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PrideNeverDie
Profile Joined November 2010
United States319 Posts
October 07 2011 03:58 GMT
#2041
it says a lot when the first unit preview for the zerg-based expansion is a terran unit. it really shows the difference of time and effort that blizzard puts into terran compared to zerg and protoss.
If you want it bad enough you will find a way; If you don't, you will find an excuse
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 07 2011 03:59 GMT
#2042
It's obviously a mech healer, mark mah words!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
koslain
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
October 07 2011 04:00 GMT
#2043
Looks kinda like...a marauder with mario sunshine backpack and shields. OH IT'S A WATER BAT!
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 07 2011 04:00 GMT
#2044
On October 07 2011 08:49 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 08:34 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On October 07 2011 08:30 Ronald_McD wrote:
I really don't think Terran needs more units... Looks cool, though.

Units are being removed and added in HOTS. Not just added.


Really? Source? And any words about what's being removed? *fingers crossed for marauders*


As a terran, its not so much that I want marauders to be removed, but nerfed. Its pretty redicoulus that mass marauder can just 1a into 10 tanks and come out ahead. Also I think Conc is a EZ mode ability. Terran doesn't really need conc. It just makes TvP a hell of alot easier. But its lacking can be overcomed with micro.

Its pretty stupid how fast 4 stim marauders take out a base.
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klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
October 07 2011 04:07 GMT
#2045
clearly a water bat.

let's hope tasteless gets some compensation.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 07 2011 04:12 GMT
#2046
On October 07 2011 12:58 PrideNeverDie wrote:
it says a lot when the first unit preview for the zerg-based expansion is a terran unit. it really shows the difference of time and effort that blizzard puts into terran compared to zerg and protoss.

Hey look, it's this post again.
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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 07 2011 04:15 GMT
#2047
On October 07 2011 08:49 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 08:34 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On October 07 2011 08:30 Ronald_McD wrote:
I really don't think Terran needs more units... Looks cool, though.

Units are being removed and added in HOTS. Not just added.


Really? Source? And any words about what's being removed? *fingers crossed for marauders*

Hey baby, keep your fingers crossed. I don't like those myrouters either .
Here's something I digged up.

GSA: The official SC2 forums stated that there will be a Heart of the Swarm multiplayer beta coming out. What else can you add on that Wings of Liberty's multiplayer has covered last year?

DB: Well, it's tough. The Terrans have enough stuff already, thus it becomes a guessing game to know what to do for them. We have to be careful about what new units we can add to the game. At the end of the day, we still have to add in cool s***. [Players] are giving us their money; we have to give them something cool.

There are some easy things we can do and there are some hard things. If we study the game, for example, you would say that the corruptor is lame. Don't get us wrong; they're useful. If there are a lot of colossi, you need corruptors. If there are dark templars, you need overseers. They have a battle function for a situation, but what new battle strategies and tactics do they add in the game? Compare the two to the mutalisks; a player can raid, harass. They can get board control; they can decimate opponents without antiair. Party, right? Having those guys around changes the match. Corruptors? Meh. You build colossi, I build corruptors; end of story.

There are some units we can upgrade wholesale or remove and replace with something better. That's one easy way to give better gameplay without giving so many options you don't know what's going on while also not compromising balance. There may be other places we can legitimately add. For instance, the Protoss don't really have a great way to raid. To a point; they can kind of raid with Phoenixes with anti-gravs and they can cheese with void rays, but that's not really fun. But we can add in a legitimate Protoss raider that gives a player new strategies.

There are a few places (not very many) where we can do new roles for races that are missing roles. There are definitely units that can die in the fire so that we can replace them with something cool. We're looking to upgrade some units and add a few, but we need to keep the unit list down because we don't know how big it's going to be [at this point in time].

GSA: How about applying the expansion concept of Brood Wars in terms of multiplayer?

DB: In that expansion, we added two or three per race. I don't know what we'll do ultimately. We may add one per race plus tweaks, or we may do two on some, maybe three. Not all races will be given equal treatment; the Terrans are really, really good and it's really hard to do more with them. While the other races currently have an equal opportunity to beat them (except for Korean Grandmasters), Terrans are still more flexible and we don't want to add that.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6325853/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm-qanda-with-dustin-browder
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
October 07 2011 04:18 GMT
#2048
Wait I got it, it's an upgraded viking; optional upgrade for the viking that causes it to lose it's flight mode, in return for increased health and armor (hence the shields), increased firepower (the cannon on its head), and wheels for increased mobility (think VOTOMS).

+ Show Spoiler +
Or perhaps blizzard has no idea what this unit is, and they are skimming this thread trying to steal one. Sneaky
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Werk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States294 Posts
October 07 2011 04:38 GMT
#2049
On October 07 2011 13:18 Amlitzer wrote:
Wait I got it, it's an upgraded viking; optional upgrade for the viking that causes it to lose it's flight mode, in return for increased health and armor (hence the shields), increased firepower (the cannon on its head), and wheels for increased mobility (think VOTOMS).

+ Show Spoiler +
Or perhaps blizzard has no idea what this unit is, and they are skimming this thread trying to steal one. Sneaky


your quote.... defiantly what blizz is doing..sneaky sneaky...let the PLAYERS make the game
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Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
October 07 2011 04:50 GMT
#2050
On October 07 2011 13:38 Werk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 13:18 Amlitzer wrote:
Wait I got it, it's an upgraded viking; optional upgrade for the viking that causes it to lose it's flight mode, in return for increased health and armor (hence the shields), increased firepower (the cannon on its head), and wheels for increased mobility (think VOTOMS).

+ Show Spoiler +
Or perhaps blizzard has no idea what this unit is, and they are skimming this thread trying to steal one. Sneaky


your quote.... defiantly what blizz is doing..sneaky sneaky...let the PLAYERS make the game

To be fair, blizzard did it all the time with WoW.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
October 07 2011 05:28 GMT
#2051
[image loading]

Here it is

(source: http://us.starcraft2.com/features/terran/taurenmarine.xml)
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pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
October 07 2011 05:30 GMT
#2052
On October 06 2011 18:39 Pwnographics wrote:
To be honest, I'd be very disappointed it was another transforming unit.

I want Terran - not transformers. The viking is enough as it is, it's one of the most boring units in the game.


It's not the viking's fault though. Blame goes to the collossus.
Kill the Deathball
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
October 07 2011 05:42 GMT
#2053
On October 07 2011 14:28 ulan-bat wrote:
[image loading]

Here it is

(source: http://us.starcraft2.com/features/terran/taurenmarine.xml)


holy... even the raygun looks the same
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Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 07 2011 05:50 GMT
#2054
On October 07 2011 05:43 Swimcito wrote:
to those wondering why they are adding another unit to terran.


So you basically want us terran to throw up $40 or something for basically the same game ??


THEY HAVE TO ADD SOMETHING, OR PEOPLE WONT BUY IT

As long as they add something and remove 2 somethings, its cool. Should be in the line with other 2 races.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Wyk
Profile Joined March 2011
314 Posts
October 07 2011 05:55 GMT
#2055
Just to go outside the box, im guessing it is a reaper with better thrusters, added shields for his dual weapons(that give bonus +damage to armored) and a flamethrower for pesky lings.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9582 Posts
October 07 2011 06:00 GMT
#2056
On October 07 2011 12:59 Pufftrees wrote:
It's obviously a mech healer, mark mah words!


That's my take on it as well. Some kind of utility/support mech.
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hobbidude
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada171 Posts
October 07 2011 06:12 GMT
#2057
Actually reminds me of the Egon Stetmann campaign unit, specially with the side shield like shapes and then combined with a scv to make a mech unit.

My best guess is a new version of the medic that replaces the scv repair ability as well as the medivac heal ablity into a unit kinda like a land based science vessel
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 07 2011 06:22 GMT
#2058
On October 07 2011 06:43 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 05:43 Swimcito wrote:
to those wondering why they are adding another unit to terran.


So you basically want us terran to throw up $40 or something for basically the same game ??


THEY HAVE TO ADD SOMETHING, OR PEOPLE WONT BUY IT


i'd be more happy to buy it if they took out some units and add back some old units (thor -> goliath, colossus -> reaver, ms -> arbitor, just to name some obvious ones. if it aint broke, dont fix it, right?).


They didnt fix and broke sc1, its still out there. Go play it if you like it more. Lurkers, reavers, arbitors, they all are waiting for you.

There is no point in having the same game 2 times.
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flashcool
Profile Joined November 2010
2 Posts
October 07 2011 06:22 GMT
#2059
is this bio or mech?
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 07 2011 06:24 GMT
#2060
On October 07 2011 15:22 flashcool wrote:
is this bio or mech?

The fact that it has wheels would imply that it's mech.
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