He told you to read all of the OP a few times.. You didn't.
He asked what you think is the hardest race to play at each level.

Either you interpreted as it has to be from experience, but the 600 probably interpreted it as what their thoughts were.

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

October 02 2011 15:22 GMT

#142

At plat level I can say Terran is ridiculously easier for me than toss. I mean i practice toss like crazy, and i still cant beat my toss friends, whom i rather easily roll over just by doing medivac drops over and over when i offrace T. I think thats because at plat its a LOT easier to do drops than defend drops, since plat players cant multitask.
I'd say terran is probably the hardest race to play really really well at the highest level though, since it seems terran just has the most shit to do after midgame.
The hardest race at lower levels is probably zerg, simply because the decision making under pressure as zerg is a bitch to get a grip on

TigerKarl

1757 Posts

October 02 2011 15:25 GMT

#143

I agree with the results here. Well, you can argue about Diamond & Master being terran. Everything else correct, no doubt.
As a Zerg specialist i want to emphasize that learning Zerg is extremely difficult, but there'll be a point when you can hold off almost every cheese. Then you make a huge jump, because in most low leagues players can't really do much, apart from cheesing and as Zerg you've got the macro aspect of the game in your blood.

Silidons

United States2813 Posts

October 02 2011 15:29 GMT

#144

not sure how zerg is hard in lower divisions, you only need to inject larvae and make mutalisks and you're bound to win the game with good harass. you can probably only use mutas till diamond.

Tofugrinder

Austria899 Posts

October 02 2011 15:34 GMT

#145

On October 03 2011 00:29 Silidons wrote:
not sure how zerg is hard in lower divisions, you only need to inject larvae and make mutalisks and you're bound to win the game with good harass. you can probably only use mutas till diamond.

the problem for low league zergs is either having 50 drones 0 units or the other way around. finding the necessary balance is the hard part in the lower leagues which causes many zergs problems

Tef

Sweden443 Posts

October 02 2011 15:35 GMT

#146

My prediction is that Zerg is the hardest race at top level and that 2 months from now we will see a surge in Zerg QQ again since Protoss/Terran will just run over Zerg in the GSL again. Then blizzard is going to buff Zerg against shinnanigans (read hydralisk) and the QQ cycle repeats since Ps will be furious again.

All is well.

althaz

Australia1001 Posts

October 02 2011 15:40 GMT

#147

On October 02 2011 23:48 Papulatus wrote:
People are still perpetuating the myth that protoss is hard to play at masters? I'm a zerg main, and after losing to tons of protoss on ladder, I queued up as protoss for a match and stomped a protoss who had played 600 ladder games this season in a 25 minute game. I then wrecked a zerg ez.

Zerg is by far the hardest race at all levels.

I play mostly Protoss but I have smashed people in ZvP and TvP (also won ZvZ and TvZ but not ZvT vs good players) that are ranked similarly to myself. Guess what that proves? The things I tried worked! Guess what it doesn't prove: anything else!

Terminal

United Kingdom2109 Posts

October 02 2011 15:45 GMT

#148

I'd have to agree that Terran is the hardest race higher up mechanics wise. Obviously Korean pros excel at that due to their sheer number of practice hours which that benefits most from so they make it look fairly easy.

Oreo7

United States1647 Posts

October 02 2011 15:45 GMT

#149

People answering this poll with anecdotal evidence and personal experience of "well this one time I offraced and won so clearly my race is hardest". The truth is that difficulty is subjective, some people will be better at drop multi tasking vrs queen inject etc. Silly poll with lots of self righteous answers.

Badfatpanda

United States9719 Posts

October 02 2011 15:50 GMT

#150

I think the vast majority of people who picked Protoss for the hardest race to play at a pro level have jumped on the imba train, which the OP said to disregard. Speaking as a former random player, I believe that Terran has the highest skill ceiling and need for sound strategic decision making at a high level, so I voted for T. Especially if you take mirrors into account ><

teddyoojo

Germany22369 Posts

October 02 2011 15:52 GMT

#151

the grandmaster and pro thing is just wrong. with those results the poll shouldve been "koreans". otherwise, just wrong

ReaperX

Hong Kong1758 Posts

October 02 2011 15:53 GMT

#152

I'm liking the Master/GM level.

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

October 02 2011 15:53 GMT

#153

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ReaperX

Hong Kong1758 Posts

October 02 2011 15:53 GMT

#154

On October 03 2011 00:50 Badfatpanda wrote:
I think the vast majority of people who picked Protoss for the hardest race to play at a pro level have jumped on the imba train, which the OP said to disregard. Speaking as a former random player, I believe that Terran has the highest skill ceiling and need for sound strategic decision making at a high level, so I voted for T. Especially if you take mirrors into account ><

Yeah but those strategies could be OP :D

JcGuiao

Canada56 Posts

October 02 2011 16:00 GMT

#155

On October 03 2011 00:40 althaz wrote:

Show nested quote +

I agree.

I've beaten a top 8 masters offracing as zerg with a roach baneling bust, that must mean zerg is easy peezy.
/sarcasm

It's always Protoss players that say Terran is easiest to play when offracing. I find that really funny since I've beaten a Protoss offracing as Terran with me offracing as Protoss (and i didn't even know what I was doing, I just made collosus and blink stalkers most of the games) Beat him 4 games in a row and he blocked me after I won the 4th game (2 base carrier rush vs mass maruader) T.T. Those games don't prove anything. I did the dumbest strats and they worked, but against competent Terrans, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have worked.

secretary bird

447 Posts

October 02 2011 16:05 GMT

#156

Are we pretending a low level Zerg will actually try to go for a macro game, read his opponent, hit all his injects and spread his creep? Of course thats too hard without decent apm and game knowledge. However if you just use 8 pool, RR , 2 base baneling and build macro hatches and forget about creep like the gold players i know its much easier. Also you dont need a lot of micro with Zerg until masters so that helps.

For diamond and masters I would say terran is the hardest based on my own experiments but again it depends on how you play the game and your personal weaknesses.

At the highest level we all know Protoss isnt doing so well in Korea. Dont really know the statistics for all GM and pro players so I'll go with that.

devPLEASE

Kenya605 Posts

October 02 2011 16:05 GMT

#157

I can tell you the easiest race to play...

User was temp banned for this post.

iKlutz

United Kingdom42 Posts

October 02 2011 16:21 GMT

#158

I think we should distinguish between which race is hardest to play and which race is hardest to win with. The "win with" parts brings balance in to it a bit so for grandmaster i'd probably vote protoss as hardest to win with but i think either zerg or terran is actually harder to play if that makes any sense.

shifty

United States280 Posts

October 02 2011 16:22 GMT

#159

It goes Zerg, Zerg, Terran, Protoss. Protoss is the easiest race to play up to top masters / GM

Mainly because of how powerful their units are.

DiaBoLuS

Germany1638 Posts

October 02 2011 16:28 GMT

#160

since every level below grandmaster/pro can be owned with either 3 rax, marine+scv | 6pool / banelingbust | 4 gate, its completely irrelevant how much "skill" is needed imo.

on the highest level, every race is pretty much equally hard to master.