oGsMC 장민철 아 그리고 전철에서 내려서 호텔을찾는데 영어를 모르시는 프랑스분이 정말 친절하게 도와주셨다 어디를 가든 나쁜사람과 착한사람은 나뉘어져 있는거같다. 28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
oGsMC 장민철 해외를 정말 많이 나와봤지만 이런일은 처음이었다 여러분도 해외나갈때 소매치기랑 사기꾼 조심하시길바란다. 29 minutes ago
oGsMC 장민철 지갑안을 확인하고 he fukcing thief라고 했다 전철안에서 나를 알아본사람이 있어서 그분이 경찰서 가고싶냐고 물어봐서 지갑찾아서 괜찮다고 한후 보냈다 다음역에서 정말 빠르게 도망가더라 31 minutes ago
oGsMC 장민철 전철을 나가려고해서 내가 붙잡고 you wanna fight me? 라고했다 한국말로 나랑 싸우고싶냐? 하면서 뒤에 감춘 손을 잡았더니 sorry 하면서 지갑을 줬다 한대 때리려다가 난 외국인이라는게 생각낫다 그래서 주위사람들의 시선이 많이 느껴져서 31 minutes ago
oGsMC 장민철 정말 액션영화를 찍는기분으로 달려갔는데 그 소매치기가 멍청하게 전철에 올라탔다 그래서 같이 올라타고 반신반의하면서 등을 두드렸는데 나를 보더니 당황한기색을 보이더라 초짜 소매치기인거같았다 그러더니 나한테 무슨일이냐는 표정을짓길래 마이볼렛 했더니 33 minutes ago
oGsMC 장민철 그래서 우린 사달라고안했으니까 가라니까 그냥 갔고 기차와서 뛰어올라가서 탔더니 지갑이 없어진걸 느꼈다 그래서 떨어뜨린줄 알고 내려서 찾았는데 옆에있던 프랑스인이 저사람이 내 지갑을 가져갔다고 손으로 가르켜줘서 그사람을 쫓아갔다 34 minutes ago
oGsMC 장민철 프랑스 도착했는데 사기꾼 1명과 소매치기1명을 만났다 사기꾼1명은 우리가 동양인으로 보이니까 표사준다고하면서 1명당 14유로라고 자기 카드로 사는척하면서 내놓으라고했다 -.- 지가 손에서 꺼내놓고 알고보니 표하나에 1유로70센트였다 35 minutes ago
From MCs twitter just 30-some minutes ago. Now I'm not fluent in korean but it seems to me like he's really pissed about something, calling people "fucking thief" and stuff. Is it in any way SC2 related, or did he just get robbed or something? Anyone who speaks korean could maybe translate it? Also note that the tweets are in order from latest to earliest.
When we arrived in France, we met one Scammer and one pickpocket. The one scammer looked us and because we looked asian, he said that he would buy the tickets for us, and told us that it’d be 14 euro for one person and then pretended like he was buying it with his card and asked for money -.- after he took it out of his hands we found out that one ticket costs 1 euro 70 cents. And so we told him that since we didn’t ask him to buy it for us he should just leave, he just left.
We heard the train coming so we ran to the train and got on it but as soon as I did I felt that my wallet wasn’t there anymore. So I thought I lost it so I got off and looked for it, and a French guy pointed at someone and told me he took my wallet so I chased that person.
I ran after him like I was filming an action movie and he just go on the railway stupidly. And so I got on the railway and in disbelief I tapped him on the back. He looked at me and he was completely surprised. I think he was a noob pickpocket. And then he looked at me as if asking me what’s wrong, so I told him “My wallet”.
Then he was trying to get off the train so I grabbed him and I told him “You wanna fight me?”. And then I told him in Korean “You wanna fight me?” and grabbed his hand behind him, and then he says “Sorry” and he gave me my wallet. I was going to punch him in the face then I remembered that I was a foreigner.
And so since I felt that a lot of people were looking at me, I checked my wallet and then said “He fucking thief”. There was someone who recognized me and that person told me if I would like to go to the police but I said it was okay because I got my wallet back so I let him go. He ran away really fast at the next stop.
I’ve been in foreign countries a lot but this was the first time something like this has happened to me. I hope all of you become aware of pickpockets and scammers when you travel.
Oh, and when I got off the train and looked for the hotel, A french person kindly and cheerfully guided me. No matter where you go, I think there are bad people and good people.
jangmincheol oGsMC Oh, and he gets off the train and find the hotel you do not know English, French minutes was really nice and gave help wherever you're broken like a beast, and Samaritan. 28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jangmincheol oGsMC Looked abroad has never happened before me was a really, really, you walk into a somaechigirang overseas scammers please wary. 29 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC Check the purses and said he fukcing thief jeoncheolan me at two in positive id want to get the police asked if he was okay after watching Arthur finds the wallet had a saw and then run away really fast in reverse 31 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC I caught the train to swim you wanna fight me? South Korea says to me said, You want to fight? While concealed behind a wallet and gave a hand ... a ttaeriryeo deoni sorry it's like to be a foreigner, I think a lot better so I feel the eyes of those around you jyeoseo 31 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC I feel really taking action movie I went up to the pickpocket got on the train so as to be stupid while straddling the dubious and he saw me, I've been knocked novice pickpocket he seems to faze him then he seemed to me it's a shit what the expression meant are close to haetdeoni mayibolret 33 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC So we devised just one round would go Because I just went to jump the train climbs to come, so I took the purse 've felt tteoleotteurinjul naeryeoseo know I found him next to a Frenchman who took my wallet, giving him pointing hand went chasing 34 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC France to name but a crook a crook a pickpocket one person whom we have met would appear to be Asian as 14 euros per pyosajundagohamyeonseo magnetic card by pretending to buy a land -.- Give me was put out of the hands turned out, pyohanae was 1 euro 70 cents 35 minutes ago
Google's translation for those that are curious. From what I could get, he does seem pretty angry.
When we arrived in France, we met one Scammer and one pickpocket. The one scammer looked us and because we looked asian, he said that he would buy the tickets for us, and told us that it’d be 14 euro for one person and then pretended like he was buying it with his card and asked for money -.- after he took it out of his hands we found out that one ticket costs 1 euro 70 cents. And so we told him that since we didn’t ask him to buy it for us he should just leave, he just left.
We heard the train coming so we ran to the train and got on it but as soon as I did I felt that my wallet wasn’t there anymore. So I thought I lost it so I got off and looked for it, and a French guy pointed at someone and told me he took my wallet so I chased that person.
I ran after him like I was filming an action movie and he just go on the railway stupidly. And so I got on the railway and in disbelief I tapped him on the back. He looked at me and he was completely surprised. I think he was a noob pickpocket. And then he looked at me as if asking me what’s wrong, so I told him “My wallet”.
Then he was trying to get off the train so I grabbed him and I told him “You wanna fight me?”. And then I told him in Korean “You wanna fight me?” and grabbed his hand behind him, and then he says “Sorry” and he gave me my wallet. I was going to punch him in the face then I remembered that I was a foreigner.
And so since I felt that a lot of people were looking at me, I checked my wallet and then said “He fucking thief”. There was someone who recognized me and that person told me if I would like to go to the police but I said it was okay because I got my wallet back so I let him go. He ran away really fast at the next stop.
I’ve been in foreign countries a lot but this was the first time something like this has happened to me. I hope all of you become aware of pickpockets and scammers when you travel.
Oh, and when I got off the train and looked for the hotel, A french person kindly and cheerfully guided me. No matter where you go, I think there are bad people and good people.
Switzerland and France get a lot of pickpocketers (and great musicians on the trains). Sorry to hear that for MC, hope he doesn't end up hating all of France for it (I would have smacked that guy fucking silly if he pickpocketed me)
I don't know if they lost any money from this crap, but, assuming that they didn't, that story about chasing the pickpocket was fucking epic. So. Cool.
I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
Haha, this is awesome. I know pickpocketing is a huge problem in Paris (assuming they're in Paris?) from both personal experience and what friends/family have told me.
This is the first time I've heard of someone chasing the guy down and getting their wallet back though. BossToss indeed!
I don't know, everything just sound a little bit over the top to me. Well I don't know MC so I do not know if he exagerates stories or not (he is so much in the hero role in this story). On the other hand everything could also be true of course.
On October 21 2011 06:55 Sandermatt wrote: I don't know, everything just sound a little bit over the top to me. Well I don't know MC so I do not know if he exagerates stories or not (he is so much in the hero role in this story).
I guess if you see it from the theifs view, it's a completely different story! Poor thief
On October 21 2011 06:46 kawaiiryuko wrote: I ran after him like I was filming an action movie and he just go on the railway stupidly. And so I got on the railway and in disbelief I tapped him on the back. He looked at me and he was completely surprised. I think he was a noob pickpocket. And then he looked at me as if asking me what’s wrong, so I told him “My wallet”.
bahahahahah like a boss.
but yeah, continental europe can be pretty bad for pickpockets.
I was going to punch him in the face then I remembered that I was a foreigner.
Hahaha that made me laugh pretty hard. Good that he could find his wallet. And good that he can see some positive things about the country as well, not getting narrow sighted about France.
God.. Think what a scene that wouldve been. You are just minding your own business at the train station. And you see MC hopping over train tracks chasing some guy, yelling in korean, and almost punching a guy in the face.
God... Would be so awesome... I know im going to dream of this now :D
On October 21 2011 06:46 kawaiiryuko wrote: I ran after him like I was filming an action movie and he just go on the railway stupidly. And so I got on the railway and in disbelief I tapped him on the back. He looked at me and he was completely surprised. I think he was a noob pickpocket. And then he looked at me as if asking me what’s wrong, so I told him “My wallet”.
bahahahahah like a boss.
but yeah, continental europe can be pretty bad for pickpockets.
Am I right that continental europe means europe without united kingdom? According to the guardian London is top 10 in pickpocket http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/15/london-pickpocket-top-10 so there it isn^'t much better either. Maybe it is just the big cities in general, where this is a problem.
On October 21 2011 07:00 kvn4444 wrote: can't believe he actually chased the guy like that hehe. crazy story, glad he got his money back.
you dont fuck with the boss toss!
i'm glad he got his money back, this is just one more story to add to the legacy that is MC... has anyone put up on his fan page yet that he chases down pickpockets?
I was going to punch him in the face then I remembered that I was a foreigner.
Hahaha that made me laugh pretty hard. Good that he could find his wallet. And good that he can see some positive things about the country as well, not getting narrow sighted about France.
MC Fighting! Literally almost. That's actually super baller to like, realize you've been pickpocketed, then RUN AND CATCH THE PICKPOCKET. Super beast MC :DDD
Paris is a big city, always full of tourists, and as with all big cities, opportunists will take everything they get their hands on.
I've lived in France for a while now and knows enough to pretend that I don't see these people while making my way through every time I step into the vicinity of Paris. Grabbing a newspaper (if you're holding one, most people assume you're local, even if you're not Caucasian) and walking faster helps. Study maps before hand for all the trains you need.
There are a lot of french ppl who do this. When I was in Paris some weeks ago I met A LOT of them. Im happy MC solved the situation and uses his rage to win the tournament
Well as upsetting as this is, it certainly grows the legend of hte Boss Toss. He's not just swagger on stage, he owns pickpocketers. Now's the time to see a resurgent MC.
Someone in France tried to do the exact same thing to me with the ticket scam. He went through the menu of the ticket terminal acting like he was buying a ticket then acted like he was pulling a ticket from the machine's ticket slot, but it was actually an old ticket-- he didn't purchase anything, which we couldn't tell cause it was all in French. Luckily my friend saw his slight of hand, which I totally missed, and told him to piss off. Then the metro cops wouldn't let my friend leave and said he owed a fine of 500 dollars. He was like, "I don't have 500 dollars." The metro cop asked how much he had. He took his wallet out at which point the cop grabbed it, took all of his money, and said this is how much the fine is, which ended up being like 120 bucks.
On October 21 2011 06:51 Yaki wrote: I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
I wouldn't really worry about it. So many people make such a big deal about which country things like this happen in, but to be honest it's really just chance for the most part. It could happen in almost any country and it just happened to be France this time, I don't really think it should be blamed at all on the country.
The one time I was on the Paris subway someone tried to pickpocket me. He was quite bad at it though all it took was grabbing him by the wrist and giving him the death stare to make him get the fuck outta there.
French people, what's up with the pickpocketing on your public transport?
On October 21 2011 06:51 Yaki wrote: I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
I wouldn't really worry about it. So many people make such a big deal about which country things like this happen in, but to be honest it's really just chance for the most part. It could happen in almost any country and it just happened to be France this time, I don't really think it should be blamed at all on the country.
Nah I think its more a French problem. If you read the thread there are only stories about this from ppl visiting france. Its really sad
This is very close to what I experienced in my three days in Paris. Had nowhere near those kinds of problems in Amsterdam, Copenhagen or Barcelona. The Parisian public transport system is just full of scammers and scumbags preying on tourists.
I really appreciate that his final message was simply for people to be aware of scammers and pickpockets when travelling, and not that France is full of them. Mature story-telling from MC.
On October 21 2011 07:24 Bluepancho wrote: lived in paris for almost 10 years and it never happened to me just luck i guess
seems like you arent a tourist.
though when i got scamed a man helped me. he was spanish and we couldnt talk in english nor in french and after some minutes of gestures and short words i found out his sister is married to a german and we spoke in german. end of the story: there are sscammers who "work" to scam tourists. but there are also a lot of nice ppl who help you
1) use one of those travelling mini-pouched which have a strap that goes around your shoulder. Tuck your wallet, passport, anything you hold dear. Then tuck it INSIDE your jacket.
2) have a fake wallet in your pocket, and stuff pitiful amounts of paper money in there(or just enough cash for you to use for the next immediate transaction)
MC you are such a badass what tools trying scam and steal you. I am sorry for the bad luck, such a shame people are like this..... Great story none the less, I like MC more for some reason...
The guy should be proud, he almost robbed a president :D All in all not really a big deal i think since it got resolved pretty quickly by mc, still a nice story with a happy ending ofc.
I've been to London, Rome, and Paris several times and in my limited experience I saw the police actively try to keep the gypsies, thieves and scammers out of the metros in London and Rome, well in Paris I got the impression they don't really give a shit.
LOL. I am now a bigger fan of MC than before. That was really awesome, I'm surprised he was able to respond just enough without losing it completely, I know I would be the one arrested for assault if I caught the thief actually and it really is hard to maintain your cool when you catch a thief.
dear mods, please let me say this unpunished: "cool story Bro" (cuz it`s true) =)
Imagine the (nooby) pickpockets face after MC tapped him on the shoulder and he turned around, just to see a human owl screaming at him "You wanna fight me?". #priceless #IwishIwasthere
What a baller, living in Paris, the most impressive thing for me is that he actually chased the guy down to the railway as that's where they hide when they steal but it's extremely dangerous and of course forbidden. No doubt he was surprised no one but Kratoss would chase him in the depths of Paris. Epic story lol.
Haha sick story man. You don't rob the kratoss protoss! Though it is kind of dangerous chasing a thief. Good thing he didn't have a weapon or anything and MC got his wallet back!
And so since I felt that a lot of people were looking at me, I checked my wallet and then said “He fucking thief”. There was someone who recognized me and that person told me if I would like to go to the police but I said it was okay because I got my wallet back so I let him go. He ran away really fast at the next stop.
This is the awesomest part. Some person in some metro in some part of Paris in some time of the day recognized that the korean being robbed was god damn MC. The Boss Toss. How fucking awesome isnt that? E-Sports hwaiting!!
Sadly France is full of Pickpockets. While i was there i got pick pocketed twice and was lucky enough to get the wallet back as a passing person grabbed it off the thieves.
YOU WANT TO FIGHT ME!?? hahaha oh MC why you so boss? But really this is a terrible story, Hopefully the Koreans will learn of the dangers of travelling in the rest of the world where people aren't as well mannered as koreans. It could have just as easily happened in america or anywhere else in europe, so i wont hate on france.
There are pickpockets everywhere idk why people are saying "hope he doesn't hate french people for this". Of course he doesn't this shit happens everywhere all the time.
On October 21 2011 08:13 TheRPGAddict wrote: There are pickpockets everywhere idk why people are saying "hope he doesn't hate french people for this". Of course he doesn't this shit happens everywhere all the time.
He actually already said something like this on twitter anyway, so no he doesn't hate french people.
On October 21 2011 08:09 VTPerfect wrote: Gosh there's nothing terrans wouldnt do these days to dethrone the Kratoss.
Couldn't have been a Terran. He could've just muled if he was poor
he was poor cause MC Kratossed all his bunkers so he tried to Mule MC's natural expansion and MC Zealot Charged the thief with his Psi blade and was about to lay down a feedback but felt pity that the thiefs existance was so short and left him on the ground disgraced... I play too much sc2.
I was waiting for the M. Night Shyamalan-esque twist in the story. The thief turns out to be the guy that pointed out who the "thief" was to get MC to waste his time, while he makes his getaway unnoticed.
At one point pick pocketing was rampant in Amsterdam's public transport. Because they'd cut your pockets open on the tram/bus etc some people had empty wallets with just a "fuck you" note in em. Even if you kept your wallet in a different place, buying new jeans is pretty expensive too.
Why are there so many pick pockets in Europe? When I lived in Barcelona I had many friends that were pick-pocketed on the street. I've lived almost my entire life in the US and have never experienced this. On the other hand I do look pretty intimidating. ^ ^
I'm not really surprised. Paris gets six million tourists a year; you have to take special care when taking the Metro, especially during holiday seasons. I can imagine the hell it must be to have something stolen while not speaking the language. It's nice though that someone recognized him and offered to help him contact the police if he hadn't recovered his wallet.
Paris is a very beautiful city, but it falls victim to its success as a tourist destination. :-/
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On October 21 2011 08:26 darkness wrote: You can't steal from Boss Toss! It's impossible. Seriously, I question France's cameras. This guy should have been arrested.
This is impossible to see in a train station with hundreds of people walking around you. If you don't realize you're being pickpocketed, how will cameras even help? By recognizing the thief? He'll be long gone anyway.
On October 21 2011 08:27 scaban84 wrote: Why are there so many pick pockets in Europe? When I lived in Barcelona I had many friends that were pick-pocketed on the street. I've lived almost my entire life in the US and have never experienced this. On the other hand I do look pretty intimidating. ^ ^
Americans don't pack into dense crowds, Americans don't use public trans as much, Americans have a nonzero chance of having a firearm.
On October 21 2011 08:27 scaban84 wrote: Why are there so many pick pockets in Europe? When I lived in Barcelona I had many friends that were pick-pocketed on the street. I've lived almost my entire life in the US and have never experienced this. On the other hand I do look pretty intimidating. ^ ^
Americans don't pack into dense crowds, Americans don't use public trans as much, Americans have a nonzero chance of having a firearm.
Can we please not derail this thread into America against Europe?
On October 21 2011 08:27 scaban84 wrote: Why are there so many pick pockets in Europe? When I lived in Barcelona I had many friends that were pick-pocketed on the street. I've lived almost my entire life in the US and have never experienced this. On the other hand I do look pretty intimidating. ^ ^
Americans don't pack into dense crowds, Americans don't use public trans as much, Americans have a nonzero chance of having a firearm.
Yep, this is how the average dutch bus looks like:
j/k ofc but they're so full during rush hour you can't move an inch.
That... that image is basically artosis-face-tier. That just totally ruined and/or made my day. Good work, cklrkzk. good work.
The milkis/milkies typo is super common. I've also often IMed people talking about milkis and they're like "oh yeah she casted for GSL right" and i'm like "no Milkis is a dude" and they're like "WWAAAAAAAT" and i'm like "Milkis=/=KellyMilkies...." and they're like "ah, that makes sense now.
On October 21 2011 08:22 CountChocula wrote: I was waiting for the M. Night Shyamalan-esque twist in the story. The thief turns out to be the guy that pointed out who the "thief" was to get MC to waste his time, while he makes his getaway unnoticed.
thats what he did, except he stole MC's Sc2 skills like those aliens from space jam. the wallet was a diversion. look for a random frenchie to go far in this upcoming tournament...
On October 21 2011 08:09 SensFaiL wrote: does anyone think teams should start hiring some sort of securtiy for times like these?
Do you think everyone should hire security when they travel to a foreign country for fear of pickpocketing?
-_-
Then there's no reason people who play Starcraft should either. It would only be comical at best anyway.
I do think this instance could have been a lot more serious had the pick pocketer had some sort of weapon in this situation. I really think some teams should really think about this in the future.
On October 21 2011 08:09 SensFaiL wrote: does anyone think teams should start hiring some sort of securtiy for times like these?
Do you think everyone should hire security when they travel to a foreign country for fear of pickpocketing?
-_-
Then there's no reason people who play Starcraft should either. It would only be comical at best anyway.
I do think this instance could have been a lot more serious had the pick pocketer had some sort of weapon in this situation. I really think some teams should really think about this in the future.
Security is extremely expensive. Especially in this situation. Having even a one-man guard for half a day would cost as much money as the plane ticket to France, maybe even more.
who wants to fight an asian, never know if they are chinese kung fu masters since we cant tell difference of korean/chinese/japanese, or i cant, so i would give it back ahhaah.
On October 21 2011 08:09 SensFaiL wrote: does anyone think teams should start hiring some sort of securtiy for times like these?
Do you think everyone should hire security when they travel to a foreign country for fear of pickpocketing?
-_-
Then there's no reason people who play Starcraft should either. It would only be comical at best anyway.
I do think this instance could have been a lot more serious had the pick pocketer had some sort of weapon in this situation. I really think some teams should really think about this in the future.
Security is extremely expensive. Especially in this situation. Having even a one-man guard for half a day would cost as much money as the plane ticket to France, maybe even more.
Also, most pickpocket do not carry weapons-- it's risky to do so. You use crowds as stealth and target tourists. Your main goal is to avoid any sort of confrontation, get the wallet or cell phone, and fade into the crowd. Ideally you go for people who don't speak the common language and to whom you will not look unusual.
A weapon doesn't make your pick-pocketing more successful, or your escape more likely, and increases your criminal liability.
On October 21 2011 08:09 SensFaiL wrote: does anyone think teams should start hiring some sort of securtiy for times like these?
Do you think everyone should hire security when they travel to a foreign country for fear of pickpocketing?
-_-
Then there's no reason people who play Starcraft should either. It would only be comical at best anyway.
I do think this instance could have been a lot more serious had the pick pocketer had some sort of weapon in this situation. I really think some teams should really think about this in the future.
Security is extremely expensive. Especially in this situation. Having even a one-man guard for half a day would cost as much money as the plane ticket to France, maybe even more.
Well ya I agree with that, but even if some of these events provided some sort of security or made sure some sort of greeter were always there to meet the players and give them a run down on what to watch out for, or even if teams were more pro active in telling players ways to stay safe.
On October 21 2011 09:02 MozoM wrote: Damn! Chargelot MC coming at you!
I guess that this thread will slightly digress into "Bulgarian Riot's" in less than ten pages.
haha yeah. MC definitely upgraded those legs. Good to know that MC didn't get hurt and that he didn't automatically think that all French people are like that. Cool to read that someone was trying to help him at the end.
In Europe it's kind of common knowledge that big cities have all kind of scammers, pickpockets, aiming for people who look like tourists. I won't walk around in Paris, Amsterdam, Rome with a wallet in sight.
If that doesn't happen in Korea's big cities MC couldn't have known. Shouldn't he somehow been warned for this kind of stuff by the tournament organisers, his team coaches, or other people who arrange his journey? Stuff that you should really know? Like when in amsterdam don't take a taxi.
On October 21 2011 09:37 Zandar wrote: In Europe it's kind of common knowledge that big cities have all kind of scammers, pickpockets, aiming for people who look like tourists. I won't walk around in Paris, Amsterdam, Rome with a wallet in sight.
If that doesn't happen in Korea's big cities MC couldn't have known. Shouldn't he somehow been warned for this kind of stuff by the tournament organisers, his team coaches, or other people who arrange his journey? Stuff that you should really know? Like when in amsterdam don't take a taxi.
Hurray for France! Giving me another reason to be ashamed everyday.
I lived in Korea for a few years, it feels like the safest country on earth. No one will ever attempt to steal anything even if you leave it unprotected. So when Koreans go to France, they should be understand that it's not the same deal!
On October 21 2011 09:37 Zandar wrote: In Europe it's kind of common knowledge that big cities have all kind of scammers, pickpockets, aiming for people who look like tourists. I won't walk around in Paris, Amsterdam, Rome with a wallet in sight.
If that doesn't happen in Korea's big cities MC couldn't have known. Shouldn't he somehow been warned for this kind of stuff by the tournament organisers, his team coaches, or other people who arrange his journey? Stuff that you should really know? Like when in amsterdam don't take a taxi.
why do you not take a taxi in amsterdam?
Same reason as in Mexico probably: good chance cab drivers will rob you.
france is known for the pick pocketing and scammers. Not like places in North America. Please MC, don't change your mind about traveling to different places to complete.
90% chance that he will rip you off, drives twice the distance neccessary, things like that. In the rest of the Netherlands taxi's are ok, in amsterdam they have a really bad reputation.
On October 21 2011 09:37 Zandar wrote: In Europe it's kind of common knowledge that big cities have all kind of scammers, pickpockets, aiming for people who look like tourists. I won't walk around in Paris, Amsterdam, Rome with a wallet in sight.
If that doesn't happen in Korea's big cities MC couldn't have known. Shouldn't he somehow been warned for this kind of stuff by the tournament organisers, his team coaches, or other people who arrange his journey? Stuff that you should really know? Like when in amsterdam don't take a taxi.
why do you not take a taxi in amsterdam?
why WOULD you take a taxi in amsterdam?
you can walk everywhere and cars just get stuck behind bikes anyway
tram ftw if you are really that lazy
just be careful with any valuables, the same thing you would say to someone going to any major city
Amsterdam.. Last time I was there, I think I got off pretty lucky. Parts of my backpack had been opened when I was sitting down on a bench looking away for just a second. Luckily I had no valuables in the outer pockets. A friend of mine lost her cellphone around the same time though.
On October 21 2011 06:47 PraetorialGamer wrote: + Show Spoiler +
jangmincheol oGsMC Oh, and he gets off the train and find the hotel you do not know English, French minutes was really nice and gave help wherever you're broken like a beast, and Samaritan. 28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jangmincheol oGsMC Looked abroad has never happened before me was a really, really, you walk into a somaechigirang overseas scammers please wary. 29 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC Check the purses and said he fukcing thief jeoncheolan me at two in positive id want to get the police asked if he was okay after watching Arthur finds the wallet had a saw and then run away really fast in reverse 31 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC I caught the train to swim you wanna fight me? South Korea says to me said, You want to fight? While concealed behind a wallet and gave a hand ... a ttaeriryeo deoni sorry it's like to be a foreigner, I think a lot better so I feel the eyes of those around you jyeoseo 31 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC I feel really taking action movie I went up to the pickpocket got on the train so as to be stupid while straddling the dubious and he saw me, I've been knocked novice pickpocket he seems to faze him then he seemed to me it's a shit what the expression meant are close to haetdeoni mayibolret 33 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC So we devised just one round would go Because I just went to jump the train climbs to come, so I took the purse 've felt tteoleotteurinjul naeryeoseo know I found him next to a Frenchman who took my wallet, giving him pointing hand went chasing 34 minutes ago
jangmincheol oGsMC France to name but a crook a crook a pickpocket one person whom we have met would appear to be Asian as 14 euros per pyosajundagohamyeonseo magnetic card by pretending to buy a land -.- Give me was put out of the hands turned out, pyohanae was 1 euro 70 cents 35 minutes ago
Google's translation for those that are curious. From what I could get, he does seem pretty angry.
On October 21 2011 06:51 Yaki wrote: I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
I wouldn't really worry about it. So many people make such a big deal about which country things like this happen in, but to be honest it's really just chance for the most part. It could happen in almost any country and it just happened to be France this time, I don't really think it should be blamed at all on the country.
Nah I think its more a French problem. If you read the thread there are only stories about this from ppl visiting france. Its really sad
Yep as soon as I read that, I felt like "Well man, welcome to France!!". The air is real bad right now. I would never steal anything from anyone, but I understand some of those kis (some only). Feel like the verge of destruction in some neighbourhood.
On October 21 2011 07:19 Sueco wrote: This is very close to what I experienced in my three days in Paris. Had nowhere near those kinds of problems in Amsterdam, Copenhagen or Barcelona. The Parisian public transport system is just full of scammers and scumbags preying on tourists.
I dont know about other european cities, but having been to Germany and France, I was surprised at the rudeness of people (especially Taxi Drivers) in Paris when compared to the really friendly and nice people in Germany. I took a taxi from the hotel to eiffel tower, and I had like one backpack with me. The taxi driver forced me to load the backpack into the boot, and I put it in, blissfully unaware that they charge extra for the putting stuff in the boot. Finally when he gives me the bill, I was totally pissed off, but had no option but to comply and give him the extra money. And I also suspect that he took a roundabout route to get to the place since the distance indicated on map and the distance that he actually drove were quiet a bit different.
On October 21 2011 07:19 Sueco wrote: This is very close to what I experienced in my three days in Paris. Had nowhere near those kinds of problems in Amsterdam, Copenhagen or Barcelona. The Parisian public transport system is just full of scammers and scumbags preying on tourists.
I dont know about other european cities, but having been to Germany and France, I was surprised at the rudeness of people (especially Taxi Drivers) in Paris when compared to the really friendly and nice people in Germany. I took a taxi from the hotel to eiffel tower, and I had like one backpack with me. The taxi driver forced me to load the backpack into the boot, and I put it in, blissfully unaware that they charge extra for the putting stuff in the boot. Finally when he gives me the bill, I was totally pissed off, but had no option but to comply and give him the extra money. And I also suspect that he took a roundabout route to get to the place since the distance indicated on map and the distance that he actually drove were quiet a bit different.
Taxi suck ass in paris, but most of them are not the average French...
Every time someone steals MC's minerals with a scout from now on, I'm going to picture him getting up out of his booth, running over to them, and demanding his minerals back.
Nah I think its more a French problem. If you read the thread there are only stories about this from ppl visiting france. Its really sad
Nope, its the same all over Europe, i's just the fact that Paris is the most visited city in the world(and is more populated). It's actually the same people in every european capital that does that. They're like a mafia sort of.
Glad he got his stuff back but that kind of brazen action in a foreign country could lead to MC getting seriously hurt by a harder criminal if it hadn't been a pickpocketing noob.
Typical Paris these years. There are recorded messages reminding you to check for your stuff every 2 minutes in all public places. But those guys, they wait for you at the airport by the train ticket machines before you even realise you are in another country.
He was lucky to recover his wallet; it has usualy passed two or three different hands before you realise. Truly, that guy was a n00b, fortunately for MC.
On October 21 2011 10:38 Multifail wrote: Saying pickpocketing is only a French thing is stupid.
Go to Rome or Naples and tell me that. Actually, they don't pick your pocket in Naples. They just ride by on scooters and steal your shit. Seriously.
And those are the nice ones.
Edit: Glad MC got his stuff back, without violence. Going to jail in a foreign country is horrible (not that I've been in jail).
No one is saying pickpocketing is only in france, in fact people would be very ignorant to think such a thing. But for those who visited france (more specifically paris) would know that pickpockets are much more prominent there then many other European countries (well, greece being an exception).
Nah I think its more a French problem. If you read the thread there are only stories about this from ppl visiting france. Its really sad
Nope, its the same all over Europe, i's just the fact that Paris is the most visited city in the world(and is more populated). It's actually the same people in every european capital that does that. They're like a mafia sort of.
By same people I assume you mean non-natives (eastern europeans, africans, gypsies, etc...). Well I agree with that part, but in my limited experience (I don't live in europe although I did live there previously for one year) the difference between the metros in france and the other ones I went through was that the police did not give a shit and were not actively sweeping the place and kicking out the suspicious people. There were a lot more shady characters and a lot less police presence in the french metros. In Rome I even saw the Carabinieri drag a gypsy girl out by her hair, you can say there is some degree of racism since they tend to target minorities but they keep the metros mostly safe from thieves these days (past 5 years).
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
Christian Bale in The Protoss Knight.
More like the dark templar.
Plus, I'm not really surprised that the thief surrended and gave the wallet back that quickly given his nationality.
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
Christian Bale in The Protoss Knight.
More like the dark templar.
Plus, I'm not really surprised that the thief surrended and gave the wallet back that quickly given his nationality.
Well played sir, that is indeed a better movie title.
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
Christian Bale in The Protoss Knight.
More like the dark templar.
Plus, I'm not really surprised that the thief surrended and gave the wallet back that quickly given his nationality.
I travel to France quite often on business and the first few times was unfortunate enough to use the public urinals they call transport. I expected it to be like other public systems in the world however I was very surprised at the disgraceful acts of the people travelling, The only thing I can say is at least you weren't in Rome!! Rome makes Paris look like a god-send!!
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
Christian Bale in The Protoss Knight.
More like the dark templar.
Plus, I'm not really surprised that the thief surrended and gave the wallet back that quickly given his nationality.
What. The. Hell. You need to acquire history.
Relax, It's just a joke. I love france, when I go to europe it's the first country I want to go to.
MC is really the Kratoss Protoss, ready to dismember nerds and noob pickpockets like it's no big deal. I'm a bit ashamed that it happened in France though...
Well we'll show him that we are great Starcraft 2 fans also this week end
I don't really know why this is still open.. It's like opening a thread about, say, incontrol eating a donut that gave him food poison.. I don't get what there is to discuss.. except for people bashing france/people praising MC.. Which can go in his fan club if anything..
On October 21 2011 11:52 MonkSEA wrote: I don't really know why this is still open.. It's like opening a thread about, say, incontrol eating a donut that gave him food poison.. I don't get what there is to discuss.. except for people bashing france/people praising MC.. Which can go in his fan club if anything..
On October 21 2011 11:52 MonkSEA wrote: I don't really know why this is still open.. It's like opening a thread about, say, incontrol eating a donut that gave him food poison..
But in MC's case, the story didn't end there. He chased the thief and got the money back, which is the core of this story. No wonder you don't understand this, when you miss the most critical part.
On October 21 2011 08:44 RoyAlex wrote: Fear the Bosstoss!
This needs to be at the fanclub. Such a baller!
bahahaha. great picture. glad he confronted the guy and didn't have to fight him to get his wallet back. He's lucky someone didn't pull a knife on him or anything ridiculous though, it is kinda risky doing that.
He chased down a pickpocket and actually got his wallet back. What a boss. That so rarely ever happens successfully. He even got recognized by a random French fan in the process.
On October 21 2011 10:08 RaiKageRyu wrote: I guess he models his presidency after Teddy Roosevelt.
Irony. Teddy Roosevelt is the President Koreans generally hate the most. Why? Because he legitimatized Japan's occupation of Korea. (He handed Korea and Korean Manchuria over to Japan on a silver platter) Then he got a Nobel Peace Prize for it. TBH... before the Korean War, Koreans really, REALLY fucking hated Americans. For good reason.
lucky he went up against a bronze noob. chasing after a guy is dangerous b/c for all you know, you could get stabbed. prevention is key and hopefully they learned that. tourists in foreign countries should always carry something like this and wear it under their clothes
When that thief turned out and saw MC going "YOU WANNA FIGHT ME?" in korean, I bet what his eyes saw in the backgroud behind MC was a fleet of carriers, voidrays and a gateway army charging towards him to join the fight and made him piss his pants. He picked the wrong person to pickpocket.
Funny thought though...imaging MC grabbing the french guy and going "SA OOL REH? JOO GOOL REH??"
it's a major bummer for MC. I'm glad he was able to...punch the guy in the face and get his wallet back??
But that's one thing that i was always aware of while traveling through france & italy. And frankly any place that has a lot of touristy spots (but esp. those since it's difficult to get more touristy than right below the Eiffel tower or the Colosseum). You've got to be aware of people trying to rob you blind.
On October 21 2011 10:20 FuRRyChoBo wrote: This Winter, Gerard Butler stars in Min Chul: Chrono Boost.
The Last Bonjwa starring Tom Cruise
Rofl. Last Samurai xD well played!
The Korean Supremacy starring Matt Damon.
But in all seriousness, props to MC. Kind of an interesting story, though I'm not entirely surprised that he'd be the kind of guy to chase a pickpocket down!
Christian Bale in The Protoss Knight.
More like the dark templar.
Plus, I'm not really surprised that the thief surrended and gave the wallet back that quickly given his nationality.
What. The. Hell. You need to acquire history.
You angry. Sad fact is he is right. Good ROFL moment.
Side note though almost any pickpocket who gets caught will give it up because at that point you typically get out of trouble just by giving back the wallet.
I hope this story gets covered by the news, bring some light to Starcraft, and MC being a well mannered man, I'm glad everything is ok. Look out for each other out there!
On October 21 2011 12:43 RumTalk wrote: He's lucky this happened in france.... america or even here if u chase after a pickpocket you are likely to get shot
good thing he is ok, people are crazy these days and something harmful could have happened to him
lol@the America or "even here"
In Jamaica getting shot should be the least of your worries, whats likely to happen to you in that situation in Jamaica, is you will get kidnapped and locked in a box and buried alive
On October 21 2011 12:43 RumTalk wrote: He's lucky this happened in france.... america or even here if u chase after a pickpocket you are likely to get shot
Nah, if he remembered to get armor upgrades he's immune to bullets.
On October 21 2011 12:43 RumTalk wrote: He's lucky this happened in france.... america or even here if u chase after a pickpocket you are likely to get shot
good thing he is ok, people are crazy these days and something harmful could have happened to him
lol@the America or "even here"
In Jamaica getting shot should be the least of your worries, whats likely to happen to you in that situation in Jamaica, is you will get kidnapped and locked in a box and buried alive
Unlikely. MC has to be at least approaching "national treasure" status in Korea. If the Jamaicans try to bury him they'll have hell to pay.
gotta love mc though as soon as he scouted and saw what happened. He charged towards his opponent, blinked right to him, stood tall and colosseus-like, gave him a gravitational beam stare down, bm'ed for a fight and when the culprit gave him his wallet, like the gentleman he is and also knowing that it's a korean vs foreigner, he gg'ed out.
haha, I bet the pickpocket thought this humble looking Korean guy would make an easy target... little did he know he was fucking with a super-star who would chase him down and call his ass out.
the best part about this story is "You wanna fight me?" because I had a couple of Korean friends in high school and they were all super good at Tae Kwon Do and loved to fight other guys, and I can totally visualize how he said it lol.
On October 21 2011 14:00 LighT. wrote: gotta love mc though as soon as he scouted and saw what happened. He charged towards his opponent, blinked right to him, stood tall and colosseus-like, gave him a gravitational beam stare down, bm'ed for a fight and when the culprit gave him his wallet, like the gentleman he is and also knowing that it's a korean vs foreigner, he gg'ed out.
On October 21 2011 12:43 RumTalk wrote: He's lucky this happened in france.... america or even here if u chase after a pickpocket you are likely to get shot
good thing he is ok, people are crazy these days and something harmful could have happened to him
lol@the America or "even here"
In Jamaica getting shot should be the least of your worries, whats likely to happen to you in that situation in Jamaica, is you will get kidnapped and locked in a box and buried alive
Oh. I had watched a film call "buried" This film likes the situation that you said Bury someone and call for money
On October 21 2011 14:13 ThyHate wrote: The sad thing is all those pickpockets in Paris are either from northern Africa or eastern Europe.. Those are not french people..
User was temp banned for this post.
I know he got temp banned but what he said is actually mostly true like 90% of pickpockets do it as a living in paris and come from africa. While i was there i had a few conversations about it and one mother told me she doesnt let her daught my age (17) take the subway because of blacks. I was shocked at her rascism but wasn't sure wether to beleive it or not, but it is true sadly :/.
On October 21 2011 14:13 ThyHate wrote: The sad thing is all those pickpockets in Paris are either from northern Africa or eastern Europe.. Those are not french people..
User was temp banned for this post.
I know he got temp banned but what he said is actually mostly true like 90% of pickpockets do it as a living in paris and come from africa. While i was there i had a few conversations about it and one mother told me she doesnt let her daught my age (17) take the subway because of blacks. I was shocked at her rascism but wasn't sure wether to beleive it or not, but it is true sadly :/.
The actual location you're from is irrelevant as to why they choose that lifestyle. There are far too many factors involved for you to make that claim.
On October 21 2011 14:00 LighT. wrote: gotta love mc though as soon as he scouted and saw what happened. He charged towards his opponent, blinked right to him, stood tall and colosseus-like, gave him a gravitational beam stare down, bm'ed for a fight and when the culprit gave him his wallet, like the gentleman he is and also knowing that it's a korean vs foreigner, he gg'ed out.
winning!
You forgot that MC forcefield the guy, so he couldn't move anywhere but stood there.
On October 21 2011 11:30 LuCkeY wrote: I travel to France quite often on business and the first few times was unfortunate enough to use the public urinals they call transport. I expected it to be like other public systems in the world however I was very surprised at the disgraceful acts of the people travelling, The only thing I can say is at least you weren't in Rome!! Rome makes Paris look like a god-send!!
Hehe, Rome is still harmless compared to Naples/Napoli.
On October 21 2011 11:30 LuCkeY wrote: I travel to France quite often on business and the first few times was unfortunate enough to use the public urinals they call transport. I expected it to be like other public systems in the world however I was very surprised at the disgraceful acts of the people travelling, The only thing I can say is at least you weren't in Rome!! Rome makes Paris look like a god-send!!
Hehe, Rome is still harmless compared to Naples/Napoli.
Awww I wanna go to Paris/Rome/Spain/England and German for once in my life. May be Sweden or Swiss too
I actually experienced the opposite. Originally from France, now in Taiwan, I still don't understand why I can leave stuff unattended in the street and *not* get robbed. Here people will actually run after you to give this wallet you dropped on the ground accidentally...
Damn not to be offensive or anything but is France like the worse European country in terms of thiefs at the airport or what? I get that impression from everyone around me including the media.
On October 21 2011 15:47 Zidane wrote: Damn not to be offensive or anything but is France like the worse European country in terms of thiefs at the airport or what? I get that impression from everyone around me including the media.
ahh cmon guys dont be so 1dimensional. this has nothing to do with France
Mc got robbed because he is fucking Stupid. When you get robbed its always your own fault.
On October 21 2011 14:13 ThyHate wrote: The sad thing is all those pickpockets in Paris are either from northern Africa or eastern Europe.. Those are not french people..
User was temp banned for this post.
I know he got temp banned but what he said is actually mostly true like 90% of pickpockets do it as a living in paris and come from africa. While i was there i had a few conversations about it and one mother told me she doesnt let her daught my age (17) take the subway because of blacks. I was shocked at her rascism but wasn't sure wether to beleive it or not, but it is true sadly :/.
Sad but true, I see them everyday in the metro, i can recognize them almost immediately at first glance. The thing is when they are caught, they are pretending to be 13, but they don't have any ID card to prove it, and our laws forbid us to do anything against <15 i think. They are free 2 hours after getting caught, and they go on rampage again.
well glad he got his wallet back, bloody thief, funny though thats someone noticed and told him who the theif was but didntt ry to intervene before that haha.
On October 21 2011 16:17 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Surely Paris can't be the only place that's a hotspot for pickpockets? Are there other other cautionary tales to be told for other countries?
Every country that is hightly visited by tourist. France, and specialy Paris is the 1st touritic place in the world so the problem is pretty huge here. And Asians are the primary target most of the time.
I'm happy MC got back his wallet and hope he won't get a bad memory of France because of that.
On October 21 2011 16:17 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Surely Paris can't be the only place that's a hotspot for pickpockets? Are there other other cautionary tales to be told for other countries?
Not countries, cities. If it is big and has a lot of tourists, a general rule is to look out for thieves. I have heard several stories about thieves at train stations in Europe. Funnily enough, I have not encountered any thieves myself, and I have lived in Germany and Norway, and traveled around a bit in Europe.
On October 21 2011 15:47 Zidane wrote: Damn not to be offensive or anything but is France like the worse European country in terms of thiefs at the airport or what? I get that impression from everyone around me including the media.
From my expirience italy is way worse, I have been on vacation in france like 10 times now and I never got robbed, nor did anyone that went with me. When I was in italy we had to lock everything at night just to not get robbed, couldn't even leave the window open and it was fucking hot.
On October 21 2011 16:17 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Surely Paris can't be the only place that's a hotspot for pickpockets? Are there other other cautionary tales to be told for other countries?
Every country that is hightly visited by tourist. France, and specialy Paris is the 1st touritic place in the world so the problem is pretty huge here. And Asians are the primary target most of the time.
I'm happy MC got back his wallet and hope he won't get a bad memory of France because of that.
Why do French pick pockets target Asians in particular?
Can't say I'm surprised MC of all the people caught the thief. Huk is a very sneaky mineral thief with his probes, and MC is around him a lot. His PvP instincts just rose up the second he noticed the thief leaving with his minerals.
On October 21 2011 16:17 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Surely Paris can't be the only place that's a hotspot for pickpockets? Are there other other cautionary tales to be told for other countries?
Every country that is hightly visited by tourist. France, and specialy Paris is the 1st touritic place in the world so the problem is pretty huge here. And Asians are the primary target most of the time.
I'm happy MC got back his wallet and hope he won't get a bad memory of France because of that.
Why do French pick pockets target Asians in particular?
I don't know, but I'd imagine they perhaps carry more money in cash with them. Europeans can use credit and bank cards within the EU zone with basically no penalty, and they're easier to extinguish from the non cash Europeans than the Americans I suppose. Also they're perhaps less suspicious and aware of thieves and robbers.
I'm just speculating ofcourse, but that could be it Personally I've travelled a lot in Europe, and never been pick pocketed, held up or anything.
On October 21 2011 16:17 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Surely Paris can't be the only place that's a hotspot for pickpockets? Are there other other cautionary tales to be told for other countries?
Every country that is hightly visited by tourist. France, and specialy Paris is the 1st touritic place in the world so the problem is pretty huge here. And Asians are the primary target most of the time.
I'm happy MC got back his wallet and hope he won't get a bad memory of France because of that.
Why do French pick pockets target Asians in particular?
I don't know, but I'd imagine they perhaps carry more money in cash with them. Europeans can use credit and bank cards within the EU zone with basically no penalty, and they're easier to extinguish from the non cash Europeans than the Americans I suppose. Also they're perhaps less suspicious and aware of thieves and robbers.
I'm just speculating ofcourse, but that could be it Personally I've travelled a lot in Europe, and never been pick pocketed, held up or anything.
Most of the asian tourist are japanese, and the common thief won't be able to see they're not. Those guys carries a lot of money on them + expensive phones or cameras.
As a french guy, I know that when I take touristic metro/train/tram/bus lines (I mean from and to Disneyland, from and to the airports or near the center of Paris, where most of the museum and famous places are), I have to be careful.
Tourists and japanese in particular are not that cautious, and are easy to rob without being noticed, the transports are always full of people and it's easy to disappear in a big crowd. This one was a "chobo" as MC said he got lucky and I'm glad everything went all right.
Hopefully, ESWC and korean pros will be more careful next time. Not letting firsttimer all alone (or without a little briefing and tranport pass) in Paris for instance.
The city is safe, don't get me wrong, but carefree tourist are easy to rob.
that thief choose wrong TARGET Most people wouldn't even chase the thief because of the technique Phantom wallet,which is quite popular nowadays,you wouldn't even notice what happened
On October 21 2011 16:17 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Surely Paris can't be the only place that's a hotspot for pickpockets? Are there other other cautionary tales to be told for other countries?
Every country that is hightly visited by tourist. France, and specialy Paris is the 1st touritic place in the world so the problem is pretty huge here. And Asians are the primary target most of the time.
I'm happy MC got back his wallet and hope he won't get a bad memory of France because of that.
Why do French pick pockets target Asians in particular?
They're less attentive to that kind of thing. They usualy have more money on them. They don't speak french nor english very well.
It's a stéréotype of course but heh.. they stick pretty hard here.
On October 21 2011 14:13 ThyHate wrote: The sad thing is all those pickpockets in Paris are either from northern Africa or eastern Europe.. Those are not french people..
User was temp banned for this post.
I know he got temp banned but what he said is actually mostly true like 90% of pickpockets do it as a living in paris and come from africa. While i was there i had a few conversations about it and one mother told me she doesnt let her daught my age (17) take the subway because of blacks. I was shocked at her rascism but wasn't sure wether to beleive it or not, but it is true sadly :/.
The actual location you're from is irrelevant as to why they choose that lifestyle. There are far too many factors involved for you to make that claim.
Haha, and the part about the girl not letting her daughter to take the subway is ridiculous. I'm not sure where the mother come from, but she is ignorant. I know some girls who fear to get out at some point,but most of the time they are rich girls who know nothing about the real world (some time ago, I had to help a girl to get to her house because it was too late for her (8 pm....) and the girl told me that she was really surprised watching couple kiss themselves in the subway. Sure : in some places, you gotta take care. Some of my friend got stabbed for nothing, and at some moment of the year you can easily get into a fight with some random frustrated guy full of alcohol. But that's late in the night, in few little part of the city and there are no subway at this point...
Mad props to him for being able to restrain himself. A lot of people would have knocked that little piece of shit out cold, pure instinct. Good to see he solved it in a decent manner.
I think a legitimately good idea would be to buy another (empty) wallet, put a note in it that says "rofl" and have it sticking out of your back pocket. Fight thievery with trolling.
Wow MC, sorry that happened to you. I was in France and something similar happened to me. France is really dangerous these days as is much of Europe with their huge recession and all. It sucks but that's just the way it is.
Well done MC.. Even he is in an another country he doesn't seem to feel uncomfortable for offending the home people. He is What HE IS.. MC 4 LYFE MUDAFKER!!!
Hahahaha what a bad ass. I love this guy. I can just imagine seeing him snapping out on some random retard on the train and the thief absolutely shitting his pants.
JMC isn't a small dude by any means as far as I could tell.
On October 21 2011 11:30 LuCkeY wrote: I travel to France quite often on business and the first few times was unfortunate enough to use the public urinals they call transport. I expected it to be like other public systems in the world however I was very surprised at the disgraceful acts of the people travelling, The only thing I can say is at least you weren't in Rome!! Rome makes Paris look like a god-send!!
Hehe, Rome is still harmless compared to Naples/Napoli.
Awww I wanna go to Paris/Rome/Spain/England and German for once in my life. May be Sweden or Swiss too
One persons experience is hardly indicative from what you can expect. I actually felt the subway in Paris to be charming with the music being played (although the people weren't as friendly as in Lyon or other major French cities) and had no problems with Rome either. I stayed a month in both cities so while I don't travel there often I did get to know the cities quite well. Also Paris may be too big to walk around, but they have a wonderful bike system you can use and Rome is small enough you can just walk around to most places (of course this depends on the place you're staying).
Now that I think about it. What surprised me most about Rome is rather how safe it all felt, I walked around the city at absolutely ridiculous hours. Hours at which I should be looking over my shoulder in my own city (Rotterdam) and yet nothing felt threatening or dangerous.
Every european knows there is a good chance of getting robbed in southern europe if you dont watch out, but if you know what you're doing, you'll be fine... So go ahead and travel, even MC managed fine!
Noob thief indeed. Honestly for all the people worrying about a knife, it'd be really stupid to start a confrontation on a train with that, there's probably lots of people around. It's a good timing counter!
Unfortunately, there'll always be shit like this wherever you are in the world, but at least this is one case where everything worked out alright. I hope that that thief decides to call it quits.
On October 21 2011 20:33 StiX wrote: Awesome story but a bit reckless in my opinion. It could've been a thug pulling a knife instead of a petty thief as well.
On October 21 2011 20:40 iky43210 wrote: moral of the story, don't chase after thief who stole your wallet. who knows what kind of crazy psychopath or desperate people you're dealing with
How is that the moral of the story? If anything it's, don't pick-pocket angry Koreans and try to flee on a train.
On October 21 2011 20:40 iky43210 wrote: moral of the story, don't chase after thief who stole your wallet. who knows what kind of crazy psychopath or desperate people you're dealing with
Actually the moral of this particular story would be quite the opposite of yours. I mean, MC did get his wallet back without much resistance from the thief.
On October 21 2011 20:38 Woizit wrote: Noob thief indeed. Honestly for all the people worrying about a knife, it'd be really stupid to start a confrontation on a train with that, there's probably lots of people around. It's a good timing counter!
On October 21 2011 22:35 Petshop wrote: France is notorious for pickpockets and petty thieves. Well Paris, mostly. Also, not very safe for girls alone at night unfortunately.
You've watched Taken too many times. Stop trying to spread BS please.
On October 21 2011 11:30 LuCkeY wrote: I travel to France quite often on business and the first few times was unfortunate enough to use the public urinals they call transport. I expected it to be like other public systems in the world however I was very surprised at the disgraceful acts of the people travelling, The only thing I can say is at least you weren't in Rome!! Rome makes Paris look like a god-send!!
Hehe, Rome is still harmless compared to Naples/Napoli.
Awww I wanna go to Paris/Rome/Spain/England and German for once in my life. May be Sweden or Swiss too
One persons experience is hardly indicative from what you can expect. I actually felt the subway in Paris to be charming with the music being played (although the people weren't as friendly as in Lyon or other major French cities) and had no problems with Rome either. I stayed a month in both cities so while I don't travel there often I did get to know the cities quite well. Also Paris may be too big to walk around, but they have a wonderful bike system you can use and Rome is small enough you can just walk around to most places (of course this depends on the place you're staying).
Now that I think about it. What surprised me most about Rome is rather how safe it all felt, I walked around the city at absolutely ridiculous hours. Hours at which I should be looking over my shoulder in my own city (Rotterdam) and yet nothing felt threatening or dangerous.
The french subway is a fucking nightmare. Those steel gates crashing together when entering the subway scare the living hell out of me. I feel like I'm about to be smashed into pieces every time they slam together an inch from my face :<
On October 21 2011 22:35 Petshop wrote: France is notorious for pickpockets and petty thieves. Well Paris, mostly. Also, not very safe for girls alone at night unfortunately.
You've watched Taken too many times. Stop trying to spread BS please.
it is quite a well-known issue for paris. personally I went there twice and got some of my money stolen for my first trip.
On October 21 2011 06:51 Yaki wrote: I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
=/ don't worry about it, there's bad people everywhere and I'm actually surprised it happen to him in france...idk i went there twice and lived a bit in the 'poorer' part of montpellier and never even felt threatened. Unlucky I guess.
On October 21 2011 06:51 Yaki wrote: I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
=/ don't worry about it, there's bad people everywhere and I'm actually surprised it happen to him in france...idk i went there twice and lived a bit in the 'poorer' part of montpellier and never even felt threatened. Unlucky I guess.
On October 21 2011 06:51 Yaki wrote: I'm a really sorry for MC and Milkis, in these times I'm really ashamed to be French ... but still happy that'll be able to see them in person at ESWC.
=/ don't worry about it, there's bad people everywhere and I'm actually surprised it happen to him in france...idk i went there twice and lived a bit in the 'poorer' part of montpellier and never even felt threatened. Unlucky I guess.
Glad everything is okay.
Paris is very different of the rest of France, there is more poor people and more temptation ( because of tourists)
A zerg player (Stephano's smurf ?) used his viper to hook MC's wallet, but a couple of forcefield along with zealot charge were enough to take it down. Gratz!
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