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LeibSaiLeib
Profile Joined October 2010
173 Posts
October 26 2011 12:47 GMT
#7361
maybe this is what sc2, overpowered units for EVERY race, to make it more exiting, obv ballancing will be a bitch
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 26 2011 12:53 GMT
#7362
On October 26 2011 07:04 Whitewing wrote:
The Replicator I think was the unit they designed to kill the 1/1/1 all-in for good vs. protoss.

Can't 1/1/1 a protoss who has cloaked banshees and siege tanks can you?


Cloakshee might become the best unit in PvT... for the protoss side :D
Revolutionist fan
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
October 26 2011 15:41 GMT
#7363
Assuming Terrans don't bring a Viking along...
Cauterize the area
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 26 2011 17:20 GMT
#7364
On October 27 2011 00:41 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
Assuming Terrans don't bring a Viking along...


Not like they can afford to scan for 3 different cloaked banshees during a 1/1/1 all-in while you're producing off 2 base economy. And if they build a raven, you get to seeker missile all their marines, that can't outrun it due to lack of stim :D.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 17:57:10
October 26 2011 17:53 GMT
#7365
Wow so Protoss have Scroll of Town Portal in HotS? Sounds good to me. Not sure how I feel about having a replicant, would be nice to supplement. The swarm host, great idea, it'll make players really take it to the zerg and have to respond to some of their unit choices. The warhound and Hellion changes seem really awesome to me, hellions were too flimsy late game and it'd be nice to see more of them

Radiation field beware...
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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 26 2011 17:56 GMT
#7366
On October 27 2011 02:20 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 00:41 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
Assuming Terrans don't bring a Viking along...


Not like they can afford to scan for 3 different cloaked banshees during a 1/1/1 all-in while you're producing off 2 base economy. And if they build a raven, you get to seeker missile all their marines, that can't outrun it due to lack of stim :D.


Honestly with the replicant getting cloak, terran should never get a banshee.
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
October 26 2011 18:06 GMT
#7367
On October 27 2011 02:56 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 02:20 Whitewing wrote:
On October 27 2011 00:41 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
Assuming Terrans don't bring a Viking along...


Not like they can afford to scan for 3 different cloaked banshees during a 1/1/1 all-in while you're producing off 2 base economy. And if they build a raven, you get to seeker missile all their marines, that can't outrun it due to lack of stim :D.


Honestly with the replicant getting cloak, terran should never get a banshee.


Somehow I don't see them being much of a threat if properly prepared. We all know what happens when a Terran overcommits to a banshee opening. . .

More so if they are 200m/200g cloakshee. Losing just one is going to be huge.
Cauterize the area
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 26 2011 20:53 GMT
#7368
does anyone know how the parasite spell works?
Can you only use it once per viper? or can you do it as many times as you have energy for?
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
October 26 2011 20:57 GMT
#7369
^ You can use it as many times as you have energy for. I played it, and I specifically tested this out, as I saw on Friday a lot of websites, including TL, had the wrong information out about it.

Ocular Parasite costs 50 energy, you can cast it as many times as you want. It won't let you cast it on the same unit again, but that's because once a unit has the eye stalk, it is a detector forever and I guess the game doesnt want you to waste your energy ^^. But with the same viper, yes, you can potentially make every unit you have a detector.

When viper spawns, it has energy to do ocular parasite once.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 26 2011 23:01 GMT
#7370
Sorry if this has been asked but:

Will a shredder work alongside a bunker as long as the marines are inside it? Technically it would just be surrounded by buildings then.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
October 27 2011 01:21 GMT
#7371
On October 26 2011 17:26 kcbgoku wrote:
The only thing I surely don't and won't like about this expansion is the replicant.

It's kind of funny for me that in an argument about for ex. MULEs/larva/chrono and how MULE is better than the rest they say that races are not supposed to be the same/symetrical or whatever and at the same time they add an unit like Replicant to the game. Wtf...


Its the same but not really.
An infestor with zealot back up is different than an infestor with zergling back up. A siege tank with archon back up is different than a siegetank with marine backup. If you copy an enemy unit its functionality in the protoss army is completely different.
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 27 2011 01:25 GMT
#7372
zerg updates are pretty broken. burrow baneling is way to strong...
also viper infestor combo is too good.

toss is relatively weak and so is terran.
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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
October 27 2011 08:47 GMT
#7373
am I the only one excited about Replicafestor+High Templar drop on TvZ ?
2 units will kill drones in seconds
Put quote here for readability
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 09:00:08
October 27 2011 08:58 GMT
#7374
There is no flaw in having Banelings with burrow move, it would just mean that every race needs to be more detection aware in late game. The Infestor already forces this in nearly every match up already. Since, this will only be late game I do not think its completely unreasonable to expect Terrans to build PFs or Shredders + Missile Turrets as well as have Protoss protect their bases with cannons.

It is so late game, I doubt it'll affect many match ups. Protoss already should have observers with their army and Terrans at that point will have so many OCs that they scan spam scans as they do already against burrowed Banes. Or they could build a raven or two.

All in all, I don't see how it'll affect much. If it was a lair upgrade, sure it's imba. I just think a lot of people are not thinking it through.

On October 27 2011 17:47 sandyph wrote:
am I the only one excited about Replicafestor+High Templar drop on TvZ ?
2 units will kill drones in seconds


I'm more excited for when MC is about to win a GSL match and build 6 replicators and copies 6 mules and just dances them back and forth.
Never make a hydralisk.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
October 28 2011 03:20 GMT
#7375
On October 27 2011 17:58 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 17:47 sandyph wrote:
am I the only one excited about Replicafestor+High Templar drop on TvZ ?
2 units will kill drones in seconds


I'm more excited for when MC is about to win a GSL match and build 6 replicators and copies 6 mules and just dances them back and forth.




........

wait a sec does the replica stay as whatever unit you change it to permanently untill you change back or is it temporary.

4 supply for unit that mines what 6 probes could and have them permanent you wouldnt even have to go through the trouble making a command center and orbital commands just jump straight to the mule stage.
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It is 200 gas but that's ok you saved 150 on your 3 3
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
splcer
Profile Joined October 2009
United States166 Posts
October 28 2011 19:26 GMT
#7376
Wish protoss units were changed more seems like gameplay will remain pretty basic deathball which is sort of a shame
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Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
October 28 2011 19:30 GMT
#7377
On October 29 2011 04:26 splcer wrote:
Wish protoss units were changed more seems like gameplay will remain pretty basic deathball which is sort of a shame


Isn't the deathball part of the Toss theme though? I know they just don't want two deathballs bouncing against each other all game but if one race was to have a deathball I would say it should be Toss.
#2throwed
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 28 2011 19:41 GMT
#7378
On October 29 2011 04:30 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 04:26 splcer wrote:
Wish protoss units were changed more seems like gameplay will remain pretty basic deathball which is sort of a shame


Isn't the deathball part of the Toss theme though? I know they just don't want two deathballs bouncing against each other all game but if one race was to have a deathball I would say it should be Toss.


In BW PvT it was the other way around tho.
Revolutionist fan
galivet
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 20:33:31
October 28 2011 20:32 GMT
#7379
In WoL, it's widely known that the only options protoss have for dealing with mass siege tanks are carriers and vortex. But both of those are taken out of the game in HotS. I don't see anything new for protoss in HotS that helps protoss deal with mass siege tanks.

So...what are we going to do?

For those who don't know, mass tank beats mass immortal because of the splash; you can see for yourself in the unit tester.
alexey350
Profile Joined August 2010
United States22 Posts
October 28 2011 21:21 GMT
#7380
On October 29 2011 05:32 galivet wrote:
In WoL, it's widely known that the only options protoss have for dealing with mass siege tanks are carriers and vortex. But both of those are taken out of the game in HotS. I don't see anything new for protoss in HotS that helps protoss deal with mass siege tanks.

So...what are we going to do?

For those who don't know, mass tank beats mass immortal because of the splash; you can see for yourself in the unit tester.


Mass tanks is so useless in TvP.....
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