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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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BalliSLife
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On October 30 2011 09:45 Ryder. wrote: Mutas attack range is actually 3, so it is still possible for Tempest to attack first if AtA range is 4. I have no idea if it is, however. AtA range of 4 would make it thoroughly useless unless it's as fast as a phoenix... and we all know that shit ain't happening. .... Vikings being "phoenix" vs Tempests.... | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On October 30 2011 22:21 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: Fact: Tier 3 units are designed to die to mass Tier 1.5/2 units. Trying sending equaling equal resource count BC against Void Rays and it's not pretty. Same goes for: - corruptors vs. Mutas, - Colossi vs Immortal, - Siege tanks vs. Thors. - Ultras vs roach - BC vs. Vikings, etc etc Tempest solves that problem by being a flying Thor (adjusted for balance). BC's SPLATTER voids... because if you get BC's you get yamato. Corruptors are not T3, they're the same level of tech as Mutas. Colossi in number STILL liquefy Immortals. Siege tanks in numbers STILL incinerate Thors. Ultralisks straight up SMASH THE SHIT out of Roaches. Which is why Muta/Ultra/infestor is the gamepaly of the future according to iDra and Nestea... BC's... yeah they do get smashed by Vikings... but Vikings are the best Air superiority unit in SC history (other than scourges) | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
On October 30 2011 22:53 ShatterZer0 wrote: BC's SPLATTER voids... because if you get BC's you get yamato. Corruptors are not T3, they're the same level of tech as Mutas. Colossi in number STILL liquefy Immortals. Siege tanks in numbers STILL incinerate Thors. Ultralisks straight up SMASH THE SHIT out of Roaches. Which is why Muta/Ultra/infestor is the gamepaly of the future according to iDra and Nestea... BC's... yeah they do get smashed by Vikings... but Vikings are the best Air superiority unit in SC history (other than scourges) I wish a rebuttal of your claims. - Most Terrans who rush BC against Protoss going zealot/stalker/VR will tell a different story. - Really? 6 Colossi (with range) vs 8 focus firing properly split Immortals and the colossi win? I don't think so, Tim. - That's my point. Siege tanks are a lower tier than Thors and in equal resources will melt thors. - Really... so 6 c.plating Ultralisks costing 1800m/1200g (not including plating) are going to smash 24 focus firing/stutter stepping glial r. roaches of same cost. I am *very* skeptical of your claim. Seriously. - So we agree on that point. Hence the speed boost in HotS. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On October 30 2011 23:02 BlitzerSC wrote: What happens if I replicate a MULE ? Will it expire after 90 seconds or not ? Why would you wanna do that? A MULE is like 4 SCVs, right? Well the replicator costs 200/200 and takes 4 supply, which makes it cost as much as 4 SCVs plus 200 gas. | ||
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
On October 30 2011 23:33 Euronyme wrote: Why would you wanna do that? A MULE is like 4 SCVs, right? Well the replicator costs 200/200 and takes 4 supply, which makes it cost as much as 4 SCVs plus 200 gas. Because if it is permanent you can actually mine over probes and increase mining speed? | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
On October 30 2011 23:37 drew-chan wrote: Because if it is permanent you can actually mine over probes and increase mining speed? Y not just clone a scv and make an orbital? | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On October 31 2011 00:21 raf3776 wrote: Y not just clone a scv and make an orbital? 200/200 for the replicant, 400 for the CC, 100 for the depot, 150 for the barracks. All that before you can get an orbital. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On October 30 2011 23:37 drew-chan wrote: Because if it is permanent you can actually mine over probes and increase mining speed? That's a retarded use of 200 gas. | ||
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latan
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
On October 31 2011 02:57 latan wrote: not if it's permanent. Then replicating an auto-turret or PDD will be the most imba thing ever. Since both of them will be fully upgraded. | ||
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Talic_Zealot
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On October 31 2011 03:03 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: Then replicating an auto-turret or PDD will be the most imba thing ever. Since both of them will be fully upgraded. Also, replicating scantipedes would be the even more imba thing ever. Since they will be in their fully evolved form. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On October 31 2011 03:10 Talic_Zealot wrote: With the carrier gone what's the Fleet Beacon gonna have on it now, it only had interceptor upgrade. In bw there are 22 total upgrades from the core, templar archives, citadel, observatory, robo bay, fleet beacon and the arbiter tribunal. WoL only has 8 I think. I imagine it'll be something they haven't shown off yet, if anything. I can see a speed upgrade for the tempest being a thing, or they could very well bring back Flux Vanes. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On October 31 2011 03:14 Daralii wrote: I imagine it'll be something they haven't shown off yet, if anything. I can see a speed upgrade for the tempest being a thing, or they could very well bring back Flux Vanes. Immortal range should be an upgrade. Hopefully, they fix that  . That unit is way too hard to deal with early-mid game as Zerg unless you hard countered it with a Spire because of force fields. I don't want it to be expensive. Just a short 100/100 upgrade from the robo bay. More upgrades like that would make Protoss certainly more interesting in terms of diversity. | ||
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Swagtacular
United States101 Posts
1: in PvZ the protoss and just make one pylon then use the nexus energy to make it into a cannon to kill early expoing zerg 2: in TvT or maybe and TvX the shedder can be dropped on enemy mineral lines are kill all their workers. WAY MORE EFFECTIVE than the old blue flame helions pre patch however i do love all the other new units and abilities. ive been playing as random and ive found each new unit very effective | ||
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XerrolAvengerII
United States510 Posts
On October 31 2011 00:22 Daralii wrote: 200/200 for the replicant, 400 for the CC, 100 for the depot, 150 for the barracks. All that before you can get an orbital. Fuck the orbital, just replicate for reactor barraxx!!! stimmed marine dropps VS terran as protoss!!!  can you imagine replacing zealots with blue flame hellions... hellion stalker colossus... that will walk all over terran bio i expect... (after all, hellions are superior versions of the baneling!) | ||
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
On October 31 2011 03:11 justinpal wrote: Also, replicating scantipedes would be the even more imba thing ever. Since they will be in their fully evolved form. brb rerolling protoss. | ||
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