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Legatus
Profile Joined August 2010
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:35:24
October 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#3141
I'm just glad they didn't remove the Observer for Protoss. I was worried there for a moment because of the Oracle. Also happy that the Mothership is gone, but T_T about the Carrier.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#3142
On October 22 2011 05:31 wo1fwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:29 Teoita wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:25 Ares[Effort] wrote:
The new maps are absolutely retarded


Is it me or the second one is actually slag pits 2.0?

It's not just you. It looks like if Metalopolis and Slag Pits had a baby, only the SP genes were the dominant ones....


Ah ok. I got scared when a bunch of people said they liked it, thought i was going insane or something.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
October 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#3143
hots seems weird to play and the changes are all weird for the p race... but i want to play it now!
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 21 2011 20:33 GMT
#3144
so with 150/200 cost for Oracle I'm pretty sure it will be as "useful" as overseer.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3145
On October 22 2011 05:29 pzea469 wrote:
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On October 22 2011 05:25 tnud wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:24 emc wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:22 epiics wrote:
Everything toss gets besides the new observer is just gimmicky... Why give us a different carrier when we hardly used the first one. Fleet beacon is the least built structure so we will never use the new carrier. On the other hand Zerg gets 2 GAME CHANGING units with great abilities and many uses. To me this expansion looks like a very long and painful road for protoss.


did you completely forget the replication unit? You can mimmick ANY unit
, even those OP terran/zerg units. Toss now has an infestor.

Someone mentioned only having one thor, well guess what? You got goliaths now.

First, you can only mimic non massive. Second.. 200/200 for one. Better build your own damn unit instead lol


You could totally save them up. Build a shit ton of them. Then wait for your opponent to do something. Just have one voidray ready, one immortal, collosus maybe, whatevers. You see his army and BAM you got the counter right away. Idk just an idea. And I'm sure there's a lot I havn't thought of, but protoss having seige tanks could be huge. Not to mention medivacs.

It is impossible to think of any situation were a Replicant would be useful and even if there was a situation it wouldn't be any fun to use. Imagine trying to micro these stupid little probes into a PvZ battle trying to steal an infestor wtf? It would only make sense if you could take the big units but I;m not going to build thse for a "chance" to get myself a marauder or roach or infestor,
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3146
On October 22 2011 05:31 Apoo wrote:
The Zerg units are great and a perfect addition to the race.

The Protoss units look weird and got even more weird abilties, not a fan of it.

The Terran units got a nice concept behind themself, but the design is just very bad.


The Replicants sound super awesome--it's essentially free Mind Control for any unit you want. Definitely makes Protoss sound more alien-y imo.

But I can't help but think SC2 is turning into Transformers (Michael Bay or not)
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3147
On October 22 2011 05:32 msjakofsky wrote:
looking forward to pvp version of polt timing push with replicated raven


How would you replicate a Raven in PvP?
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 20:35:06
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3148
For all of those complaining about the Protoss units... Protoss has ALWAYS been the gimmicky spell centric race... If anyone even mutters about Motherships being overpowered or even defensive recalls being overpowered look at broodwar... where recalls and stasis rule the PvT Meta... Just be excited and happy. If anything is legitimately retarded they'll attempt to fix it. They've been getting better at that.
A time to live.
Treble557
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3149
On October 22 2011 05:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Seeing some of this discussion and watching the trailers reminds me of what I used to do during WoW after blizzcon or major patch notes were hinted at since I ran a successful guild. I forbid my guildmates from discussing any expansion or patch that was more than 1 month away or they'd be globally muted for as long as I felt or other such punishments. Jesus, I'm such a buzzkill. But the amount of speculation from things that will 100% guaranteed change before we see them is so meaningless to me. Also, until there's a lot of hands on testing, knowing what is actually good/bad is impossible to tell.

I will say, however, that the removal of the carrier seems wrong to me. Regardless of balance issues or desire to add another air unit, just removing the unit 100% seems sketchy to me given its history.


I feel as if we should be able to mute you now and not let you see any of this discussion... Give you a taste of your own medicine. :>
xTivo
Profile Joined June 2011
29 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3150
I wonder how many of these will actually make it
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3151
I kind of like the Oracle
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3152
On October 22 2011 05:30 Bibdy wrote:
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On October 22 2011 05:29 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:28 JiYan wrote:
so disappointing...instead of adding 1-2 solid units which they shouldve done, theyre adding 3 seemingly gimmicky units and taking out the epic ones. the zerg units seem to overlap too much with the infestor / brood lord.

Can you define "gimmicky" and "epic" to me, thanks.


Gimmicky usually means a unit that doesn't do damage, or only does damage in very specific ways (e.g. the Terran Whirlwindy thing that only does damage if YOU come to IT).

Sounds like a Lurker or burrowed Banelings...
Gimmicky would be like DT rush vs Zerg, less and less common as the metagame shifts, not like the Terran thing.
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3153
4 gate with a mass recall if it's failing....

::shudder::
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Kanuck
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada50 Posts
October 21 2011 20:34 GMT
#3154
really though warhound was an upgrade to the scv....

and apparently the protoss design team had one idea in mine... "what if they had more round units?"
There is no failure. Only feedback.
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3155
I LoLed so hard on all the AoE effects of the new units.
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3156
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3157
Still confused about a lot of this, not totally happy with the Protoss changes. The Terran changes seem kind of weak as well but I think Terran has quite a variety of units and abilities already.

Construct-able rocks seems downright silly.
@Triumph_eSports . www.Triumph-eSports.com
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3158
I'm underwhelmed by the new Protoss units, the new Nexus kinda makes up for it.
Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3159
On October 22 2011 05:31 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:29 Pipeline wrote:
I was hoping they would remove some terran units, like the marauder


Or at least concussive shells

They really dont want protoss to use stalkers against terran


Lol ever heard of Colossus?
Papillon
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany131 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3160
of course shit needs to get balanced but why are people so scared? they really didnt just go for the "1 unit per race" thing but rather added so much that no one can even imagine how the game will play now.

i think the game will become much better and surely will require many patches

i mean does anyone really think the game will become worse? those people should get bitch slapped
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