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Season 4 1v1 Map Pool Unchanged

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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 01:43:24
October 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#1
The transition between ladder seasons is generally a time when we take the opportunity to make adjustments to the ladder map pool. In Season 4, the 1v1 pool will remain unchanged, but we will be removing the following maps from the 2v2 map pool:

(4)Khaydarin Depths
(8)Tempest

They will be replaced with the following maps:

(4)Lunar Colony V
(8)Magma Core

We have chosen to remove Khaydarin Depths and Tempest from the 2v2 ladder pool because expanding can be a challenge for certain team compositions on these maps, and they aren’t as balanced as we would prefer for other team compositions. We also wanted to focus on maps that start 2v2 teammates closer together at the beginning of a match. Lunar Colony V and Magma Core are maps that should address these issues.


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Personally I'm pretty against this, what happened to keeping the map pool fresh and exciting? Or having a macro map/rush map/middle map for each season?

There seems to be almost universal hate for the new ladder maps too (except antiga), plus there are still statistical imbalances for a bunch of the other maps.

At the very least I would have liked to have seen a GSL map or 2 make its way in...

Poll: Do you want to see new ladder maps in Season 4?

Yes, I want to see new ladder maps each season replace old/imbalanced ones! (1574)
 
96%

No, the map pool is fine for another season. (66)
 
4%

1640 total votes

Your vote: Do you want to see new ladder maps in Season 4?

(Vote): Yes, I want to see new ladder maps each season replace old/imbalanced ones!
(Vote): No, the map pool is fine for another season.



KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#2
sigh.
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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
October 20 2011 01:32 GMT
#3
I don't really care since this was a shorter season, but hopefully they actually do use the community maps like they are supposedly planning to do with that TL map making contest.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
October 20 2011 01:32 GMT
#4
thats some depressing news
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
SourceOdin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
October 20 2011 01:34 GMT
#5
If there's no changes in the map pool, what's the point of having shorter seasons? *sigh*
MarineKingPrime | ManZenith | Naniwa | IMFirst | TSLHyun
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 01:45:05
October 20 2011 01:35 GMT
#6
seems like every post in the thread is disappointed ... I guess all we can do is to ask Blizz to reconsider in the bnet thread

edit: maybe we need a hero at blizzcon to do something godlike like this guy and save the ladder

Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 20 2011 01:35 GMT
#7
Well at least they got rid of those two craptastic 2v2 maps. Anyone got any pics of the new ones?

Really dissapointed that the 1vs1 maps are staying though.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
October 20 2011 01:36 GMT
#8
I'd imagine it hasn't been long enough and the stats for the existing maps must be fairly unsettled, so they need more time before changing them. Of course, we have no problem telling that these maps are terrible but Blizzard has to use their special tools.
all's fair in love and melodies
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 20 2011 01:36 GMT
#9
xel naga, abyssal and typhon out sometime plzzzzz. I've also played on nerazim crypt and searing crater once each lmao
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TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
October 20 2011 01:36 GMT
#10
We're going to end up making our own ladders like back in BW, cuz blizz will eventually stop paying attention or caring about it. The fact that they still have bad maps on the ladder, they dont make new GOOD maps to replace them its a huge sign of that, they dont even replace them for blizzcon .
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 20 2011 01:36 GMT
#11
.... so... what's the point? I thought the whole point to having these "new/updated" seasons was so they could make changes like map pool more frequently...
drop271
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand286 Posts
October 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#12
Any links to the new 2v2 maps?
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
October 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#13
i swear blizz has like no staff working on SC2...

sadddddd
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
October 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#14
Khaydarin depths was a joke of a map. Whoever made that map must have been very drunk and confused. Not only is expanding to the natural near impossible (unless you break the gold to take it), your logical third is like half a screen away from their logical third.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 01:39:36
October 20 2011 01:39 GMT
#15
glad to see blizzard understood the current map pool was perfect and didn't need any change, a real model of balance

...

sigh
MMello
Profile Joined October 2010
279 Posts
October 20 2011 01:39 GMT
#16
Yeah this is retarded... There must be a way for the community to be heard by blizzard.. they need to make some changes!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
October 20 2011 01:39 GMT
#17
Good thing blizzard is on top of things...
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 20 2011 01:40 GMT
#18
WHAT!!! Blizzard is making a huge mistake here, I think the 1v1 maps are pretty boring that we have right now. I want something fresh!
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Nortac
Profile Joined April 2011
United States375 Posts
October 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#19
If they're to lazy to make their own maps, why dont they just take some of the great community maps out there...I dont understand whats so hard about that.
Inside.Out
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada569 Posts
October 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#20
goddammit all the blizz 1v1 maps suck. we need a change
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