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Zpm
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 08:41:09
October 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#261
Looks like nobody at Blizzard has been watching GSL or MLG...
I only play 1v1 on ladder, and whenever I watch tournament streams I rarely see a map I actually have played on.
Blizzard... hint hint?
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
October 20 2011 08:43 GMT
#262
I mean really, I am actually getting quite frustrated with how they are handling this game. I never played SCBW before SC2 came out, so I can't really say how that experience was, but I played WoW since 2005 and they never pulled this type of shit where they would not update the game and change things that were obviously bad for pretty much the majority of players. I don't think saying they don't want to have maps that are good for multiple bases because of the casual population that plays this game are not competitive and therefore do not want good maps is an actual reason for not having these maps implemented (that probably sounded bad but I'm tired and fuck it). If more and more people (like me) who play this game casually aren't even enjoying it because of the fucked maps, then what the hell are they actually trying to do? The game isn't enjoyable when I see tal'darim and say "oh, well, I guess I have to 4 gate now since it's PvP"

Like really what the hell?
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 20 2011 08:47 GMT
#263
meh
get rid of Abyssal Caverns, and Searing Crater at least :/
Tausken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
October 20 2011 08:50 GMT
#264
This is really a really sad move by Blizzard. There are so much better maps that could be cycled out. Hopefully they will at least see this community reaction and grab some GSL maps or ICcup maps or something....
Peace Through Power
YehOfCourseImOP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom23 Posts
October 20 2011 09:00 GMT
#265
Having read through the comments I think a lot of people just like moaning :p

The fact they aren't adding new maps is probably because the season is so short, which might I add, everyone complained about.

As for the maps being "bad", they are all equally balanced because they are symetrical in one way or another which is the main thing a map needs to be. (especially if youve ever played AoM/AoE, and the hunts are just unfair.)

People asking why we need new 2v2 maps.. well, believe it or not people do play team games as well.

The fact that the ladder locks are apparently for 2 weeks of the 2 month season doesnt matter either cause MMR will still go up during ladder lock (?) Just cause your league says your are gold doesn't mean you are.

The PvP problem on tal'darim can maybe be fixed by going blink, not sure since last patch though ^^

Only problems I can see with the maps are the Random Wall at the natural on Searing Crater, and the Chasm in the natural of Backwater Gulch. They just seem out of place to me.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 20 2011 09:00 GMT
#266
Blizzard are a joke, no wonder peole stop playing on battle.net after a while as they start getting lazy the further and further into the game..... even if they added more GSL or MLG maps...
Live and Let Die!
TENTHST
Profile Joined December 2010
United States204 Posts
October 20 2011 09:03 GMT
#267
Lol - probably one of the most lopsided polls I've seen on TL....


Way to fuck up another season of laddering Blizzard. As if your player base wasn't small enough.
Snusdosa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 20 2011 09:05 GMT
#268
On October 20 2011 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
meh
get rid of Abyssal Caverns, and Searing Crater at least :/


Get rid off:

Abyssal Caverns
Searing Crater
Backwater Gulch
Nerazim Crypt
Xel'Naga Caverns
Typhoon Peaks

Give us:

Metalopolis
Daybreak
Dual Sight

And remove close positions
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 09:06:11
October 20 2011 09:05 GMT
#269
Browder: "Well fuck, team. All of our new maps are 10x less popular than the old ones still in the pool. We just keep changing the new maps each round and we're starting to look stupid. What do we do?

Intern: "Well, sir, the map pool stagnates even if we change things, right? I mean, we've kept the same staples since release. What if we just... don't change anything?"

Browder: "By god, that's genius! We can save money and our balance guy's time and all we have to do is - stop doing things! Get to it! Welcome to the eSports division, kid!"
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
October 20 2011 09:08 GMT
#270
I was looking forward to new maps :-/
Dont fuck up, dont fuck yourself
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 20 2011 09:08 GMT
#271
On October 20 2011 10:43 Cosmology wrote:
This is such a shit map pool LOL, where is Terminus? Crevasse?


Said the zerg, lol... Sure the GSL maps are designed to award macro - but the blizzard maps are a fine combo of macroawarding - yet rushable maps.

I don't want crevasse in the pool. I really don't
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
October 20 2011 09:10 GMT
#272
I say that the worst job Blizz is doing, is on the map pool. Some retard over there makes complete shit ass maps and we all hate them. Meanwhile we see the coolest maps on MLG, GSL, IPL, etc. etc.

We want to play the maps we see! How hard is that for Blizzard to understand??

Please, make a voting system where we can vote for the new mappool or something. Let the community handle this, the community OWNS Blizzard at making quality, fun, maps yet they are too stubborn/stupid (pick one/both) to acknowledge that fact.

Sigh.. guess that's another season of playing only a few games on ladder.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 20 2011 09:10 GMT
#273
I would cry in joy if blizzard one day just decided to use GSL maps and only change them out when they did. That would be amazing but alas those days will never come :/.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
October 20 2011 09:13 GMT
#274
those were two of the better 2v2 maps. get rid of the vagina map IMO
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
October 20 2011 09:15 GMT
#275
Alright. Is it really too much to fucking ask to add pro-tested and balanced maps to the pool?

GSL Daybreak.
iCCup Testbug (iffy)
Revamped Bel'Shir Beach.
Xel'Naga Fortress.

............ Jesus christ.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Keira.
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany5 Posts
October 20 2011 09:16 GMT
#276
DAMN Blizzard! Just screw your "We only use maps made by ourself..." shit and add Termninus/Daybreak to the Ladder and remove the "more rocks than expansions"-maps.
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
October 20 2011 09:16 GMT
#277
On October 20 2011 18:05 Snusdosa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
meh
get rid of Abyssal Caverns, and Searing Crater at least :/


Get rid off:

Abyssal Caverns
Searing Crater
Backwater Gulch
Nerazim Crypt
Xel'Naga Caverns
Typhoon Peaks

Give us:

Metalopolis
Daybreak
Dual Sight

And remove close positions


This exactly. And maybe a couple of other maps, like Bel'shir (the revied version). And there are so many other good maps out there, for example from Iccup.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
October 20 2011 09:17 GMT
#278
I truly don't understand blizzard refusing to use GSL maps and continue forcing their own terrible ladder maps.

SoulScream
Profile Joined June 2010
Bulgaria44 Posts
October 20 2011 09:19 GMT
#279
I just want fix on the close position of Shattered Temple. It will be enough for me
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
October 20 2011 09:23 GMT
#280
On October 20 2011 18:19 SoulScream wrote:
I just want fix on the close position of Shattered Temple. It will be enough for me

Why? because zerg can't FE? Just adapt. I'm finding one base play in close shattered to be unexpected by all inners and teching timings.
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
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