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boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
October 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#3161
OMG the video is so awesome :D
Treble557
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3162
Can someone please give us the exact details on the Hydralisk in HoTS? Is it still T2? Is it still Light? Is it the same cost? Does it morph into anything?

All we've heard on it is that it has a speed upgrade so far.

Also, the marine. Any chances to it's hp/range/dmg/cost/etc???
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3163
On October 22 2011 05:27 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:24 emc wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:22 epiics wrote:
Everything toss gets besides the new observer is just gimmicky... Why give us a different carrier when we hardly used the first one. Fleet beacon is the least built structure so we will never use the new carrier. On the other hand Zerg gets 2 GAME CHANGING units with great abilities and many uses. To me this expansion looks like a very long and painful road for protoss.


did you completely forget the replication unit? You can mimmick ANY unit, even those OP terran/zerg units. Toss now has an infestor.

Someone mentioned only having one thor, well guess what? You got goliaths now.

Can't copy Massive, costs 200/200. Builds out of Robotics bay.

Still, wouldn't hurt to have them lying around but I doubt you would ever get to use them until the late game, where you can afford spending 200/200 to copy a unit.

Probably crap against Terran but looks like it will be amazing against Zerg, provided the new Zerg units aren't massive

I guess you could turn them into a small flock of voidrays to snipe expansions and then put them back in your army as immortals.

Stuff like that might be nice to have as an option... but for 200/200 they probably won't be seen very much in pro play.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3164
Like their ideas, I'm sure they expect some of them not to pan out. That's what betas are for.

But units that tell you what the enemy is making? How the hell is that exciting? If this ever becomes an SC2 staple it won't even be exciting for the Protoss player. Nice unit art design though.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3165
also looking forward to zergs giving detect ability to a flock of mutas in zvp, they kill all observers in a fraction of a second and then 20 moving bane landmines kill a 200/200 ball
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3166
Since they like rocks so much. Maybe the nest "Craft" will be in the stone age. StoneCraft!
Catchafire2000
Profile Joined August 2010
United States227 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3167
Excitement needs to be tempered. Knowing Blizzard, game might not hit shelves until 2 years from now and quite possible that NONE of the units showcased today are in the final product.
jabooty
Soulriser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States192 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3168
still want to know WHERE IS ZERG SCOUTING!!?? are we going to be stuck with slow overlords until we have to research OL speed at lair tech?
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3169
On October 22 2011 05:33 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:31 wo1fwood wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:29 Teoita wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:25 Ares[Effort] wrote:
The new maps are absolutely retarded


Is it me or the second one is actually slag pits 2.0?

It's not just you. It looks like if Metalopolis and Slag Pits had a baby, only the SP genes were the dominant ones....


Ah ok. I got scared when a bunch of people said they liked it, thought i was going insane or something.


They like it because of the easy expansions. I hate it because getting 5 bases easily is probably a little too much.
kcdc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2311 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3170
The new nexus abilities are a million times better than chronoboost. PvZ expansions will be super-easy with the arc shield. Recall will allow your slow units to leave your base in early game. Nobody will spend energy beyond the first few on chronoboost.

It's easy to see how the new abilities will be used in PvZ and PvP, but it's less clear how good they'll be in PvT.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3171
Ugh, don't like the new units at all based off my initial impression. Why don't they just get the real defiler and lurker back for example?

Meh, perhaps I'm just being too conservative here. I guess I will withhold any serious judgement until I've actually seen these ting in proper action.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3172
I like that there's a defensive recall / retreat possibility for Protoss, but I feel it should COST MORE. In lategame Protoss is now able to dodge fights until they think its an engagement that favors them.

It also feels a bit like War3 , (portal back to main) ... and I don't really like that. Maybe the nexus should be destroyed after the recall, because as it is, Protoss will either recall away in the lategame or win the fight.
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
October 21 2011 20:36 GMT
#3173
On October 22 2011 05:34 TUski wrote:
4 gate with a mass recall if it's failing....

::shudder::


Uh...you won't have 75 energy on nexus for a four gate and if your four gate fails you're basically dead anyway..
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Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3174
On October 22 2011 05:29 Kanuck wrote:
every unit just a watered down version of something we've already seen (and wanted).

seriously, those terran units are disgustingly ugly.



Also, i had to laugh in the preview whent eh mutas got hit with 3 "major aoe" attacks, and not one died, no did we see health bars lol


To be fair, you were looking at 3 Tempests that cost 900/900 total against at least 2000/2000 in mutalisks. What did you want to happen?
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msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3175
On October 22 2011 05:34 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:32 msjakofsky wrote:
looking forward to pvp version of polt timing push with replicated raven


How would you replicate a Raven in PvP?


hmm my bad i thought they can just transform from a list like hallucination works
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3176
On October 22 2011 05:34 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 05:30 Bibdy wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:29 syllogism wrote:
On October 22 2011 05:28 JiYan wrote:
so disappointing...instead of adding 1-2 solid units which they shouldve done, theyre adding 3 seemingly gimmicky units and taking out the epic ones. the zerg units seem to overlap too much with the infestor / brood lord.

Can you define "gimmicky" and "epic" to me, thanks.


Gimmicky usually means a unit that doesn't do damage, or only does damage in very specific ways (e.g. the Terran Whirlwindy thing that only does damage if YOU come to IT).

Sounds like a Lurker or burrowed Banelings...
Gimmicky would be like DT rush vs Zerg, less and less common as the metagame shifts, not like the Terran thing.


Well we're talking about gimmicky units, not gimmicky strats.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the word 'gimmicky' had been used a billion times to describe both the Lurker and the Baneling before players got their hands on them and realized how awesome they are.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3177
600 minerals on thor? Sounds like we have a new humiliation unit.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3178
I seriously hope they will reconsider the scrapped units, it's so sad to see carriers gone for a glorified muta counter. And I can see a lot of these new units getting scrapped in beta. Especially the replicator, since it will be a pain to balance it I guess.
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NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3179
In conclusion, Zerg is happy, Terran is ok, Protoss is left to wonder what is to look forward to? They really put Protoss on the sidelines for this expo and it almost looks like they didn't try very hard on the Terran units either.
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
October 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#3180
A mothership vortex should be created if you try to replicate a replicant.
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