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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2761
On October 22 2011 04:47 qui wrote:
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that viper is the most ridiculously OP thing I have seen. Blatantly OP if it can pull massive key units away from the safety of the army like that. Don't know how they can possibly think its ok.


Kinda like how you can forcefield a ramp..


yeah hey let's whine
The universe created an audience for itself.
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2762
VIper look awesome! I dont like how the goliath looks but lets be honest guys terran does not need that much new stuff, i also like the new capital ship for toss
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 19:50:20
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2763
I think my favorite thing to replicate will be medivacs, healed chargelots drops are gonna be fun.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2764
On October 22 2011 04:38 XRaDiiX wrote:
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On October 22 2011 04:35 Novalisk wrote:
I hope the viper pull gets removed/changed, it looks really awkward.


Yeah it is really awkward but i'm going to love yanking those Colossus out of Protoss Death Balls :D

Then NP! To Steal it!


This will be entirely one of the best strats possible with this, grab 3-4 colossus to you then NP from the safe range, no way they can get in close enough to the infestors at that point with their army without going right through the zerg's army.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2765
Was WOL an open beta or no?
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2766
The Thor becomes the new mothership unit, this time as Terran..

The THOR will become what I suppose was it's initial conception. A super unit, with a massive punch...
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2767
Anyone have any ideas what the transformed hellions extra "durability" is?

I'm thinking maybe it loses its light classification and gains a point of armor or something. I don't see how its health could get changed upon transforming.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 19:51:02
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2768
On October 22 2011 04:50 AnalThermometer wrote:
I think my favorite thing to replicate will be medivacs, healed chargelots drops are gonna be fun.


ooh. I actually didn't think about that one that would be cool.
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2769
Will they ever be able to balance this stuff? The last thing zerg needs is another unit that spits out free units, see: infestor/broodlord. The thought of a flying defiler is going to give me nightmares. The terran units just seem like garbage honestly. The protoss units seem like garbage too, I don't really see any scary harass there, or anything that is going to let protoss take it's natural safely and on time (which is an issue in pvz and pvt imo)

I hope I turn out to be completely wrong and these units are all awesome and the game becomes very balanced. But I literally face palmed when I read the OP. This just looks like a bunch of people got drunk and threw out ridiculous ideas, and then every one stayed drunk for the next 12 months continuing to develop them. I predict they are going to have many "emergency" balance patches when people start figuring out how to abuse the hell out of this stuff.
:)
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#2770
One of the problems with announcing this is that it effectively turns Starcraft 2 right now into a lame-duck game. Why come up with new strategies when most of them are going to be invalidated/need to be heavily modified come HotS release? Are the games played today really going to be cared about 2-3 years from now, or are they going to be forgotten as "vanilla" games?
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2771
On October 22 2011 04:50 ssg wrote:
Was WOL an open beta or no?


It was closed.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2772
On October 22 2011 04:49 Chewbacca. wrote:
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On October 22 2011 04:45 eYeball wrote:
Carrier and Mothership removed, so they admit its a broken race lol


Thor removed

Overseer removed

By your logic all 3 races were broken....


Thor is not removed. It's been radically changed.

Now a superunit.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2773
On October 22 2011 04:46 hangarninetysix wrote:
Why does every unit have to have a retarded gimmick? Why can't we have units like the old dragoon, that had a simple concept, and was difficult to master. In the hands of a skilled player it was great, but was super clunky for noobs. A superbly designed unit, intentionally or not. I wish we had more units like that in SC2.


... You can't be serious, can you? BW had A LOT more "gimmicks." Although spells that encourage micro aren't "gimmicks" in any sense.

The dragoon was a terribly designed unit. Any unit that is terribly clunky for no reason and often glitches and fucks you over is not superbly designed. Besides, 99% of what you could do with a goon you can do with a stalker, it's just that you aren't fighting the same units.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2774
Feels like Protoss really need more stable good units, not some gimmicks.

A real harass unit is pretty much needed, not just an "overseer" type of unit that won't actually kill any workers and you can't skill with. Not to mention that two units are actually removed as well, carrier and mothership.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2775
ZvP: Viper pulls colossus. Replicant turns into viper. Replicant-viper pulls colossus back.

Hot potato
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2776
On October 22 2011 04:46 hangarninetysix wrote:
Why does every unit have to have a retarded gimmick? Why can't we have units like the old dragoon, that had a simple concept, and was difficult to master. In the hands of a skilled player it was great, but was super clunky for noobs. A superbly designed unit, intentionally or not. I wish we had more units like that in SC2.


Wait..did you just call the dragoon "superbly designed"? It was a hard to micro unit specifically because it's pathing algorithim was poorly designed. That was not on purpose, at all. It turned out to be a great unit sheerly by luck, not by purposeful design.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
October 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2777
On October 22 2011 04:50 cz wrote:
One of the problems with announcing this is that it effectively turns Starcraft 2 right now into a lame-duck game. Why come up with new strategies when most of them are going to be invalidated/need to be heavily modified come HotS release? Are the games played today really going to be cared about 2-3 years from now, or are they going to be forgotten as "vanilla" games?

You might call MC a lame-duck president
get rich or die mining
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Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 21 2011 19:52 GMT
#2778
On October 22 2011 04:48 cz wrote:
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On October 22 2011 04:35 Cain0 wrote:
On October 22 2011 04:33 SupItsG wrote:
Collapsible rocks rofl


I thought of another idea for rock, its called a tumbling rock. It sits onto of the natural expansion and if you shoot it enough, it flattens the expansion and all the workers. LOL.


This would actually be cool. Make it have like 50k HP and be situated pretty far from the natural too.


It also then chases the army kinda like that massive snow ball out of crash banicoot 2.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 21 2011 19:52 GMT
#2779
On October 22 2011 04:50 SolidMoose wrote:
Anyone have any ideas what the transformed hellions extra "durability" is?

I'm thinking maybe it loses its light classification and gains a point of armor or something. I don't see how its health could get changed upon transforming.


Seems pretty worthless tbh. Hellions mobility was always more useful in terms of survivability than HP was. It'll only be useful if the transformation time is pretty much zero. Any sort of delay on that and it'll only be used in big set-piece battles where Hellions are already not really useful.
Swiftly
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland160 Posts
October 21 2011 19:52 GMT
#2780
this will take some getting use 2
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