EPT1.4.2 Patch notes PTR - Page 13
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:54 DMKraft wrote: EMP gets 45% nerf, every protoss I meet is cheesing, I am 1/1/1 this whole season, no more fast expos for me vs toss. If the protoss is cheesing then the EMP nerf doesn't matter. I do not know cheeses that hit after you already have ghosts with EMP ready. (Especially if you go medivac before ghosts, what most people do). | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10328 Posts
So maybe the protoss uprades might not be changed. Maybe it'll just be the shields that end up being changed. Or etc. Hope they fix gfx lag for me  | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
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Stamper
Germany148 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:34 Kava wrote: Area covered by: 1.4.0 EMP: ~12.6 1.4.2 EMP: ~9.4 25% less area covered by each individual EMP. Not game-breaking but it will be more difficult for a terran to EMP your entire army as long as you're not letting all of your shit cluster up. Isn't it pi * r² ? That would be about 7 instead of 9.4. Huge difference. | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:56 Condor Hero wrote: You seem to suggest TvP is completely fine as is. And you're suggesting this will fix it? I guess if Terran is losing it's fine, lulz. Them emp radius should have been 1.75ish as well. Infestors are fat as fuck. | ||
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
Uptoss is BACK! | ||
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
Oh god....... the joy. | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:57 avilo wrote: so protoss can get 3/0/3 in like 12-13 min now...i don't think this will turn out well.. They will get 3/3 just as quickly as they always did, just have a couple of extra units along with. Going for 3/3 you only save 150/150 total. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:30 SeaSwift wrote: Loving these changes. Blizzard DO listen to the community! I reckon this is mostly to solve PvT - cheaper upgrades won't make a massive difference in PvZ, whereas in PvT the 2 Forge mass upgrade style could really do with this buff. And obviously the EMP nerf is to stop blanket EMPs being so effective vs Protoss. Cheap upgrades is HUGE in PvZ, if you think about it. Considering Z has large quantities of units vs the quality of P, and P utilizing a lot of splash units vs Z (col, archon). This makes those units hugely better; given they hit harder and are harder to bring down. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On October 26 2011 06:56 YoiChiBow wrote: The upgrade nerd is ROFLCOPTOR status. Double forge is already rampant enough atleast on the Korea server. Going to be unstoppable now xD Except for the Shield change. That was unreasonably expensive, considering it only really synergizes with a couple strategies and tactics :D | ||
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Shield buff is fantastic, at least it gets useful now and may actually involve an interesting decision here and there. It's still an awful upgrade compared to the other two so it will usually still be weapons, armor, shield but shield lvl 1 does get better then armor lvl 2 now for example. (in PvZ at least). The other upgrades being reduced as well is a fine change too. The change will hardly matter much as by the time you get to lvl 3 upgrades 50/50 is quite a insignificant amount but it's still nice. Protoss upgrades were the worst of all 3 races already because most units didn't really benefit well from it given the cost so this evens it out a little bit. These two combined ofcourse make double forge in PvT and fast upgrades in PvZ alot more prevalant, which is only a good thing. The emp nerf I like less though. P is having equal problems with T as with Z at the moment it seems and making such a huge change for PvT and not so much for PvZ is not a good move imo, I actually think it will be quite likely now that P>T and Z>P still. 25% less radius means 43.5% less area which is just alot. It gets much harder to EMP entire armies now and missing some templar here and there will occur quite frequent as well. Perhaps the change is needed but it seems slighly big to me in combination with the upgrade buffs but we will see. Any existing ZvP problems will remain though, armor and shield both still stink in that matchup and the current problem of zerg being able to deny P a 3rd while getting their own 3rd quickly remains. | ||
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Geordie
United Kingdom653 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
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