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FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
October 20 2011 06:01 GMT
#221
Any time any pro has been asked about this topic they all say the maps need to be changed. Seriously, wtf is Blizzard thinking doing this kinda stuff and constantly showing us they don't pay enough attention to what the sc2 pros think???
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
October 20 2011 06:01 GMT
#222
I played a TvZ on close position Shattered Temple and I just sieged up at his nat and he was dead. Granted he wasn't that good but I don't see him breaking out of that position even if he was a league above me.

The map itself, I like. Close positions, however, make for such awkward games. I don't mind having rush maps, but ambiguous maps that you only 1/3 want to veto are just unpleasant.
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
October 20 2011 06:03 GMT
#223
On October 20 2011 15:01 Mobius_1 wrote:
I played a TvZ on close position Shattered Temple and I just sieged up at his nat and he was dead. Granted he wasn't that good but I don't see him breaking out of that position even if he was a league above me.

The map itself, I like. Close positions, however, make for such awkward games. I don't mind having rush maps, but ambiguous maps that you only 1/3 want to veto are just unpleasant.


I agree with you but i'd rather play steppes of war than close positions shattered temple. Because at least you know its going to be a short distance to the other persons base and there is most likely going to be a rush. With close positions on a map it's just stupid. The map could be a very good map close air / cross positions but close positions its bad.
Maruprime.
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
October 20 2011 06:03 GMT
#224
On October 20 2011 10:35 ToguRo wrote:
seems like every post in the thread is disappointed ... I guess all we can do is to ask Blizz to reconsider in the bnet thread

edit: maybe we need a hero at blizzcon to do something godlike like this guy and save the ladder



What a boss!
mute20
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada175 Posts
October 20 2011 06:03 GMT
#225
In response from the players we have removed all cross map spawns and every map will now be close spawns. Also we have decided to remove Tal'Darim Altar alter as this made bronze league players have to macro.

Seriously though they talk big on e-sports, but they take steps to make ladder a joke. No pro trains mostly on ladder unless they have to.
Phenrock
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
October 20 2011 06:35 GMT
#226
The point for shorter seasons I thought was to keep it fresh with new maps. I don't understand Blizzard, how does a new season with the exact same map pool increase the number of players?
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
October 20 2011 06:35 GMT
#227
On October 20 2011 15:03 Remfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 10:35 ToguRo wrote:
seems like every post in the thread is disappointed ... I guess all we can do is to ask Blizz to reconsider in the bnet thread

edit: maybe we need a hero at blizzcon to do something godlike like this guy and save the ladder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwyMB19q7ms


What a boss!


Blizzard liked him too!

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http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/11/red-shirt-guy-immortalized-as-wildhammer-fact-checker
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 20 2011 06:37 GMT
#228
Please, as if newly released blizzard maps are any good to begin with. I'm just glad they aren't shitting up the map pool even more.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 20 2011 06:37 GMT
#229
They need to remove close positions shattered.
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arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
October 20 2011 06:43 GMT
#230
I'm pretty much satisfied with the current map pool. I got 3 vetos for the maps I don't like or the ones whose aren't be played in the tournaments. All good, Blizzard. I like it
750/750 emotions fully stacked
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 20 2011 06:48 GMT
#231
On October 20 2011 15:35 dala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 15:03 Remfire wrote:
On October 20 2011 10:35 ToguRo wrote:
seems like every post in the thread is disappointed ... I guess all we can do is to ask Blizz to reconsider in the bnet thread

edit: maybe we need a hero at blizzcon to do something godlike like this guy and save the ladder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwyMB19q7ms


What a boss!


Blizzard liked him too!

[image loading]

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/11/red-shirt-guy-immortalized-as-wildhammer-fact-checker


That guy is a hero!

He deserved to get immortalized!

So fun to see him pwn the devs =)
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
October 20 2011 06:50 GMT
#232
Why does Blizzard always decide to do the most retarded thing possible at the time?
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 20 2011 06:54 GMT
#233
I thought blizzard had a map competition to update the pool for season 4. What ever happened to that?
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 20 2011 06:54 GMT
#234
I imagine people would whine about the new map-pool too, but it would probably be deserved, considering it seems they make consistently mediocre/bad maps and just say "Oh those are ladder maps, not intended for tournaments!" then they use one of them in their Blizzcon tourney >,<

Uh, Anyway, guess this is kind of bad. I'd rather have a fresh map-pool every season too.
memes are a dish best served dank
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
October 20 2011 06:59 GMT
#235
I wouldn't be so disappointed if the maps were actually good ones. As it is right now, most of the maps is rather horrible. It would be better if they just used GSL/ICCup maps, they have the quality. Blizzard is shitty.
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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 07:09:52
October 20 2011 07:09 GMT
#236
Meh, it's like in WoW: Cataclysm where Blizzard has just gotten lazy and know people will buy their product regardless of effort put in. Maybe it's Activision pulling the reigns (after all, they work together and share the same philosophies it looks like).

The lack of support isn't surprising at all. It's not just Blizzard either, Bioware has also begun to degrade. ID has been going downhill for a long time now. PC devs aside from Valve (who hasn't put out that much either this generation but still quality stuff) have been going downhill this gen. Blizzard feels like just another average developer honestly. You just don't get the same amount of care or content in the games that you used to. WoW is marketed to every possible thing that can breathe now and SC2 isn't being worked on because they want to rush an expansion out as quickly as possible to gain sales....as quickly as possible. Guitar hero/CoD style.

Not a fan of Blizzard anymore . That's how I've felt since WoTLK.
Hark!
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
October 20 2011 07:22 GMT
#237
For their excuse Blizzard is running full steam ahead with HotS nearing completion, Diablo 3 in beta and a WoW expansion that needs to save that game from the **** that was Cataclysm plus Titan and Blizzcon.

I know i know, excuses, but you cant deny that this is their biggest year in that they will release 2 expansions and 1 new game (Diablo 3).

I rather they focus on HotS instead of the current game, balance or maps
★ Top Gun ★
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
October 20 2011 07:25 GMT
#238
wow WHO GIVES A FUCK about 2v2 maps. shit is all 1 base cheese for like 20 minutes anyways.
Blizzard, just give those guys zero clutter nr20 for the map pool. problem solved. now go incorporate already existing GSL maps plz.
Monkeyballs25
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
October 20 2011 07:33 GMT
#239
Oh that's a shame, I was hoping they'd replace one of the 3 maps I had on my veto list.
XNC, Searing Crater and Backwater Gulch.
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 07:41:16
October 20 2011 07:38 GMT
#240
On October 20 2011 10:48 Holcan wrote:
As long as the maps with statistical imbalance are still up voted, and maps that are of higher quality but the player may not like are down voted, blizzard will never think the maps suck just because the competitive market complains.

There are plenty of noobs out there who don't down vote these maps -> thats the source of the problem, don't blame blizzard, blame the ignorance of the common sc2 player.

The competitive scene already uses different maps, and the 99% of ladder is made of "common sc2 players" which are in return who buy the game and keep blizzard making profit so Blizzard won't change maps just to please the 1% of hardcore competitive amateur gamers in b.net

I'm happy with the current maps, as zerg i have veto on searing, backwater and thypoon peaks, just because I don't like playing on them (too many chokes) but Nerazim and abyssal are good for me.

On October 20 2011 16:09 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Meh, it's like in WoW: Cataclysm where Blizzard has just gotten lazy and know people will buy their product regardless of effort put in. Maybe it's Activision pulling the reigns (after all, they work together and share the same philosophies it looks like).

The lack of support isn't surprising at all. It's not just Blizzard either, Bioware has also begun to degrade. ID has been going downhill for a long time now. PC devs aside from Valve (who hasn't put out that much either this generation but still quality stuff) have been going downhill this gen. Blizzard feels like just another average developer honestly. You just don't get the same amount of care or content in the games that you used to. WoW is marketed to every possible thing that can breathe now and SC2 isn't being worked on because they want to rush an expansion out as quickly as possible to gain sales....as quickly as possible. Guitar hero/CoD style.

Not a fan of Blizzard anymore . That's how I've felt since WoTLK.


Relic anyone? their WH40k games are pretty awesome.
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