e-sports. Pretty much everyone here admits something was fishy but they don't know what.
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote: When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??
When they're maxed? Seriously, during the time he was maxed he was trying to find a way to engage without heading straight onto like 15 ghosts siege tanks and planetary fortresses in a choke. Then he attacked and it was horribly cost inefficient, he wasn't going to win that game head on no matter how he did it.
Ya i have seen Nestea maxed b4 what i have never seen is him or ANY pro for that matter maxed with 10k minerals building no static D no extra macro hatches no extra bases.
On October 28 2011 06:14 WNT wrote: When he rolls the dude and has nothing but a few hour break b4 the next games then plays 10x worse?? Somehow i don't buy that.
well thats completely understandable cause im assuming u must play at a bronze level and not realize how hard the meta game of sc2 is when u play someone alllllllll the time 24/7 as a teammate too. But congrats on sounding extremely ignorant since you know so much about playing on the biggest stages of Sc2.
On October 28 2011 07:08 WNT wrote: At that point no when he had enough blings to wipe the map clean. He sure as hell could have. IMHO it defaced the value of e-sports. Pretty much everyone here admits something was fishy but they don't know what.
Without any actual support of your 'argument', you should just get the hell out and stop posting the same thing over and over.
If anything is 'defacing' the value of e-sports, its people that make claims about fixed/intentionally thrown games without any proof. Next to that, your analysis is so poor and lacking actual understanding of the game that you shouldn't actually be commenting on actual gameplay.
On October 28 2011 06:17 1Eris1 wrote: If anyone through games, it was MVP in the first bo3 because he wanted Nestea to have a shot at the finals. (since he was already in the gsl finals that night.) See, flawless logic
Okay, time to intervene.
Nestea vs MVP's first series in the Blizzcon tournament was AFTER GSL Finals. Jesus, people. Enough with the match-fixing conspiracies!
Back on topic, I don't see any evidence of hostility on your part, Slasher. Fun interviews, especially the one with MMA where you talk about your hair. Thanks for posting these!
Just saying 100 banelings would not won Nestea that game unless they connected with the ghosts. Attacking into that choke can be potentially suicide. We all agree that if Nestea loses all his banelings there, the game is over. Nestea cannot scout the tank count, nor the planetary count, he cannot know if 100 banelings will instantly evaporate or be amazing. Sure, Nestea fucked up badly but don't tell me a plat player could have won against that mech turtle. Unlike Idra vs Puma, MVP had perfect defense, thanks to his amazing BW turret tank turtling TvT.
Dear god WNT can you give it a rest? This is a Interview thread not a "nestea threw the game away thread". If you feel so strongly about it, well keep it to yourself and just shut up. Let people have a chance to talk about the interviews if they want.
I think Nestea felt really really embarrassed at times in this interview-- it's his first international tournament, and this interview will be seen by a really wide audience. I think a lot of people expected Nestea to win, and this post-loss interview probably felt like he was losing face at times.
I cringed inside at a few points in the interview.
On October 28 2011 06:22 ElMeanYo wrote: As much as I love Nestea, something was going on in that final game... Cmon, 30 broodlords with no protection vs MvP's viking/ghost combo?
Either he threw that last game (unlikely) or he was just really really tired (more likely).
Can't take too much away from MVP as hes the best terran but still... I think after the winners bracket win Nestea had momentum and it was his tournament to lose and he did.
So sad, hope to see him get revenge at providence.
oh come on, the game was already lost at that point. MVP had a critical amount of ghosts and vikings with tank support.
Nestea could have done something else other than spend it on 30 broodlords and thrown them away.
I don't know what though. It seems to me like his thought process was 'oh well, I'm tired, had enough and feel I can't win so lets make 30 broodlords for the fans'.
That's exactly how I read the situation.
Look at it from Nestea's PoV.
MVP has owned him in practice *and* tournament games. Nestea had tried a Nydus, a doom drop, running around with banelings and an earlier hive tech attack that got slammed shut. Game has passed the 40 minute mark MVP has equal economy and soon to be greater economy with his more effective harass and nuke play MVP has no desire to make a game ending push.
So Nestea can sit there and die slowly, gg and look like he's quiting, or cobble something together for one last push (showy or not).
If we take out the last attack from the game, then doesn't it start to look more like any other spoon-terran style win?
By the logic of some people idra threw that game against MMA.
Its easy to comment on a progamer when you are just watching it through the point of view of an spectator. Its easy to forget that progamers are humans and can screw up.
Seriously no one has any kind of proof, stop with this Bullcrap about match fixing. I know you guys are addict to drama but this is just terrible.
Regarding the question about "Were you two trying to put on a show for the crowd?"
Here's a pretty literal translation of Nestea's answer. Hopefully this will clarify a little bit more than the in-video translation.
"There were some things. For instance, in the last game, originally I was thinking of attacking somewhere in the middle (middle in this context denotes time). If I had attacked there would have been a lot of hectic engagements but I wanted to show the crowd some units they hadn't seen. And even though I lost, [explains that there's a unit called a broodlord] I made more broodlords than have ever appeared in a game before. In that sense, I think it was good. "
Slasher is a troll with his conspiracy theory about Nestea throwing the game away on purpose and tbh he is also a very bad interviewer, half questions are redudant, useless or just bad, when he has Nestea and Mvp in front of him doesn't manage to get a good itw... that sucks
I don't understand all these comments accusing the players of match fixing/throwing the game away. Regardless of how good Nestea is, he is still human. He makes mistakes, he gets nervous, he chokes, its something everyone goes through. Not even Nestea can make the right choices 100% of the time.
You can seriously tell Nestea was disgruntled and tired, it made me cringe to see someone beat around the bush to get at something that would be a huge insult to Nestea... Hell, the redundancy of the questions is seriously trying to get Nestea to say something controversial.
And the translation is kind of off. Not as bad as the guy during the finals, but off...
Tiresome that people continue to imply match fixing with no evidence - it's a pretty serious accusation, there's this thing called burden of proof...if you don't know don't accuse.
If the disbelievers would look a little harder they would see that MVP and Nestea are actually trying to kill eachother every game. In the beginning I also thought it looked wierd but watching the replays showed me several good reasons why they dont play a "fixed" game. Really awesome, watch closer and youll see.
Thank you deverlight for doing some extra translation for us lol <3
Can't fault Slashers GF too much for not traslating perfectly as she's not a professional by any means, and I doupt she even knows the game well at all. But it really sucks how Slasher was talking about that last mvp/nestea game in his show, and that nestea interview is kinda painful to watch
Me I will still love both MVP and Nestea as much as ever :D
Supposing Nestea threw the game to MVP, the title isn't as important to an older guy like Nestea as it is to MVP. If the game wasn't fixed, Nestea can still shrug it off better. It's analogous to an older teen losing a game of anything to a little child. If MVP lost, he may have been on tilt for the rest of his career.
Trying to clear up some of the more controversy prone questions in the interviews so people don't get the wrong idea.
Dongraegu's answer on the question asking how confident he is about Providence seeing as MVP and Nestea will be there...
"Uhhh I feel like I won't need much confidence against them because they're both starting in the open bracket. There's so many good players in the open bracket and the seeding is such that for them to make it far enough to play me would be extremely difficult. I think they might (his body language and tone indicates he's hoping) get knocked out before then. So I'm going to focus more on the players in the top of the bracket."
DRG surprisingly seems to understand most of the questions in English. A few of the questions he just checked with the translator that he understood the meaning and then went straight into his answer instead of actually waiting for a translation. I wish we could've heard him speak in English
On October 28 2011 09:09 deverlight wrote: Trying to clear up some of the more controversy prone questions in the interviews so people don't get the wrong idea.
Dongraegu's answer on the question asking how confident he is about Providence seeing as MVP and Nestea will be there...
"Uhhh I feel like I won't need much confidence against them because they're both starting in the open bracket. There's so many good players in the open bracket and the seeding is such that in order for them to make it far enough to play me would be extremely difficult. I think they might (his body language and tone indicates he's hoping) get knocked out before then. So I'm going to focus more on the players in the top of the bracket."
DRG surprisingly seems to understand most of the questions in English. A few of the questions he just checked with the translator that he understood the meaning and then went straight into his answer instead of actually waiting for a translation. I wish we could've heard him speak in English
Thanks for this, can you give more literal translations of the nestea and mvp interviews? i feel like the translators while they tried their best (and sophie is awesome btw!) weren't able to truly... i dunno, explain what mvp said. like he'd give long answers, and the translator (especially mvps) would give these short answers back....
Don't wanna sound like a hater, but the interviews just seem so dry and uninteresting.
The questions seemed poorly chosen, the translator appeared to have no interest whatsoever with the interviews and the players just seemed tired and unexcited.
To everyone who is saying nestea threw away the last game with all those brood lords:
I feel like the translator translated nestea's answer very vaguely. nestea said he was thinking about attacking earlier, but the battle would have probably gone poorly for him. so in the end, he knew that he was going to lose so he wanted to end it with an unseen amount of a unit (brood lords) to entertain the crowd a little before the game was over
Wait question, the OP says that MMA delayed the GSL cus of his all-in and didn't want MVP to hear the crowd? Can someone elaborate on this, whether this is 3 ideas, 2 ideas, or 1 idea? I can't make sense of it.
Wow, looks like the vultures got to the first five pages of the comments.
On October 28 2011 13:34 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wait question, the OP says that MMA delayed the GSL cus of his all-in and didn't want MVP to hear the crowd? Can someone elaborate on this, whether this is 3 ideas, 2 ideas, or 1 idea? I can't make sense of it.
Slasher explained it better on Live on Three (I think?). MMA delayed the matches because there were sound-proofing issues. He wanted to make absolutely sure that MVP (nor himself) could hear the crowd because he had specifically planned an all-in for the first game. The crowd would have probably given that away to MVP.
I think his goal was to break the line with the broods and then come back with a massive 2nd wave of lingz.... obviously his micro fell apart on the blingz.
Has anyone here spent 14 hours on a flight and then stayed in a hotel where you don't speak the language and your having to trust random people, your sleep cycle is screwed...you consistently get bugged by people you don't know can barley understand to hangout with them.... Its his 1st time abroad.
He either got jet lagged didn't recover, or did some serious drinking and didn't recover. I really felt bad, I thought nestea look like he needed a snuggie (infomercial).
I usually don't criticize interviewers or anyone for that matter, but I really felt like these two players deserved much better questions and presentation. Sry Slasher!
I agree that Slasher's gf had difficulty translating, but at least she wasn't putting words into the mouth of MVP like the korean guy translator was doing. He was ad-libbing quite a bit to MVP's translation. It was irksome.
Slasher, your gf rox, so damn hot! She did a good job despite how little she knows about sc so props for that.
The interview with MMA, in my opinion you kinda tired him out with those type of questions. Having some more well thought-out questions would be more interesting to watch and easier to respond to for the interviewees. Some of the questions seemed too meticulous if u know what I mean.
On October 28 2011 06:05 Juvant wrote: Really irks me that MVP was more than willing to blame his conditions for his loss to MMA. :/
I suppose there could be some truth to it, but it's very unsportsmanlike for him to detract from MMA's brilliant play.
You cant be serious right now? You dont think mvp has some right to blame his conditions? After he is jet lagged and had to play a full day of tight gaame? Idk if youre serious or trolling
The NesTea interview kind of leans me more to my suspicion that he and MVP agreed to split 1st/2nd prize pool whoever won - I really can't see anyone trying to make unusual units to "please the fans" when they're playing to decide who earns $25,000 more than the other person. Kind of disappointing really if it's true.
MVP is a boss. Interesting that he dislikes TvT. I would have loved to hear what he thinks of the marauder, because I suspect that's why he's not a fan. . .
Thanks for the comments guys, both the praise and criticism. I think NesTea/MVP interviews went relatively well considering the circumstances, and yeah even tried using Quantic/IM's personal manager/translator for MVP. Sophie's been reading the comments and she enjoys them too! You can thank her/say hello to her on twitter if you'd like: http://www.twitter.com/sprigeri
With the BW news/Fomos article that just hit, one of my favorite quotes is MVP near the end of the interview. "Will you be able to stay at the top if the BW players switch over?" - MVP: "I am the king. Come find me." Lets see if he can hold to that!
On October 28 2011 06:05 Juvant wrote: Really irks me that MVP was more than willing to blame his conditions for his loss to MMA. :/
I suppose there could be some truth to it, but it's very unsportsmanlike for him to detract from MMA's brilliant play.
You cant be serious right now? You dont think mvp has some right to blame his conditions? After he is jet lagged and had to play a full day of tight gaame? Idk if youre serious or trolling
I totally agree with you.
Mvp had to play so tense "real match" all day long and even MMA delay the game intentionally to distract Mvp's concentration in order to succeed his cheesy all-in in set 1. and well, good for him, it worked. Maybe it could remind Mvp of GSTL Mar final. IM vs Slayers which he had to endure such a BM intentional game delaying of slayers. That could possibly shake Mvp's mind and make his play imperfect throughout the whole series.
In game 5, fianlly Mvp played like he is no other than the original Mvp...but it was too late.
Trollk - I see the same thing. Maybe something happened to the video links on the edit. Anyway, I extracted the direct http links out of the code so you can view them using the following, if the OP doesn't change:
wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
if you interview NESTEA please show more respect and interest. it is the first time for him outside of korea and you 1. keep asking useless questions like "what happenned there" 2. don't look or speak excited at all 3. talk of players/events as if Nestea should know them although it is obvious he does not. Korean sc2 players don't know alot about the foreign scene, especially someone like Nestea, who basically goes deep in every korean tourney and therefore has no time to watch a ( for him boring ) IEM China.
On October 28 2011 23:51 Naeroon wrote: wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
The other interviews were good though.
What the fuck was so wrong with the interview that is making people cry out for NesTea?
On October 28 2011 23:51 Naeroon wrote: wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
The other interviews were good though.
What the fuck was so wrong with the interview that is making people cry out for NesTea?
I would also like to know what people had a problem with.
What's wrong with asking a pro player to analyse a game they played? After all, that was what virtually all the discussion after Blizzcon was actually on - what was NesTea actually doing in final game? If you can't ask that question in an interview then what can you ask?
On October 28 2011 23:51 Naeroon wrote: wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
The other interviews were good though.
What the fuck was so wrong with the interview that is making people cry out for NesTea?
I would also like to know what people had a problem with.
What's wrong with asking a pro player to analyse a game they played? After all, that was what virtually all the discussion after Blizzcon was actually on - what was NesTea actually doing in final game? If you can't ask that question in an interview then what can you ask?
There is a difference between asking a legitimate question, and asking the same legitimate question five fucking times because the interviewee will not give the answer you want.
On October 28 2011 23:51 Naeroon wrote: wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
The other interviews were good though.
What the fuck was so wrong with the interview that is making people cry out for NesTea?
I would also like to know what people had a problem with.
What's wrong with asking a pro player to analyse a game they played? After all, that was what virtually all the discussion after Blizzcon was actually on - what was NesTea actually doing in final game? If you can't ask that question in an interview then what can you ask?
There is a difference between asking a legitimate question, and asking the same legitimate question five fucking times because the interviewee will not give the answer you want.
He repeated his first question ONCE after NesTea didn't actually answer it the first time. It seemed like NesTea simply didn't understand the question or there was a mistranslation considering how unconnected the answer was to the question so essentially repeating it while being more specific so that translation errors can't get in the way is exactly what a good interviewer should be doing.
Honestly, criticising this interview because it was ever so slightly probing about the actual games played, not some voyeuristic personal thing which is nobody's business makes me wonder what people actually want in interviews with pros.
Awesome interviews. Some felt a little long. I only saw the Nestea, MVP, and MMA interviews so far, will watch some of the others later. After watching these 3, I just wanted to add a suggestion. I think you should end these interviews by asking the players for their final words, shoutouts, any messages to fans, etc.
On October 28 2011 23:51 Naeroon wrote: wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
The other interviews were good though.
What the fuck was so wrong with the interview that is making people cry out for NesTea?
I would also like to know what people had a problem with.
What's wrong with asking a pro player to analyse a game they played? After all, that was what virtually all the discussion after Blizzcon was actually on - what was NesTea actually doing in final game? If you can't ask that question in an interview then what can you ask?
There is a difference between asking a legitimate question, and asking the same legitimate question five fucking times because the interviewee will not give the answer you want.
He repeated his first question ONCE after NesTea didn't actually answer it the first time. It seemed like NesTea simply didn't understand the question or there was a mistranslation considering how unconnected the answer was to the question so essentially repeating it while being more specific so that translation errors can't get in the way is exactly what a good interviewer should be doing.
Honestly, criticising this interview because it was ever so slightly probing about the actual games played, not some voyeuristic personal thing which is nobody's business makes me wonder what people actually want in interviews with pros.
I do not know how you can count that as "repeating once". Slasher spent six minutes on that topic (out of eleven total). Where was the enthusiasm ? Where were the congratulations for winning on Shattered Temple despite close positions ? Even if you want to be controversial, why not ask about close positions allowed by Blizzard ? No, this was just endless driving of the "how could you lose" question into the wall for six fucking minutes. Like Nestea was going to say "ok I admit I threw the game away" if asked enough times...
On October 28 2011 23:51 Naeroon wrote: wow slasher could you have been more of a dick to nestea if you tried? That was more painful than take interviewing Naniwas after HSC3. And THAT was painful. At least take was just doing it for the sake of the tournament, it really seems like you were fiending so hard to have nestea cry on camera or something.
The other interviews were good though.
What the fuck was so wrong with the interview that is making people cry out for NesTea?
I would also like to know what people had a problem with.
What's wrong with asking a pro player to analyse a game they played? After all, that was what virtually all the discussion after Blizzcon was actually on - what was NesTea actually doing in final game? If you can't ask that question in an interview then what can you ask?
There is a difference between asking a legitimate question, and asking the same legitimate question five fucking times because the interviewee will not give the answer you want.
He repeated his first question ONCE after NesTea didn't actually answer it the first time. It seemed like NesTea simply didn't understand the question or there was a mistranslation considering how unconnected the answer was to the question so essentially repeating it while being more specific so that translation errors can't get in the way is exactly what a good interviewer should be doing.
Honestly, criticising this interview because it was ever so slightly probing about the actual games played, not some voyeuristic personal thing which is nobody's business makes me wonder what people actually want in interviews with pros.
I do not know how you can count that as "repeating once". Slasher spent six minutes on that topic (out of eleven total). Where was the enthusiasm ? Where were the congratulations for winning on Shattered Temple despite close positions ? Even if you want to be controversial, why not ask about close positions allowed by Blizzard ? No, this was just endless driving of the "how could you lose" question into the wall for six fucking minutes. Like Nestea was going to say "ok I admit I threw the game away" if asked enough times...
Again, it was two questions of a total of 11. Translation issues and stuff made it take longer. The question itself was asked to NesTea twice, therefore you can count it as happening two times. It's pretty basic maths.
It was the major talking point of the entire tournament and he didn't seem to understand the question the first time so he phrased it more specifically. How is this bad journalism?
Saying he should congratulate on second place. . .well, I guess, but that's unrelated to the first point.
aww NesTea looked so sad and had to answer the questions like why he lost.... it feels like he is trying to make nestea to admit he is just not as good as MVP and there are no other excuses
Amazing interview, good questions, and I really liked the translation. She was not afraid to ask when she was unsure, which is great so we can avoid misunderstandings. Amazing job there. (PS offtopic but, I still love Milkis translations, love that guy too!).
Hope the IM crew figures out a way to make players more comfortable traveling and playing in tournaments. We all want Nestea to feel good and in good bodyshape when playing. Best of luck Nestea
I will try to transcribe some of these, it's just difficult because of the length and amount of other stuff going on. If anyone would like to help...:O)
Preface - I don't speak Korean, so I'm basically just writing what the translator said as is (minus the uh's and so's and repeats of ya-knows etc.)
INTERVIEW with MVP
S: You just won Blizzcon 2011. How does it feel? M: I am filled with great joy right now because I won the Blizzcon, but I still cannot stop thinking about last night's defeat. Last night I won 2nd place, so I still feel bad about it.
S: Is the defeat last night harder to take than the victory that you had today? M: No, not at all. It still lingers in my mind but this greater joy from Blizzcon 1st place is much bigger so I don't really care. Next time I will win.
S: How does the Blizzcon victory match up against all the GSL Code S championships? (This question was misinterpreted - the translator probably thought Slasher meant the tournament difference; instead of how winning Blizzcon compares to winning multiple GSLs.) M: The rules were different, so I had to kinda get accustomed to it. This tournament I had to play many foreign players, not like GSL Code S. In GSL Code S tournament, mainly there are only Koreans. That was the difference, I guess.
S: You'd always gotten the better of MMA whenever you two had played in the past few months. What was he able to do differently this weekend that he wasn't [able] to before? M: Actually when it comes to his skill or strategies, there was nothing different or special about it last night. But the thing was that he didn't really participate in Blizzcon, and he had more time to practice, and he had more time to sleep. So basically it was because of me, not because of him.
S: If you could do things differently, would you go back and do that? (preparation wise) M: First of all, it is pointless to talk about taking the time back. Back to the future past is impossible, right? However, because you are asking if I could be there right before the GSL final, I want to practice more the GSL final so that I could win.
S: You and Nestea seemed to play each other every tournament that you enter. How hard is it to continually play against your teammate? And do you have to mix it up each time you play? (Clarify: mix it up = different strategy/tactics/mind games) M: It is very hard to fight with him. Actually I think we're supposed to meet in tournaments because we both are good. He's a great zerg, and I'm a good terran. We're supposed to meet each other. It is okay that we meet each other. But when we meet in the Ro32 or 16, it feels really really bad. One of us have to leave the tournament on Ro16 or 32, so I have to live with that.
For the question when I have a game against Nestea, I try to utilize different strategies that I am comfortable with. Usually I try different strategies. That's all I can say.
S: In the very last map in the finals against Nestea, it looked like he had you, and he was going to be Blizzcon champion. But you are able to come back and take the win. Can you walk us through the end of that map and what exactly happened? M: Actually when I first met him in the Winners Finals, I got 2-0'd. But because it is Nestea, I didn't really feel bad. Instead I just try harder after that game. On the finals, for the last match the map was Shakuras Plateau, and the map is designed for a long game. If he goes long game, meta game, terran is good against zerg. That's why I try to go for a late game, and then I won it. (mistranslated?)
S: MLG Providence will be your next event. It's gonna be the National Championship for MLG, with a lot of money on the line. Probably gonna be the hardest international tournament outside of GSL. What are your thoughts going in, and do you think that you can win? M: I was lucky that I could participate in one MLG and won it, and I got seeded. (uh oh) That's why I am going to participate in this upcoming MLG Providence. Because this is a best-of-the-best tournament, I really want to win this. I will try my best, I'm gonna put my soul into it. I will win it. Watch me win it.
S: Which player do you think you're going to watch out for the most in Providence? M: Experience is very important when it comes to foreign tournaments. I cannot really think easier lightly of Bomber and MMA who have won MLG before. But if Nestea is gonna be participating this event, through open bracket or any kind of seed, of course he will be my best enemy. Even though he's my best friend.
S: Although you do have Nestea on your team (and you seem to end up play him every event), you go through many many TvT's every single GSL. Do you think that makes it harder for you to play in foreign tournaments because of the variety of matchups you have to play, which is about even across the board (TvZ, TvP, TvT)? M: TvT, the mirror match, is my least favorite matchup in SC2. I don't really enjoy TvT at all. It is very exciting to play against protoss and zerg in foreign tournaments, so I love it.
S: Final question. Some of the Broodwar players were actually here this weekend; including Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy and Jangbi. I want to know your thoughts of them coming and watching SC2 in such a large environment. Do you feel like this might try to get them into SC2 going forward? M: I cannot possibly know because I'm not in their brain. But if I have to guess, I think they will be moved a little bit, because the crowd was fantastic, filled with enthusiasm, and the willingness to participate and get to know the players. Once they experienced it, they will maybe come to SC2.
S: Would you be worried at all about your time at the very top if those 4 players or more switch over? M: Not at all. I will still be the king. Come fight me.
S: Thank you Mvp. We'll see you in Providence. (Translator: He wants to make a comment to his fans: He says, he appreciates your enthusiasm and huge love. He experienced it well. He wants to tell you that now IM is with Quantic; we have this partnership. Please love us, we are Quantic-Incredible Miracle.)
Preface - Once again, I don't speak Korean. And here I'm translating what I think Sophie's trying to say - for readability. (Apologies Sophie.) If anyone fluent in Korean wants to edit, please do so.
INTERVIEW with Nestea
S: What happened in that final game? N: I wish I could have played better. My condition wasn't that good, I've been tired and wasn't concentrating well during the game.
S: In the final game, you had a pretty big advantage, but Mvp was able to come back. What happened? N: When we played during practice, sometimes I lose and sometimes I win. This time [Mvp] was simply better.
S: Do you think [Mvp] was better overall for the weekend, or was it just that final game? N: Not just this weekend. To me, he is best SC2 player in the world. He's obviously better than me.
S: You two end up playing each other so much. How hard is it to keep playing each other as teammates? N: I think that's how it is. We're both good, so we keep meeting each other in tournaments. Sometimes I wish I'd stop facing Mvp so much.
S: Do you two ended up having to use different strategies each time you play because you end up facing each other so often? N: Today, especially today, I tried something different, because we're so used to each other normal strategies.
S: Were you two trying to put on a show for the crowd, knowing that this is probably the largest crowd you ever played in front of? N: There were some things. For instance, in the last game, originally I was thinking of attacking somewhere in the middle (middle in this context denotes time). If I had attacked there would have been a lot of hectic engagements but I wanted to show the crowd some units they hadn't seen. And even though I lost, [explains that there's a unit called a broodlord] I made more broodlords than have ever appeared in a game before. In that sense, I think it was good. (Thanks deverlight.)
S: How was it [like] to be at your very first Blizzcon? N: Not only is this the first Blizzcon I attended, but it's also the first time being out of Korea. This is the first time I've felt the passion and cheers from foreign fans, and I look forward to come back to experience it again.
S: MLG Providence will be your first ever MLG event - also the National Championships with the most amount of money on the line. It's gonna be the hardest tournament of the entire year. What are your expectations going in? N: I'm very excited because it will my 2nd foreign event after Blizzcon. I'm looking forward to play again in front of another passionate crowd, which was my favorite thing at Blizzcon.
S: The open bracket is going to be very difficult in Providence - playing a lot matches and a lot of hard opponents. Do you think that you'll be okay playing all those games, knowing they will be back to back to back to back? N: I think Blizzcon was very harsh for me, and I was pretty tired from all the matches. I'm a little worried that Providence will be even tougher for me physically. And to prepare, I will workout back in Korea while waiting for the tournament.
S: Lastly, this weekend is the first tournament in 4 weeks that a Korean had actually won a tournament, as Stephano, Huk and Idra won for the foreign and western scene. How do you expect Providence will go in terms of the Korean players vs. the western players? N: I'm not sure who's going to win. The competition is very close. I think it will depends on who has the best condition. S: We wish you luck in your first MLG appearance in Providence, and I guess we'll see you in a few weeks. Thanks for the interview.
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