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Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 12 2011 13:36 GMT
#1681
Need new Zerg unit?
(V) (;,,;) (V)
Why not Zoidberg?
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
Bzzd
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil6 Posts
October 12 2011 13:48 GMT
#1682
What role do you think it will fulfill on the battlefield?

A unit that will reaches 2 or 3 years late.

HotS 2011? early 2012?
ha ha ha
BR
wankey
Profile Joined May 2010
98 Posts
October 12 2011 14:37 GMT
#1683
I really don't understand blizzard nowadays. The launched Starcraft BW in under 7 months with a SLEW of fixes. HOTS is taking nearly a year +, we'll see what kind of changes they do to the multiplayer.
AnyLoss
Profile Joined June 2011
29 Posts
October 12 2011 14:38 GMT
#1684
Is it possible that this could replace the hydralisk ( i mean completely as in no more hydralisk in MP) as a more viable AA option for zerg?
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
October 12 2011 14:39 GMT
#1685
On October 12 2011 22:36 Roynalf wrote:
Need new Zerg unit?
(V) (;,,;) (V)
Why not Zoidberg?


woopwoopwoopwoop
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 12 2011 14:44 GMT
#1686
They will never replace the hydralisk. It is way too much of an iconic unit.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
October 12 2011 15:01 GMT
#1687
On October 12 2011 23:44 dignity wrote:
They will never replace the hydralisk. It is way too much of an iconic unit.

Hydralisk can be still in the game, but they can add mutation from hydralisk.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
October 12 2011 15:05 GMT
#1688
On October 12 2011 23:38 AnyLoss wrote:
Is it possible that this could replace the hydralisk ( i mean completely as in no more hydralisk in MP) as a more viable AA option for zerg?

It can't, looks closer to morph from hydralisk and roach.
SiffStarcraft
Profile Joined May 2011
United States45 Posts
October 12 2011 15:14 GMT
#1689
Legs look roachy... head looks hydralisky.... it'll probably be named something cool like "Zerg Underminer" or "Zerg Roachalisk"
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:33:16
October 12 2011 15:29 GMT
#1690
On October 12 2011 23:44 dignity wrote:
They will never replace the hydralisk. It is way too much of an iconic unit.

What units aren't iconic? You'll have to keep some iconic Brood War units for Starcraft II, then come Starcraft III you'll add some newly iconic units of the second installment, leaving you with just one unique unit per version of the game. A lot of players don't like hydralisks, because they are just a ranged unit without interesting mechanics. If not for its iconic factor, Blizzard could replace it with something cooler, but I guess that'd be bad.

What's the point in even spending five years on a sequel to Brood War if we intend to simply keep all the core units of that game? I know Blizzard mostly did, but that's a mistake in my opinion. Replacing units like the hydralisk and the mutalisk with more engaging alternatives could make the game more fun to play and to watch, for only the cost of having to get used to something new.

On October 13 2011 00:05 Existor wrote:
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On October 12 2011 23:38 AnyLoss wrote:
Is it possible that this could replace the hydralisk ( i mean completely as in no more hydralisk in MP) as a more viable AA option for zerg?

It can't, looks closer to morph from hydralisk and roach.

It can be an out-of-game mutation. The zerg race has advanced in between games and now does not need hydralisks any longer, having created superior alternative breeds.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:33:19
October 12 2011 15:32 GMT
#1691

On October 12 2011 23:44 dignity wrote:
They will never replace the hydralisk. It is way too much of an iconic unit.



Im pretty sure the lurker and reaver were bother iconic but they are no longer in the game

+ Show Spoiler +
for now anyways
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
October 12 2011 16:45 GMT
#1692
On October 13 2011 00:32 Cain0 wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:44 dignity wrote:
They will never replace the hydralisk. It is way too much of an iconic unit.



Im pretty sure the lurker and reaver were bother iconic but they are no longer in the game

+ Show Spoiler +
for now anyways


If we're going to talk about iconic, let's take sharp notice to the fact that out of all three races the zerg resembles the 'old' swarm the most. If any of the old swarm units are outdated it would be the ultralisk. It's funny that no one (as far as I read) suggested this unit that might mutate from a Hydralisk is going to replace the ultralisk.
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 16:47:33
October 12 2011 16:46 GMT
#1693
As we seen with Sc2, many units or their abilities are just from sc1 but given to different units or races.

This unit seems to be that it will be a sc2 version of reaver given to zerg. It will be slow, have AoE and you will need to build its ammo. Maybe it will need to burrow before firing or burrow will be its special ability (like all ground zerg units have).

It is kind of sad Blizzard is so without new ideas.

EDIT: If I am right, I am sure many toss will rage and others will switch to Zerg :D
Aborash
Profile Joined June 2009
65 Posts
October 12 2011 17:00 GMT
#1694
Not sure if this means something:

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/videos/?v=sc2:hots-gameplay

0:29

[image loading]


Notice the Green Hole above the head of the splitterling. He also got 4 legs (First I thought was a roach evolution)

[image loading]

The "evolve roach" upgrade, and the "Bile Ducts" makes me doubt but the number of legs doesnt make sense.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 12 2011 18:20 GMT
#1695
I really doubt that this unit will either replace the ultra or be melee itself.
Melee is already rather supplyefficient (so it behaves well around max), and all of zergs T3 tech is on Melee upgrades (Broodlords, Cracklings, Ultralisks).
Zerg range however has no T3 unit at all and behaves extremly poorly when maxed, so it NEEDS another unit that is supplyefficient, else range stays a dead Tech in the lategame as 200supply range gets crushed by P/T.
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
October 12 2011 18:28 GMT
#1696
It might be the lurker just they made it not look so much like it since it'd be too obvious. They said that these pictures may or may not change anyway
Root4Root
kevinmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
October 12 2011 18:38 GMT
#1697
On October 12 2011 19:11 HaruRH wrote:
Come on blizzard, I know your plans!

[image loading]

LOL perfect matches
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
October 12 2011 18:41 GMT
#1698
On October 13 2011 03:38 kevinmon wrote:
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On October 12 2011 19:11 HaruRH wrote:
Come on blizzard, I know your plans!

[image loading]

LOL perfect matches


OMG LOL!!! It can;t be unseen O.O
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
October 12 2011 19:04 GMT
#1699
Guys, the lurker model is already in the game and it's totally different. And Blizzard would never release a silhoutte of a unit seen in the HOTS preview (including the evolved lings, banes, roaches...).

Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 19:12:26
October 12 2011 19:10 GMT
#1700
On October 13 2011 01:45 Callynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 00:32 Cain0 wrote:

On October 12 2011 23:44 dignity wrote:
They will never replace the hydralisk. It is way too much of an iconic unit.



Im pretty sure the lurker and reaver were bother iconic but they are no longer in the game

+ Show Spoiler +
for now anyways


If we're going to talk about iconic, let's take sharp notice to the fact that out of all three races the zerg resembles the 'old' swarm the most. If any of the old swarm units are outdated it would be the ultralisk. It's funny that no one (as far as I read) suggested this unit that might mutate from a Hydralisk is going to replace the ultralisk.



err. Hydralisk should have been a basic zerg unit. Instead we got roach and that got nerfed and now it sux. It did not get outdated because it was shit. It got outdated because blizzard designed it to be shitty.
"Mudkip"
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